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[Ursus Vindicant]

I dont even have the words at this point. What a vile untrue thing to say at such a time.

 

[12Goblins]

I hate to nit pick, but Aristotle definitely did not say that lol

He says virtue is the mean between two extremes. Courage is virtuous because the other extremes are cowardice and recklessness.

My boy Aristotle rolling in his grave with that remark

 

[YCoCg]

 

[IFireflyl]

I hate to nit pick, but Aristotle definitely did not say that lol

He says virtue is the mean between two extremes. Courage is virtuous because the other extremes are cowardice and recklessness.

My boy Aristotle rolling in his grave with that remark

Technically, Aristotle said courage is the mother of all virtues. Which means that his point would still stand.

Courage is the mother of all virtues because without it, you cannot consistently perform the others.
-Aristotle

 

[Vestal]

JFC.. Seriously!?!?

 

[Kacho]

 

[Lokaum D+]

If that purple dogshit website shuts down, lets hope they don't flood this one

they wouldn't stand a day over here, it would be too much harmful words for them to read, i mean, those who know how to read.

 

[Topher]

Technically, Aristotle said courage is the mother of all virtues. Which means that his point would still stand.

Courage is the mother of all virtues because without it, you cannot consistently perform the others.
-Aristotle

Came to say this as well. He wasn't quoting directly, but the gist was exactly the same.

 

[th4tguy]

It's as crazy as the images of the guy they arrested at first, being spread around stating he was the killer.
That guy is in serious danger from the missinformation being spread.
Spreading misinfo about the motive of the killer, especially what was claimed, is only going to incite unjustified anger.

 

[Topher]

It's as crazy as the images of the guy they arrested at first, being spread around stating he was the killer.
That guy is in serious danger from the missinformation being spread.
Spreading misinfo about the motive of the killer, especially what was claimed, is only going to incite unjustified anger.

Wasn't the first, old guy claiming to be the shooter and then they realized he wasn't? I saw video of them escorting him out of the area and he was shouting "shoot me! shoot me!"

There is some weird shit going on with this.

 

[VaultBoy101]

Her response seems completely respectful?

No you're wrong, she must be canceled and fired immediately. But also we must respect the First Amendment! when I agree with what's being said

 

[MarV0]

I've got the impression that many if not all of Charlie Kirk's hot takes are cherry picked. Kirk makes an explosive statement that he then explains and puts in a different light, but the cherry picked quote never provides the original/additional context. For example his statement that the civil rights act of 1964 was a mistake. Seems pretty crazy, but Kirk was more or less rephrasing Thomas Sowell's points that blacks were generally worse off since the 1960 compared to previous generations.

That's why I called him a perfectly normal moderate.

I knew these quotes were completely out of context, cherry picked from more than a decade of public speaking and that is all they could gather?

Total nothing burger. The guy was a class act, a family man of the highest integrity.

 

[p_xavier]

Her response seems completely respectful?

Rachel is known as a far-left woke lunatic in Canada.

 

[Signalis]

If we keep heading down this road, we won't need enemies abroad—we'll destroy ourselves from within.

That's how the Roman Empire crumbled.

 

[Kacho]

 

[Scary_Larry]

Checks out with Kash Patel's FBI. There was a reason why seasoned agents and former heads of the FBI clearly stated how unqualified he was for the job and it's easy to see that now in plain view. Not a good idea to politicize the FBI.

They're still early in the process of investigating this, but it seems like they're just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks so far. The ineptitude is glaring.

 

[12Goblins]

Technically, Aristotle said courage is the mother of all virtues. Which means that his point would still stand.

Courage is the mother of all virtues because without it, you cannot consistently perform the others.
-Aristotle

Hm, can you source that?

edit: I asked scholarGPT

Close enough, I guess. I will allow it.

 

[Roni]

Guess what else happened yesterday? The Republicans blocked the Senate from releasing the files.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/10/politics/epstein-files-schumer-vote

At every turn this case is more about the outrage it generates than any actual motive from the killer.

 

[IFireflyl]

Hm, can you source that?

Uh, yeah... Have you never used Google before?

https://www.google.com/search?q="Co...SBwCgBwCyBwC4BwDCBwDIBwA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

[FullMetalx117]

Wasn't the first, old guy claiming to be the shooter and then they realized he wasn't? I saw video of them escorting him out of the area and he was shouting "shoot me! shoot me!"

There is some weird shit going on with this.

Supposedly that old man is a well known nuisance to law enforcement in utah (from what I gathered from conference yesterday), he's always trolling supposedly. Although clearly it was not the time and place this time

 

[MarV0]

That's how the Roman Empire crumbled.

And just like the roman empire, the ancient greeks etc it all started with a few weak men trying to simp for some spinsters by giving them power that they should never yield (the vote).

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

No you're wrong, she must be canceled and fired immediately. But also we must respect the First Amendment! when I agree with what's being said

I am all for Freedom of Speech and the consequences that come with it

 

[jason10mm]

No you're wrong, she must be canceled and fired immediately. But also we must respect the First Amendment! when I agree with what's being said

You do realize the First Amendment applies to FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, right?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

A person can not just walk up to another person and say whatever verbal filth they want and be 'protected' under the 1st. Nor can an employee at a company expect to be able to say any kind of verbal filth they want and remain employed. Or "FIRE" in a crowded theater. Or "I'm gonna kill you all!" to a crowded office. On and on.

Come on man, use common sense. No one is saying to go beat up this Gilmore lady, or the Sucker Punch dev. But to see their views, as vile as they are (especially so soon after the event), and then see their companies NOT react, does imply the company condones the opinion. Therefore I, as a consumer, can then CHOOSE to NOT purchase their product, in an exercise of the free market capitalism structure we operate under. There is no logically fallacy or contradiction in this process because I am not FORCED to buy their stuff so I can apply whatever criteria I want to not buy.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

When your entire schtick is deep rooted in some very fine grained, sophisticated hypocrisy, it's just hard to take seriously. Just trying to be real.

The problem is that there's 10,000 hours of Charlie Kirk talking on YouTube. The tribal left ignore 99% of it because most of what he says is reasonable.

They collect his 1% worst takes, pour gas on it by removing context and adding their own, and use that mixture to paint him as a new Hitler.

Then they feed the manufactured Hitler to a population that likely suffers from a higher rate of mental illness via echo chambers like Bluesky, Reddit and Resetera. Here you foment hatred towards the manufactured concept long enough and eventually one of these tragedies happen. It's a production line.

 

[jason10mm]

Hm, can you source that?

edit: I asked scholarGPT

Close enough, I guess. I will allow it.

Well, Aristotle never said ANYTHING in english, so unless you quote him in the original Klingon, you are wrong

 

[FullMetalx117]

The problem is that there's 10,000 hours of Charlie Kirk talking on YouTube. The tribal left ignore 99% of it because most of what he says is reasonable.

They collect his 1% worst takes, pour gas on it by removing context and adding their own, and use that mixture to paint him as a new Hitler.

Then they feed the manufactured Hitler to a population that likely suffers from a higher rate of mental illness via echo chambers like Bluesky, Reddit and Resetera. Here you foment hatred towards the manufactured concept long enough and eventually one of these tragedies happen. It's a production line.

The thing is, i see no difference in strategy from the tribal right either. Its the tactical thing to do in the social media age

 

[jason10mm]

The problem is that there's 10,000 hours of Charlie Kirk talking on YouTube. The tribal left ignore 99% of it because most of what he says is reasonable.

They collect his 1% worst takes, pour gas on it by removing context and adding their own, and use that mixture to paint him as a new Hitler.

Then they feed the manufactured Hitler to a population that likely suffers from a higher rate of mental illness via echo chambers like Bluesky, Reddit and Resetera. Here you foment hatred towards the manufactured concept long enough and eventually one of these tragedies happen. It's a production line.

This is why we will have "AI Charlie Kirk" and "AI Joe Rogan" running things in the future, they just have an enormous body of work to draw from. Better than writing books, better than reams of letters. And unlike radio, not sure if there are many tapes of Rush Limbaugh floating around out there.

 

[poppabk]

Rachel is known as a far-left woke lunatic in Canada.

Sure - but the site is supposedly to hold people accountable for saying bad shit in respect to the assasination (and scroll down from her post and you will some evil shit), not a site to use the assassination to hate on people on the left no matter what they said.

 

[12Goblins]

Uh, yeah... Have you never used Google before?

https://www.google.com/search?q="Courage+is+the+mother+of+all+virtues+because+without+it,+you+cannot+consistently+perform+the+others."&sca_esv=1350d2b39f18322d&sxsrf=AE3TifM3UFvW6lVwhe_4Ygvkzvnh5xX12Q:1757616944081&ei=MBvDaKHTBPGtmtkP1orRuQw&ved=0ahUKEwihq-mssdGPAxXxliYFHVZFNMcQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq="Courage+is+the+mother+of+all+virtues+because+without+it,+you+cannot+consistently+perform+the+others."&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiZiJDb3VyYWdlIGlzIHRoZSBtb3RoZXIgb2YgYWxsIHZpcnR1ZXMgYmVjYXVzZSB3aXRob3V0IGl0LCB5b3UgY2Fubm90IGNvbnNpc3RlbnRseSBwZXJmb3JtIHRoZSBvdGhlcnMuIkgAUABYAHAAeAGQAQCYAQCgAQCqAQC4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCSBwCgBwCyBwC4BwDCBwDIBwA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

alright bro I used google

Aristotle — "Courage is the mother of all virtues because without it, you cannot consistently perform the others."
Source: A-Zquotes.com / Goodreads.com

 

[Musashipan]

His last word was "violence"

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

The thing is, i see no difference in strategy from the tribal right either. Its the tactical thing to do in the social media age

You're right. The right does it too.

The difference is that there's elevated rates of mental illness in the left.

 

[12Goblins]

Kinda sad, especially since Kirk said he enjoyed the episode

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[The_Mike]

Remember.

These people did not only cheer over the death of charlie kirk.

They want you dead as well.
And they would cheer equally

 

[12Goblins]

Remember.

These people did not only cheer over the death of charlie kirk.

They want you dead as well.
And they would cheer equally

stop spreading toxic shit, nobody wants you dead.

 

[gradient]

Damn, that's a good comment from Arnold.

Social media does indeed make more money from outrage and division - it produces more engagement and clicks, so it's in their interest to promote and encourage it. Worth remembering.

 

[DragoonKain]

Whenever a tragedy occurs, the word I want to see least is "they"

I find it so irritating. There is no they. Especially in a vague and general sense.

 

[Kacho]

There have been so many firings over this.

 

[Aesius]

stop spreading toxic shit, nobody wants you dead.

I'm sure you would have said no one wants Charlie Kirk dead ~22 hours ago. Fact is, it's been made abundantly clear that TONS of people wanted Charlie Kirk dead. You don't celebrate someone's death if you didn't want them dead. So where do you draw the line between "influential conservative voice" and "conservative voter?"

 

[jason10mm]

Damn, that's a good comment from Arnold.

Social media does indeed make more money from outrage and division - it produces more engagement and clicks, so it's in their interest to promote and encourage it. Worth remembering.

Some folks just put up a pic of Charlie with RIP in it. No text, no commentary. Are they happy he is dead, or are they sad? Are they just marking the event? Either way, it's how everyone should approach it. No virtue signaling, no pandering to your "base", either say something simple/neutral or just STFU.

Had he died in a car accident or blew out an aneurysm then -maybe- some of the more crass jokes could fly. But to have someone murdered in the middle of public discourse, the very foundation of our society.....that's so far beyond the line even the more cold hearted and ruthless hater of Kirk's should have had their spidey-sense tingling as they reached for their phone to gloat. Hell, I bet a fair number of lefty types had their phones physically grabbed out of their little paws by their PR managers ("No, NO! Bad Dog!) to prevent them from making an odious comment and today they should give them all raises for saving them from themselves.

 

[midnightAI]

Kinda sad, especially since Kirk said he enjoyed the episode

Agreed, this was a brilliant episode, no need to pull it (well maybe if Kirk was upset about the episode in the past, but he wasn't). Still, if they think its best and its a respectful thing to do then who am I to question that.

 

[GateofD]

Flags at half mast today. For Charlie or 9/11. Maybe both.

 

[Methos#1975]

A deranged feral human on Bluesky threatened to put a bullet in the back of my head simply for saying that excuting people for their opinions and being ok with that is psychotic behavior. Instead of debating my point, he made it instead. These people truly are nuts.

 

[Methos#1975]

I'm sure you would have said no one wants Charlie Kirk dead ~22 hours ago. Fact is, it's been made abundantly clear that TONS of people wanted Charlie Kirk dead. You don't celebrate someone's death if you didn't want them dead. So where do you draw the line between "influential conservative voice" and "conservative voter?"

See above. The same nut that threatened me has made post in the past stating that all Trump voters need to be shot. So they really do not see a difference at all.

 

[th4tguy]

All of these shared social media experiences just proves to me how much they profit off of setting up horrible people to be the most heard voices. It sets up volatile conversations which is seen as strong engagement. Stronger engagement is more potential eyes on ads which is more money made.

 

[Jaybe]

From the NY Times about two hours ago. Hopefully they are making progress in the search.

A news conference with the F.B.I. and Utah police officials was just canceled, about 20 minutes after it had been scheduled, because of "rapid developments" in the investigation, according to Hillary Koellner, a spokeswoman for the Utah Department of Public Safety. She said the news conference would be held later today.

 

[12Goblins]

I'm sure you would have said no one wants Charlie Kirk dead ~22 hours ago. Fact is, it's been made abundantly clear that TONS of people wanted Charlie Kirk dead. You don't celebrate someone's death if you didn't want them dead. So where do you draw the line between "influential conservative voice" and "conservative voter?"

Nobody wanted him killed, especially in the horrifying gruesome way that it played out. I think what we're seeing is just s an emotional release; People feel some relief and a sense cosmic justice, namely him falling victim to the same system he's been fighting to defend, namely gun violence. Like YCoCg said, it would be analogous to a prominent liberal fighting for open borders or something like that for Years and gaining ground and suddenly falling victim to immigrant violence. Conservatives would have a field day, gleefully rubbing it in everyone's face, "See!?? I told you! This is what happens" feel validated, circle jerk, and zero tears would be shed because they would perceive the US as now being in a better place. Did they want him to die from the hands of an illegal violence? No, That's why they were fighting against open borders in the first place! Was it worth it to help their cause? ....

At the end of the day, most people don't even know who he is, or care, social media just amplifies extremes and people just mindlessly jump on to what's trending.

My 2 cents

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

stop spreading toxic shit, nobody wants you dead.

"Baby, I don't like hitting you but you make me so angry sometimes!"

 

[AutomaticPrince]

There have been so many firings over this.

The ban list is piling up at solid pace too

 

[JoduanER2]

stop spreading toxic shit, nobody wants you dead.

hes not wrong. Just go to the purple forum and read the comments regarding charlie kirk's death, they most certainly want people that think like charlie kirk dead.