Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

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….and of course, the usual suspect

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I don't believe for a second this isn't a parody account.
 
This is the government job ffs, normal people should not waste a second of their life addressing extremist groups they were never part of to begin with, especially when these groups are violent and can ruin your life or harass you.

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Yes it is the governments job, but some people in these specific groups go out of their way to make their problem something EVERY American should support, tolerate, or embrace. It can't be both ways.
 
Gender disphoria exist unfortunately, some people genuinely feel like they were born in the wrong body and modern medicine can help, it's not different from women asking for bigger boobs or botox filled mouth, i find that extreme aswell, i'm way more disgusted by women ruining their faces and turning into literal puffed up monster than quiet, chill trans getting their dick chopped off in a private clinic.
This is the middle ground where guys like Charlie could engage. ADULTS taking hormone blockers or getting surgery, then dressing a certain way, and just going about their lives, that is compatible with most other people. But when it's pushed to CHILDREN, usually by their own PARENTS, that's a problem. When its in sports, that's a problem (well, men into women's sports, few complain about the reverse). When it's into bathrooms and locker rooms with girls and women who do not consent, it's a problem. When lesbians get shamed for not wanting to sleep with a dude in a dress, it's a problem. When folks get berated over pronouns invented yesterday, it's a problem. When folks start refusing to use the term "mother" or "woman" in relation to universally undeniable biological processes, it's a problem.
 
This is the middle ground where guys like Charlie could engage. ADULTS taking hormone blockers or getting surgery, then dressing a certain way, and just going about their lives, that is compatible with most other people. But when it's pushed to CHILDREN, usually by their own PARENTS, that's a problem. When its in sports, that's a problem (well, men into women's sports, few complain about the reverse). When it's into bathrooms and locker rooms with girls and women who do not consent, it's a problem. When lesbians get shamed for not wanting to sleep with a dude in a dress, it's a problem. When folks get berated over pronouns invented yesterday, it's a problem. When folks start refusing to use the term "mother" or "woman" in relation to universally undeniable biological processes, it's a problem.
Yup.

It's the combo of constant self promotion as well as promoting to others to do it which are the key problems. If someone wants to dress and act different go ahead. Most people wont know or care since it's not being jammed in their face. But add it to work policies or chilling watching TV like it's a 24/7 boner fest of promoting different lifestyles and gender/sex this or that, and that's the problem. And I'm not even a parent. So any wacky cases of shady stuff being taught in school doesnt even affect me. But for concerned parents, that's another point of political stupidity to worry about.

As per Gymwolf said, I agree. Were all human (living organisms really), so what yo get when youre born can be a mix of norms and differences. Never mind state of mind differences. Some people are born without arms or legs. Or the baby is unlucky and right off the bat is born with a heart defect as has to get surgery asap. Things happen and some people will have it tougher since society is built on attitude and physical subsets that cater to norms. So if someone thinks trans or is missing a leg, you'll have a tougher life to live unless you can adjust greatly or just accept who you are and dont get caught up in difficulties complaining every 5 minutes.

It gets to a point, it's like being confronted by a sales guy. You know he's got an agenda, and ya you'll hear him out the first time to be polite, you might even brush him off nicely if he tries to keep promoting. But it gets to a point when the guy just keeps going it becomes a pissy situation. I get it. You got something to tell me about. But I'm not interested and just want to go back to whatever I was doing. I dont need to be told about your product or service 5 times before you finally get the message to leave.
 
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This is the middle ground where guys like Charlie could engage. ADULTS taking hormone blockers or getting surgery, then dressing a certain way, and just going about their lives, that is compatible with most other people. But when it's pushed to CHILDREN, usually by their own PARENTS, that's a problem. When its in sports, that's a problem (well, men into women's sports, few complain about the reverse). When it's into bathrooms and locker rooms with girls and women who do not consent, it's a problem. When lesbians get shamed for not wanting to sleep with a dude in a dress, it's a problem. When folks get berated over pronouns invented yesterday, it's a problem. When folks start refusing to use the term "mother" or "woman" in relation to universally undeniable biological processes, it's a problem.

Yeah, this is exactly why progressive ideology doesn't work. They are progressing themselves into oblivion because nothing is enough. If they don't find anything to progress towards anymore, they start eating their own, starting from the people who aren't as progressive as them.
 
Dude, the Patriot Act passed like 360-66 in the House and 98-1 in the Senate. That's about as bipartisan as ANYTHING we've seen in our lifetime. AND Obama extended it in 2011. So GTFO with it being just a Republican atrocity.
Not to mention, whether true or not, Biden has previously claimed credit for writing the patriot act in the 90s.
 
I used to love that guy on Sports Center.......before he went insane
Same. Guy is now a nut case.


Internet driving accountability in media is definitely the one positive of social media :P

Probably the only good thing about social media is there is a digital footprint left and these morons keep getting called out. Obviously, it goes both ways and the right needs to keep that in mind.
 
Man I don't know how I feel about Kimmel getting canceled.

He lied, or at least strongly implied a false motive/background for the assassin.

But

Is this really grounds for the FCC to start making threats and demands?

But

His show had shit ratings and probably would've been canceled anyway

But

Sinclair also has strong motive to get on the FCC's good side because they need approval for a merger



I'm conflicted. Not sad to see Kimmel's shitty show go bye-bye, but many are going to interpret this as politically motivated government censorship + conflict of interest. And I can easily see this being used as justification for a left-leaning FCC doing the same thing in the future.
 
as justification for a left-leaning FCC doing the same thing in the future.

The Right needs to stop being scared of what they Left will do, as if they hadn't been doing it for a decade already, one way or the other. Having USAID funding leftist media all over the globe is exactly that.

They have never needed any justification to do whatever they want.
 
Man I don't know how I feel about Kimmel getting canceled.

He lied, or at least strongly implied a false motive/background for the assassin.

But

Is this really grounds for the FCC to start making threats and demands?

But

His show had shit ratings and probably would've been canceled anyway

But

Sinclair also has strong motive to get on the FCC's good side because they need approval for a merger



I'm conflicted. Not sad to see Kimmel's shitty show go bye-bye, but many are going to interpret this as politically motivated government censorship + conflict of interest. And I can easily see this being used as justification for a left-leaning FCC doing the same thing in the future.
Kimble could have just had an apology monolog the next day and it all would have blown over. But he was stoking the fires with his propaganda (and its nothing but propaganda the way he delivered it) in an environment where there have been TWO recent assassination attempts on the president, home attacks, and then the kirk one. We are CLEARLY in a high pressure situation in the past couple of years and he is waaaaay overstepping with what he said.

I kinda agree with the theory he did it deliberately for the golf claps from his 'base' ahead of his inevitable termination anyway and will probably be launching a podcast within a week.
 
Man I don't know how I feel about Kimmel getting canceled.

He lied, or at least strongly implied a false motive/background for the assassin.

But

Is this really grounds for the FCC to start making threats and demands?

But

His show had shit ratings and probably would've been canceled anyway

But

Sinclair also has strong motive to get on the FCC's good side because they need approval for a merger



I'm conflicted. Not sad to see Kimmel's shitty show go bye-bye, but many are going to interpret this as politically motivated government censorship + conflict of interest. And I can easily see this being used as justification for a left-leaning FCC doing the same thing in the future.

I think it had more to do with the affiliates yanking the show than anything. Also that affiliate trying to buy more stations should get denied. They don't need more. I think it would be a legal violation for them to own more than they already do.

But Kimmel or people pretending he was joking are being intellectually dishonest. I would call it a specious argument. They know he was lying about the killer, but they want to frame it in a certain way so they can score political points or claim free speech violations. You are not required to platform speech.

Musk asked this week if they should ban people that celebrate the murder, and I would say no, because you want those people to expose themselves. De-platforming them makes twitter an only certain speech platform and not a free speech platform.
 
For me, if someone wants to say dumb stuff go ahead. Just face the consequences.

But as for banning it or not, it's hard to say. One part of me says yes, but another side says no. I think it kind of depends on who it is and how serious the narrative is. As much as Kimmel is anti-right cracking jokes every night doing it that way, I think there's a difference between him doing it and let's say literally Hitler organizing holocausts and taking over Europe.

Comedians are always given more slack as they straddle the fence trying to make hot topics funny (even if it's a tasteless joke), while a hardcore politician's tasteless message will be serious in tone.

The message can actually be kind of the same in context, but one guy does it in a lighthearted way where some people take political jokes serious or not, while the other guy is supposed to be taken seriously for his every word.

Depends if your view is to cut the cord on all trashy hateful rhetoric. Or just ban it from real political people. Or perhaps youre totally open and anyone can say anything without filter.
 
Man I don't know how I feel about Kimmel getting canceled.

He lied, or at least strongly implied a false motive/background for the assassin.

But

Is this really grounds for the FCC to start making threats and demands?

But

His show had shit ratings and probably would've been canceled anyway

But

Sinclair also has strong motive to get on the FCC's good side because they need approval for a merger



I'm conflicted. Not sad to see Kimmel's shitty show go bye-bye, but many are going to interpret this as politically motivated government censorship + conflict of interest. And I can easily see this being used as justification for a left-leaning FCC doing the same thing in the future.
this left vs right thing as separate entities of the whole is an illusion in our minds that comes from a false understanding of the interconnectedness of the whole. We are so short sighted we can't see that we are literally attacking ourselves, and celebrate while doing so
 
this left vs right thing as separate entities of the whole is an illusion in our minds that comes from a false understanding of the interconnectedness of the whole. We are so short sighted we can't see that we are literally attacking ourselves, and celebrate while doing so
I would agree with you that if we all just sat around doin' some DMT and 'shrooms, we'd be in a happier place.
 
The Right needs to stop being scared of what they Left will do, as if they hadn't been doing it for a decade already, one way or the other. Having USAID funding leftist media all over the globe is exactly that.

They have never needed any justification to do whatever they want.
I disagree. If you're discussing how much power the government/executive branch ought to have, then you absolutely should be afraid about what those on the opposite side will do when (not if) they have that same power.

I also believe that regulatory agencies should be held to an especially high standard and should make every effort to avoid even the appearance of impropriety/conflict of interest.

Also glad to see USAID dissolved but I don't see how that's relevant.
 
Man I don't know how I feel about Kimmel getting canceled.

He lied, or at least strongly implied a false motive/background for the assassin.

But

Is this really grounds for the FCC to start making threats and demands?

But

His show had shit ratings and probably would've been canceled anyway

But

Sinclair also has strong motive to get on the FCC's good side because they need approval for a merger



I'm conflicted. Not sad to see Kimmel's shitty show go bye-bye, but many are going to interpret this as politically motivated government censorship + conflict of interest. And I can easily see this being used as justification for a left-leaning FCC doing the same thing in the future.

He should not have been canceled, that is very clear to me. If anything, these pathological liars will try once again to be perceived as victims.
ABC should have shoved an official announcement in his own show that he lied or something, and moved on and eventually end his show in the future.

But I'm not gonna lie, seeing these hypocrites eaten by what they so many times cheered is funny as fuck.
 
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He lied, or at least strongly implied a false motive/background for the assassin.
Kimmel's burn on Trump seemed fair game to me but the suggestion that the assassin was MAGA was a red flag to me. Had he left that bit out I don't think we would be where we are today. I've had a skim through a few news videos today and this aspect is being wilfully overlooked in typical leftist gaslighting fashion.
 
I would think they would be happy for a man doing Black face to be cancelled.. then again this is also the same group that wanted to save the environment but decided to burn teslas with lithium batteries.
 
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