Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

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The Biden regime was working hand in glove with the social media platforms to silence views and deplatform people it didn't agree with. It's odd to hear how much the left suddenly cares about free speech now they are no longer in a position to determine which speech is allowed and which isn't.
 
The Biden regime was working hand in glove with the social media platforms to silence views and deplatform people it didn't agree with. It's odd to hear how much the left suddenly cares about free speech now they are no longer in a position to determine which speech is allowed and which isn't.
We all know the left's attitude to free speech - you can see it play out every day at places like Reddit and Resetera. They are, obviously, gigantic hypocrites.
 
Do we have any excuse for Kash Patel jumping the gun saying "we got him" other than him being a wannabe tacticool goober?
I blame his ai generated artwork
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So we're okay with the FCC publicly threatening Jimmy Kimmel before his show was canceled?

We're okay with that kind of government overreach?

Let the show die on its own from reduced viewership.

This is not right wing. This is left wing tactics.

Charlie Kirk is rolling in his grave right now.
 
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Do we have any excuse for Kash Patel jumping the gun saying "we got him" other than him being a wannabe tacticool goober?
Idk if it's an excuse, but the explanation is probably that the local cops had arrested someone at the scene who was confessing to doing it and that is probably the information he received.

He didn't anticipate an 'I'm Spartacus' / decoy situation, but perhaps he should have with how widely the assassination has been supported by the left.
 
I'm really confused. There A LOT of talks how Kirk was a nazi, racist and so on. I saw some of his vids earlier, they were maybe harsh, but there was nothing nazi/racist. Today I tried to ask questions on Reddit to people who call him like that and.. get a portion of hate without examples. There were several quotes that were labeled as racist, but I searched for context and in reality they were anti-DEI. I saw some people here mentioned his hateful speeches - can these people point me in the direction where they think he was a racist or something like that?
Even in the video above from lconhoof the top comment is about "he was despised black folks". But he had black and gay friends (and on Reddit everyone says "it means nothing"). So, I'm struggled to understand where this narrative comes from.
Right now it looks like leftists are in some echo chamber, which is really sad - I was mostly pro-left, but the state of world politics right now is so fucked that it's hard to feel sympathetic towards anyone.
I've gone thru some of his videos to examine for myself. Because to be honest I had no idea who Charlie Kirk was until a few days ago. He says some definitely… sus things while at the same time remaining calm and nice about it to people in the crowd.

considering the temperature of things, I ain't gonna say much here. He had opinions, and unfortunately they got him killed. I question the validity of lowering our flag for him, the nature of calling him a hero, how quickly the Epstein bill got squashed after this, government overreach poking its head out, and just how fast the ball seems to be rolling here.

It is an awful thing that happened to the man, and I don't feel this is the right time to go and pick apart everything he has said.
 
The Biden regime was working hand in glove with the social media platforms to silence views and deplatform people it didn't agree with. It's odd to hear how much the left suddenly cares about free speech now they are no longer in a position to determine which speech is allowed and which isn't.
Either the government should be able to control the content of media platforms to suit its own agenda, or it shouldn't. You can accuse someone of hypocrisy but you still need to come to a consistent position yourself.
 
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BBC Pidgin has you covered with the Robinson x lover text messages.


Robinson: drop wetin you dey do, look under my keyboard.
[Wen di roommate look under di keyboard, one note dey dia wey allegedly read: "I don get di opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I go take am."]
Roommate: "What?????????????? You dey joke, right????
Robinson: I still dey ok my love, but I dey stuck for Orem for sometimes. E no go take long, until I reach house, but I need to pick my riffle. To be honest I bin dey hope to keep dis secret till I die of old age. I dey sorry to involve you.
Roommate: No be you do am right????
Robinson: Na me, I dey sorry
Roommate: I tink say dem don catch di pesin?
Robinson: no, dem grab one crazy old dude, dem later interrogate pesin wey wear same cloth like my own. I don plan to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly afta, but dem don shutdown di area. E dey quiet, almost enough to get out, but e get one car wey still dey dia
Roommate: Why?
Robinson: Why I do am?
Roommate: Yeah
Robinson: I don get enough of im hatred. E get some hate wey you no fit just quiet dey look
Robinson: If I fit grab my rifle and nobody see me, area clear be dat wit no evidence. I go try retrieve am again, hopefully dem go don comot for dia. I neva see say dem dey find am
Roommate: How long you don dey plan to do dis tin?
Robinson: a bit ova a week I believe. I fit get close to wia di riffle dey, but e get one police car wey dey parked close to wia e dey. I tink say dem don already clear dat spot, but I no wan risk am
Robinson: I wish say I don go back and carry am as soon as I enta my car.... I dey worried, I no know wetin my old man go do if I no bring back grandpa rifle ... I no know if e get serial number, but dem no go trace am to me. I dey worry about prints, I leave am for one bush, wia I change my dress. Time no dey to carry am... I get to leave am and hope say dem no go find prints. how I go take explain give my old man say I don lost di riffle....
Di only tin I drop na di riffle wey I wrap for inside towel...
remember how I bin dey write on di bullets? Di [coded] messages na mostly one big meme, if I see "e notice bulge uwu" on fox new I fit get stroke alright I go leave am, e really [expletive] suck.... judging from today I go say grandpa gun dey work well-well idk.. I tink e buy am for $2k scope;-;
Robinson: delete dis exchange
Robinson: my dad want fotos of di rifle ... e say grandpa wan know who get what, di feds don release foto of di gun
Robinson: since trump enta office [my dad] don turn pretty diehard maga.
Robinson: I go turn myself in willingly, one of my neighbours here na deputy for di sheriff.
Robinson: Na only you I dey worry about love
Roommate: Na me worry about you pass
Robinson: no follow media please. no grant any interview or make any comments.... if any police ask you question ask for lawyer and stay silent.

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Then dis wan na dem text wey dey, me I no think say I don see press conference wey we go dey read text wey, A) dey sweet mouth so tey, dey strong so tey, dey be like say dem dey put rope for neck so tey, but still, e dey touch heart sha, abi no be so?
 
While I can't stand any of these late night talk show hosts, nothing Kimmel said was wrong.
Except that part where he flat out lied about the killer's motivations to continue smearing the very people being targeted by political violence. Incredibly irresponsible for a major talk show host on TV. But then he was also celebrating the violence against Tesla a while back so no real surprise. People get so sucked into the culture war they completely lose their minds.

People like that should be free to spout off every night but they should do it in a place that suits their style of rhetoric - preferably in front of a live cam in their basement or something.
 
If anyone is wondering what the FCC chair said to preempt Kimmel getting canceled here is the quote:

This is a very, very serious issue right now for Disney. We can do this the easy way or the hard way," [FCC Chair] Carr said. "These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead."
"They have a license granted by us at the FCC, and that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest," Carr said.

Kimmel wasn't canceled for what he said.
 
Jimmy Kimmel's show should've been canceled as soon as it began on the basis that he's the most unfunny man alive.



He's just a mean-spirited SOB. And his audience is the worst, they would have laughed and cheered if he'd joked about Charlie Kirk like he did about Tucker Carlson.
 
See this is why people talk about both sides. Call out people for calling people 'facists' - immediately start calling people Marxists.
Except only one label is considered "evil" and being called a nazi or a fascists was a prime way to lose a job and stuff. Unlike a "Marxist" which is a term that has been whitewashed by academia and schools and politicians.

It is like terms a "cosplayer" and a "furry". Both of the groups are wearing costumes. But only one is a bunch of weirdos.
 
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So we're okay with the FCC publicly threatening Jimmy Kimmel before his show was canceled?

We're okay with that kind of government overreach?

Let the show die on its own from reduced viewership.

This is not right wing. This is left wing tactics.

Charlie Kirk is rolling in his grave right now.
On one hand, you want the government to not suppress "free speech" and all that entails.

On the other hand, the government and FCC has ALWAYS suppressed free speech by controlling the boundaries of what can and can't be done on TV due to content and age restrictions.

As horrible of a precedent it sets, it's also a message that flat out lying to the American public blatantly about a serious issue with massive social ramifications is too far and it has to be dealt with. Free speech laws are wishy washy in regards to nationally broadcasted tv controlled by the fcc. The government would be overstepping if they silenced him on social media or in the actual real world.

It sucks but it's not like they are doing this out of "pettiness" or something. They could've pressured South Park to be cancelled for their jokes recently but they don't. There is a difference between jokes and lies, especially if those lies serve to further divide and and stoke violence.
 


Super impressed by this speech from the kids. Someone already said it on here but I'm going to echo. I didn't know fuck all about the politics of my teachers in school, we did our school work and debated about the topics of the class. If any kids raised something of a political nature a teacher might ask them to explain their position.


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Damn it's fun seeing Kimmel get his comeuppance. Another guy who got totally ruined by TDS. These late night guys ruined the tradition of late night with their partisan hackery.

This isnt cancel culture by the way. A talk show host can't just go on TV and make up a total lie so that he can continue demonizing half the country, which is what helped cause the violence in the first place. It's totally unhinged behavior. His business partners finally had enough.

It's amusing that anybody would take Kimmel as some kind of bastion of virtue. We've all seen The Man Show. Carolla stayed true to himself (evolving with age and the times obviously) while Kimmel sold out to Hollywood to become a leftist propaganda mouthpiece.

I've seen so many comments from leftists saying how this violates his freedom of speech. These people are so dumb. Freedom of speech means you can't be criminally prosecuted for your speech, it's not something that protects you from being fired from your job if you say stupid shit that doesn't align with your employers values. (In this case just flat out lies). Anyway, I think these networks are looking for any excuse to cancel these late night talk shows because they cost the networks a fortune and the ratings are low. They're losing a lot of money.
 
It's amusing that anybody would take Kimmel as some kind of bastion of virtue. We've all seen The Man Show. Carolla stayed true to himself (evolving with age and the times obviously) while Kimmel sold out to Hollywood to become a leftist propaganda mouthpiece.

I've seen so many comments from leftists saying how this violates his freedom of speech. These people are so dumb. Freedom of speech means you can't be criminally prosecuted for your speech, it's not something that protects you from being fired from your job if you say stupid shit that doesn't align with your employers values. (In this case just flat out lies). Anyway, I think these networks are looking for any excuse to cancel these late night talk shows because they cost the networks a fortune and the ratings are low. They're losing a lot of money.
Don't the left like using the "freedom of speech, not freedom of consequences" shtick on people? Not that it's in reverse all of a sudden it's a big deal
 
When Kimmel deliberately lied on public TV about the shooter being a Trump supporter he should have been taken off the air until a full retraction. But it seems he was removed because a different broadcaster wants to have merger and look friendly towards the Trump administration, that's when this gets a bit iffy in my eyes.
 
It's not speculation, armed queers SLC is under investigation as per what congresswoman Paulina said. And the fact they erased their digital footprints, make it even more suspicious. Whether they're involved or not, we still have to wait

I hope the end result is that trans ideology branded as terrorism ideology
That would be too much, i bet the majority of trans people are chill and not bloody killers.

You only ear about the loud minority.

We had a trans member on gaf and she was the sweetest person on the forum.
 
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I went to the purple place to see their reactions about the Kimmel drama, and of course, not even an ounce of self awareness

Those people are lost. And I dont know how to fix them.

Some truly dark times ahead.
It's ironic coming from them, since they ban every dissenting opinion.
 


Before the usual suspects here try to alter reality and declare she was a MAGA right winger, here's some info:

It was from last year, it actually did happen, the person in question is a radical pro-Palestinian leftist and this was in regards to some measure about Palestine or whatever


In Bakersfield, she stepped to the podium and said:"I hope one day somebody brings the guillotine and kills all of you motherf*ers.""We'll see you at your house. We'll mu*der you."Now she's facing 21 felony charges. Trial set for November 10.This isn't a "wrong opinion" or "spicy speech."

This is threatening officials with death in a public chamber.

We have free speech in this country.

Holy shit. It says a lot that someone actually thought it was okay to say this to a room full of people they don't personally know ie. she's so lost in her internal delusions and rage that she felt it was appropriate to levy death threats to multiple people. Hopefully, she does get appropriately sentenced since she's clearly unstable.
 
That would be too much, i bet the majority of trans people are chill and not bloody killers.

You only ear about the loud minority.

We had a trans member on gaf and she was the sweetest person on the forum.
The thing is, I agree with you, same as left-wing people.

But what I am not seeing is a large call from the left or trans or whoever to 100% denounce those people and remove them from their movements.

And a politician putting out a soft "Violence is bad" statement is pathetic, these communities need to look hard inside of themselves and purge this evil publicly...

But in order to do that they need to accept responsibility for how bad it has gotten in order to move forward and none of them seem to want to do so besides maybe a very very tiny minority of voices.
 
The thing is, I agree with you, same as left-wing people.

But what I am not seeing is a large call from the left or trans or whoever to 100% denounce those people and remove them from their movements.

And a politician putting out a soft "Violence is bad" statement is pathetic, these communities need to look hard inside of themselves and purge this evil publicly...

But in order to do that they need to accept responsibility for how bad it has gotten in order to move forward and none of them seem to want to do so besides maybe a very very tiny minority of voices.
I think chill trans, gay and lesbians give 2 fucks and half about the lgbtq movement or what they do.

Normal people don't identify their whole persona based on what they like to fuck, they have too much to worry in real life to care about a dumb movement that they were never officially part of.

Well adjusted people don't care about dumb circles.

So no, i don't expect the non-extremist gay and trans to call out anyone because they weren't involved to begin with, it's not their job, most of them want to live a peaceful life.
 
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'She wore a short skirt, and unfortunately it got her raped.'

Yep, seen multiple people trotting out that old chestnut in a transparent attempt to justify political violence/murder. It's disappointing to see victim blaming in any form, though, whether it's aimed at women or men.
 
BBC Pidgin
You have no idea how much I despise the BBC.

I haven't paid for a licence for five years and I dread the day they knock on my door with the goons they employ

..Not for my sake though. I guess the day it happens will be a true test of the free speech laws we're 'supposed' to have here.
 
He says some definitely… sus things
That's racist, not anti-dei? Can you send me the videos (of a full conversation, not a quotes) in DM if you don't want to post it here?

how quickly the Epstein bill got squashed after this
After this? I hear it every time there's a big newsworthy event.

and I don't feel this is the right time to go and pick apart everything he has said.
I think this is THE time.
 
I think chill trans, gay and lesbians give 2 fucks and half about the lgbtq movement or what they do.

Normal people don't identify their whole persona based on what they like to fuck, they have too much to worry in real life to care about a dumb movement that they were never officially part of.

Well adjusted people don't care about dumb circles.

So no, i don't expect the non-extremist gay and trans to call out anyone because they weren't involved to begin with.
again though, i agree...

but they all kind of need to now, because its starting to become an inflection point where things are gonna happen one way or another.

The last thing we need is a regression to the days when gay people weren't allowed in public because some nut jobs and far-left lunatics wanted an insane Marxist revolution.

The moderates and conservatives have been trying to call out the insanity for a while but they've been shut down for quite some time.

I just find it strange that for the 100s of thousands of TikTok videos promoting and celebrating the idea of assassinating the US president, there are only right-wing media personalities on like some shit site like Rumble saying anything about it.

like CNN and NBC and whoever should be covering those things, Left-wing leaders should be actively calling vile and putrid, LGTB members should be calling them out on socials...

But we'll see how it all plays out ,i guess.
 
On the one hand Kimmel is basically a comedian, on the other he was spreading misinformation. Bold move to suspend the show.
 
again though, i agree...

but they all kind of need to now, because its starting to become an inflection point where things are gonna happen one way or another.

The last thing we need is a regression to the days when gay people weren't allowed in public because some nut jobs and far-left lunatics wanted an insane Marxist revolution.

The moderates and conservatives have been trying to call out the insanity for a while but they've been shut down for quite some time.

I just find it strange that for the 100s of thousands of TikTok videos promoting and celebrating the idea of assassinating the US president, there are only right-wing media personalities on like some shit site like Rumble saying anything about it.

like CNN and NBC and whoever should be covering those things, Left-wing leaders should be actively calling vile and putrid, LGTB members should be calling them out on socials...

But we'll see how it all plays out ,i guess.


Being gay or trans should not force anyone who want to live a chill life to call out a group of extremists, it doesn't work that way.

It's not normal people job to contain extremist groups, that's the governement job, people have to endure enough crap in their lives without the need of being political warriors just because they like to fuck asses instead of pussies.


Sorry we are never gonna agree on this because it sound like a badly veiled blackmail:

You gay and trans better fix your extremist groups or we are gonna return to dark times when you can't even walk in the streets without being insulted.


This is the government job ffs, normal people should not waste a second of their life addressing extremist groups they were never part of to begin with, especially when these groups are violent and can ruin your life or harass you.

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That would be too much, i bet the majority of trans people are chill and not bloody killers.

You only ear about the loud minority.

We had a trans member on gaf and she was the sweetest person on the forum.

this majority of trans, do they enforce their pronouns on us? Do they insist on using the opposite sex spaces; bathrooms/changing rooms, etc?

I was fine with trans people before and probably majority of us, it was live and let live before. Only recent years they started insist on those things, they crossed the lane where they don't belong
 
this majority of trans, do they enforce their pronouns on us? Do they insist on using the opposite sex spaces; bathrooms/changing rooms, etc?
Well, no. That's the point.

I was fine with trans people before and probably majority of us, it was live and let live before. Only recent years they started insist on those things, they crossed the lane where they don't belong
You're missing the point again.
 
this majority of trans, do they enforce their pronouns on us? Do they insist on using the opposite sex spaces; bathrooms/changing rooms, etc?

I was fine with trans people before and probably majority of us, it was live and let live before. Only recent years they started insist on those things, they crossed the lane where they don't belong
No they don't, you only hear about the loud minority.

But you can think whatever you want.

Maybe you also think that every dude that goes into a gym is the same as those dumb infliencers full of steroids and secret tricks you see on yt and not just chill people training and minding their business...

Little spoiler, they are not.

P.s. sorry if i misunderstood your post.
 
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this majority of trans, do they enforce their pronouns on us? Do they insist on using the opposite sex spaces; bathrooms/changing rooms, etc?

I was fine with trans people before and probably majority of us, it was live and let live before. Only recent years they started insist on those things, they crossed the lane where they don't belong

I commented on that phenomenon a couple of days ago. This all started when people started using an umbrella term for all kinds of distinct manifestations of gender diversity and a minority within that group started setting the rules, demanding that regular people had to conform to their wishes. Those weirdos and activists have set back the acceptance of transsexuals among regular people by decades.
 
On the one hand Kimmel is basically a comedian, on the other he was spreading misinformation. Bold move to suspend the show.

So can we agree this is the line that got him canceled?

"The Maga Gang desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

What's factually incorrect about that? Both sides are actively trying to disavow the shooter as one of their own and deflect blame to the other side.

We really do not know with 100% certainty which side of the aisle this guy leaned on at this point in time.
 
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