OLED_Gamer
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So all the white hetero people who do the same get a pass?
Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event
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Could be an accelerationist too. A lot of these shooters have had contradictory motives.
DownLikeBCPowder
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Why do you say it's AI?
Only if you overwhelmingly close your eyes and ears to any kind of violent, aggressive rhetoric that's not coming from the left.
Right now, we don't even know the shooter's motives. People are guessing, but the fact the person hasn't been arrested yet is worrying.
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Senua
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Yea not my bag, didn't deserve to die though
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
"_________ people lost the argument of being normal when one of them walked into a school and shot a bunch of kids."
Which groups haven't done that yet? We'll have to listen to them in the next argument I guess.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Senua
Member
Yea that comment is shite. Imagine a world where we didn't demonise an entire group based off a small minorities actions
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
This. I think rather focusing so much on one side or the other, investigations should be broader.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Let's not do this please. No one person or even multiple persons represents an entire community of people. We have a trans poster here named Ailynn who is beloved to us and the sweetest person. She hasn't been around in a while, but most people are not monsters of any demographic.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Could also be an unhinged Kaczynski type who is just a total nutjob. This actually isn't uncommon with these types of crimes. There might still be some political motive underneath it, but with those guys it's clear they are just absolutely off their rocker. Like that guy who tried to kill Trump at Mara Lago was a total nut case.
Jinzo Prime
Gold Member
Sounds like he would have liked to debate you about the topic. Too bad he got killed for having his own opinion before that could happen. How about we do away with the notion that words=violence, and maybe we could go back to having a civilized society.
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P:axMagellanic
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He was about as centre right of a Conservative that you could get. Tens of, if not hundreds of millions of people share his views in the country. The gloating and venom dripping from their lips says they'll probably be happy to see everyone in that crowd dead alongside him.
'hate speech' is about as fucking nebulous a concept as you can get and rife for abuse by bad actors and the courts.
Also, stop winding up the Americans. The second amendment is as ingrained in their culture as apple pie, big tits and ugly cars. They don't give a fuck what we think and nor should they.
violence
Member
I kinda had that feeling too. I wonder if it's enhanced in someway.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Objectively they were the cause of some specific shootings, where their mental disease was also clearly connected with their reasoning & belief system behind the killing. So yes, every single counselor, doctor, etc who signed off on pushing their confusion further or getting them "affirming" chemicals or treatments should be held responsible for the deaths.
Also, the violence of trans activists in the online space exceeds nearly every other group. I can bring receipts if you'd like. Many, many, many accounts across a ton of platforms calling to kill "terfs" in grotesque ways. A movement that is far outside the pale of what is acceptable.
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Draugoth
Gold Member
For some reason the composition looks very weird reminds of Gemini 2.5 generated videos.
Been fooled so many times, so every time I watch a video I'm like this:
near
Gold Member
He had an opinion. He openly debated people on his views. I've watched a lot of his debates, and nothing he has ever said has warranted his assassination. A lot of these takes I'm reading on Era, X, and Bluesky are abhorrent. Do you also want to celebrate his death just because you didn't agree with his opinions?
12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
It looks AI because the way he talks is completely soulless, just reading a teleprompter. I Know he said he doesn't like to talk about his assassination though
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DrFigs
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what a fucking clown. maybe if it came from literally anyone else.
i feel bad charlie kirk was killed. i don't believe in his bullshit political beliefs.
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DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I don't like Trump's messaging at all. He always does this shit. In times of grief and turmoil he starts attacking people than trying to bring others together. He knows nothing about unity and is always about going after his opponents. And it's incredibly irresponsible when we don't even know the motive to go after "the left" as if its a monolith. Some leadership please.
Kacho
Gold Member
Finally a fresh take
He wasn't against what happened to him.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Trump just made it illegal to burn the American flag. Someone that Charlie Kirk advocated for. That's not an attack on the freedom of speech? He just had law enforcement shut down a 44 year old peace vigil at the capitol. Took 2.2 billion away from Harvard because the campus had Pro Palestine protestors. Blocked the associated press from white house press briefings. Charlie Kirk used Turning point to threaten professors who he thought were spreading "left wing propaganda". Wanted to create laws against Drag shows. Wanted lgbtq books taken out of schools. Don't try to paint him as some kind of hero of the first amendment.
FalconPunch
Member
Please stop this nonsense. That's a very big lie. 2 democratic lawmakers from Minnesota were killed. I didn't see you posting about it.
All that is happening now is a as a result of bad leadership. When laws aren't upheld, when judges ignore laws and precedents and invent new interpretations, people get annoyed. When people get annoyed, they take matters into their own hands.
This stuff started after Mitt Romney and Obama. Those were the last two candidates who showed respect to each other. You can disagree with people and still work together.
I went to resetera and some people were celebrating it. Absolutely disgusting and fucked up. Then I come here and see people trying to spin it as a one sided thing.
It's not. The country is absolutely poisoned with way too many echo chambers. After all this time, people have not learned the to fear the pendulum. When a party wins in the states, they do stupid shit by ignoring everyone else but their base. This causes aggressive pendulum swings in the other direction when the other party gets into power.
It'll tear the country apart. I'm telling you, if the repubs keep blatantly ignoring laws and operating with very clear corruption, a lot more political leaders are going to find out.
Anyway, US is done. It was done when people started ghosting family members because of political views.
dope4goldrope
Member
It's not about unseeing the truth. Plato was a tragic poet and his dialogues should always be seen with that influence, right? Presenting dialogues under the guise of actual conversations, weaving historical fact with fiction, etc. — it's all to communicate elaborate concepts and ideas to the reader. The idea of stoic hermeneutics is thousands of years old but modern men just don't encounter it enough to have a proper model that accounts for it.
Lokaum D+
Member
having bad takes is motive to be killed ?
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DrFigs
Member
he's just incapable of unity
Jinzo Prime
Gold Member
I have to work with people every day that are far to the right of Charlie Kirk. Mood at work right now is deathly.
I think this is a watershed moment. Jeff Grub and his ilk have no idea, man.
calico
Member
What do you think the 'unfortunately' part implies?
He wasn't against what happened to him.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
All he did was be black in office. He didn't set anything back. His tenure just showed that racists still existed.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Literally what they did to Elon Musk
Literally what they do to Trump every single day
ThatOneGrunt
Member
I never said that. I'm also not the person that said "he's one of the good ones" like the person I was commenting on did. He regularly said horrible, discriminatory things. It's shocking that anyone would think otherwise.
violence
Member
Let's ban spoons so we have fewer fat people.
He wasn't against what happened to him.
near
Gold Member
Context to the headline, which you'd clearly rather not share, to support your retarded take:
He wasn't against what happened to him.
LordOfChaos
Member
I take it this was just a regular crazy person, not like there's a shortage of those around. More charitably maybe he was pissed off and running on adrenaline
So is the rooftop shooter in custody yet, or no?
Wasn't a fan of Charlie, but no one should be shot for literally having open discourse where anyone can challenge him verbally. His 1 year old son and 3 year old daughter don't deserve this, not that the untimely death of a 31 year old man has to ever be framed in relation to what they did for other people to be tragic in itself
Grildon Tundy
Member
Is that a high view-to-like ratio, or...?
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Someone else came into custody, but they have since been released also. Presently no one in custody.
WoeIsMe
Neo Member
Being for guns to be able to defend one self and family equals being for gun violence, murder and death? Come on people... atleast think before typing.
He wasn't against what happened to him.
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LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Apparently a lot of people resonate. His highest viewed video has 58k likes.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
People are more than a collection of their views. For one, I'm sure he had plenty of kind and thoughtful views as well. Most people do. I was not a fan of his views on many topics either, but from all accounts of those who knew him he was a really nice guy and that's good enough for me. I've known people who used to be white supremacists and have since changed and are the nicest people you'll ever meet. And even in their bigotry they had love in their heart somewhere. The dude was young, people are constantly evolving.
I always see this when some controversial figure dies and people try to downplay any mourning by "This person believed X" and I really don't get why anyone gives a shit. People really need to turn the activism dials in their brains off every once in a while and just be a raw human being sometimes.
I always see this when some controversial figure dies and people try to downplay any mourning by "This person believed X" and I really don't get why anyone gives a shit. People really need to turn the activism dials in their brains off every once in a while and just be a raw human being sometimes.
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Unknown Soldier
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Wait so the killer is still on the loose?
calico
Member
This one was quite telling because it was so obviously fabricated, the people looking at it knew it was fabricated, and they acted as though it was real anyway. They were literally just waiting for someone to tell them what they wanted to hear and give them permission to behave that way.
They didn't care one bit that most of the people they were attacking were fellow leftists, they just wanted an excuse to be violent and feel justified doing it.
rm082e
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Avid Reading Horse
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It's not. Flag burning (of your own flag) is vaguely under a concept of "freedom of expression" which isn't actually a thing referenced in the First Amendment. And as for the other shit, normies still don't want their kids exposed to weirdo fetishes in school so stop trying to make them.
Madflavor
Member
I feel like there's a good chance the shooter might actually get away with it. Would love to be proven wrong, but it's not looking good. Whoever killed Charlie really seemed to know what they were doing. Using a high powered rifle, a single kill shot right in the juggular from 200 yards aways, totally disappeared afterward. Seems to have kept a low profile too, because aside from some iphone footage of a figure on a rooftop from a far away distance, there's no close up footage from any other camera. And this happened like 7-8 hours ago? If that guy had an escape plan and a place to lie low for awhile, he's probably already there.
In and out like a ghost.
In and out like a ghost.
FalconPunch
Member
Yea that's what happens when you fill your administration with incompetent people. Imagine that the FBI embarrassed itself by having the wrong guy, prematurely announcing they had the shooter in custody, now they have to resort to a tips line after embarrassing themselves.
If the shooter is careful, he could get away with it. It sucks really that Charlie died. I don't know the dude all that well but no one should get assassinated just for exercising your first amendment rights.