Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Not unless we knew the digital sales for both.
[UK] - Ghost of Yotei’s physical sales really good. Beat 2nd week of EA Sports FC 26. Sold 3x as much as Mario Gakaxy 1+2 on Switch
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Skifi28
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I love how much people hate open worlds.
graywolf323
Member
honestly at this point most of the people claiming to the game is 'woke' really just hate it because they're anti-PlayStation & they're grasping at straws for reasons it should fail
no coincidence that the most die hard attackers also attack basically everything else Sony does
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Oixte
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When did the online gaming community become so hateful? I've noticed the same thing on Twitch. I used to watch Asmongold play WoW and other video games, but now all he does is complain about "woke" stuff and tell his viewers how the world should be.
His viewers shouldn't be taking advice from someone who never leaves his house, lives with rats and (I think) has never even visited another country.
His viewers shouldn't be taking advice from someone who never leaves his house, lives with rats and (I think) has never even visited another country.
calico
Member
We're lucky the games industry would never do something like that.
PauloRoberto
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So you believe it'll make around $350 Million, then fall off a cliff? So probably ending at $500 Million in revenue at the end of its run........that shows incredible to me!
CentralScrutinizer
Member
FWIW, Sony hasn't been the best at reinvesting their single player game profits from last gen for games this gen. Hopefully they don't use the revenue for GoY for live service crap.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Jim Ryan is gone, so I believe they'll go back to how they were in the past.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Hermen remains. We are not safe as long as he is there.
Toons
Member
Oh if kill bill came out today the internet grifters would absolutely call it woke. Lone 130 lb woman takes down like 75 trained guys in the movie
Bojji
Member
I agree, and why is that? People are very cynical because those cunts were forcing this shit for almost a decade now. Someone counted "minority" characters in Netflix creations:
71.4% is now "unrepresented". And yet some people claim that this shit isn't happening...
calico
Member
Some maybe, but I think the more obviously absurd the setting is to begin with, the less likely it is for people to take issue with this sort of thing. There is not really any statement being made if the feat is being depicted within such an ungrounded setting.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I get the Herman hate to some degree, but I tend to think he was doing what Jim Ryan wanted. Guess we'll see over the next 3 years.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
US isn't the World. I got Ghost for £20 less than a year after it was out just like Spider-Man, Horizon, God of War series. They sell decent numbers but are incredibly front loaded. Anything past 5 million for a Sony FP game is massively discounted if not as part of a trial / subscription. Nintendo sell their games for 90% of their sales at full price. Big difference.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
What does it tell us? Being pro consumer and offering sales does not pay
? Well, more than that one could argue that Nintendo generally has good quality software but (and not a small but either) remained patient and refrained from training consumers to wait for meaningful discounts which may never come.Nintendo would tell you they are pro-consumer because they want to ensure we keep getting the games we like made by resisting a race to the bottom with prices devaluing games
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Kvally
Member
But she has her ass out at the hot springs
lughnasadh123
Member
Whether it's something a Dev might say that you don't like or messaging in the story you don't agree with, a good game deserves to do well. Hoping for it's demise solely based on ideology will not be weird to me especially with layoffs and studio implosions always being a constant threat.
nial
Gold Member
It never had a permanent price cut anywhere, and sure, Sony discounts its games time to time (like literally every other company besides Nintendo), but it isn't exactly as you frame it. Not sure I'd call it "massively discounted", either, as Director's Cut's lowest price in the US was just 30USD, and it must be an equivalent case everywhere else.
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Sethbacca
Member
Clickbait translates into views. It's that simple.
Lot easier to engage peoples outrage centers with hyperbole and clickbait..
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
And 10 bucks more expensive. So they make more money per copy sold.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
It tells us they have conditioned their customers not to expect price cuts to their big name software so they pay full price. In the UK everyone knows you get most Sony and Ubisoft games for sub £25 within their first year. GT, Death Stranding and Days Gone were another three Sony games that were bargain bin games after only a few months.What does it tell us? Being pro consumer and offering sales does not pay
Nintendo would tell you they are pro-consumer because they want to ensure we keep getting the games we like made by resisting a race to the bottom with prices devaluing games
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Tough week for the haters if true.
kazuyamishima
Member
We had games like Metal Gear Solid 3 SE with gay/bisexual characters and even when you complete the game, they give you a rainbow uniform, I don't see people calling it woke or anything.
I haven't seen any "woke" Shit in Yotei yet.
Nintendo also has sales for their games, super mario party jamboree was $40 in November 2024 just about a month after launch, Nintendo games DO go on sale too.
Toons
Member
I agree, and why is that? People are very cynical because those cunts were forcing this shit for almost a decade now. Someone counted "minority" characters in Netflix creations:
71.4% is now "unrepresented". And yet some people claim that this shit isn't happening...
Dude absolutely zero people go look up a chart of what percentage of whatever race and gender is in a movie or game before deciding to watch it or play it. They didn't with kill bill, and God willing most of em still don't now.
No one cares that much
Bojji
Member
You don't get it? When kill bill was released no one forced that shit into movies and tv shows, and even if they did it was tiny procentage. Kill bill was successful because it was a great movie.
Now everything is agenda driven, you can clearly see that on this chart, this is not natural - but forced. You can see the same thing in UK advertisment, black people are 4% of the population yet they are present in over 50% of ads. Coincidence?
More and more people are seeing this, does it affect sales or views? Sometimes it does, there are examples of games and movies that bombed because "grifters" were calling out bullshit on display and it got big enough to get mainstream.
You can say that all this is idiocy and not true but this is not what data is showing.
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yogaflame
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Good to hear about GOY not having a very strong push and forcing any woke agenda especially twisted gender ideology crap. Before I transition back to PSVR2 after finishing my backlogs, I will definitely consider buying GOY later this year along with SH f.
It seems that discreetly and slowly but surely Sony is already learning and healing. I hope and pray that this is the same case with Intergalactic and Wolverine, because those games looks so impressive but will be ruined if they will push and force woke agenda especially twisted gender ideology crap.
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CentralScrutinizer
Member
For a game that's not woke, they sure as hell did themselves no favors with their casting pick. That choice alone painted the game a huge unnecessary negative light right away.
yogaflame
Member
I never like that extremist antifa Erika, but good thing she has no influence on the story of the game and there is no strong push for woke agenda, as mentioned by other members in gaf. Maybe, what happened, later in the games development as Sony saw a cultural change and common sense is back, maybe, they made some changes to the game and remove anything that depicts strong and force woke agenda in the game. The actress cannot be replace anymore since she is under contract, but her agenda will not influence the game.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
What makes you think she had any power over any of that? She's literally just an actress...
CentralScrutinizer
Member
The Charlie Kirk situation wasn't a good sign at all. Let's not forget that.
FalconPunch
Member
Even if this were true, so? Who cares? The best way to deal with the "labelling" people is to ignore them. You're misogynist…. Ok. You're sexist… Ok. It's just slanderous labelling in an attempt to compel behavioural change. First they slander, then they try to get peer pressure involved.
Once you understand their strategy, it's rather easy to diffuse. As long as you don't admit to anything and don't engage with them, they have no real power.
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Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Read my post. 90% of Nintendo games sell at full price (of course they have sales). With Sony it's more like 40% of their total sales at full price.
Ashamam
Member
If only they all ignored each other. The evidence is the opposite, everyone is too busy judging/educating/bullying or shaming the other.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
What does one tweet has to do with Yotei? She's an actress. She wouldn't have the power to change scripts just because.
ecosse_011172
Banned
FFS.
Almost every single thread on here is polluted with this anti "woke" obsession, it's boring as fuck.
The same thing over and over and over, just constant derailment.
So utterly dull and predictable and a completely pointless waste of time, in the real world, the vast majority of people do not give the slightest fuck, that's why this game, TLOU2, the upcoming ND game will all sell millions and millions of copies.
To just talk about actual games and be nicer to each other would be well, nice.
Almost every single thread on here is polluted with this anti "woke" obsession, it's boring as fuck.
The same thing over and over and over, just constant derailment.
So utterly dull and predictable and a completely pointless waste of time, in the real world, the vast majority of people do not give the slightest fuck, that's why this game, TLOU2, the upcoming ND game will all sell millions and millions of copies.
To just talk about actual games and be nicer to each other would be well, nice.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
I'm talking about the fired employee that SP and Sony dragged their feet with in regards to making a statement. It riled people up and painted the studio in a certain light and what the game could be in a certain light. People connected a ton of obvious dots and assumed the game would be extremely woke.
StueyDuck
Member
I don't know what the vast majority of people you meet day to day are like.
But in the last few years, the topic of woke, DEI, gender stupidity and the likes has been popping up far more frequently in the "normies" that I have met.
I mean, I was literally on holiday in Spain a couple of months back, and the conversation popped up several times with people I had never met before, and no, I wasn't bringing it up, I know to dodge that bullet in social circles.
It is clearly a problem that is being criticised and discussed globally by more people than you seem to know. I mean, Donald Trump doesn't become the president without it being a common topic.
If people want to talk about it, then why can't they? Why is it thread derailment, because it's a criticism you would rather didn't get spoken about? If anything your Whineposting is derailment.
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Oixte
Neo Member
Who cares about Charlie Kirk? 95% of the world's population isn't even from the US incl me. Honestly, no one cares about woke, DEI, Charlie Kirk or any of that culture war. The only thing that matters for the average gamer is whether the game is good and worth their money and time. Just look at Hogwarts Legacy despite all the internet controversy, it was a huge success. Why? Because the game is good.
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ecosse_011172
Banned
I live in Switzerland and I visit Spain, Italy, France multiple times per year, speak the local languages fluently and I've never heard any mention of it, so the people I meet are clearly different.
There is a world outside the USA/UK and their culture wars tbh.
I'm not saying they can't talk about it, I'm suggesting it would be better if it didn't dominate so many gaming threads, that's all.
StueyDuck
Member
I mean, the way you pretend it's never spoken about by anyone besides the US and UK tells me that you aren't meeting people.
If you think no one speaks about this stuff outside of a forum or twitter, then you aren't interacting with people socially, maybe meeting them in a work environment, which would make sense.
The Spain example was just an example, I've done a round trip across most of Europe and ended up in Dubai and it was brought up in each place I visited by some group or persons. But honestly, Switzerland doesn't surprise me, it is the bubbliest of bubbles in Europe.
But here's a suggestion, your suggestion sucks. It's dominating conversation because people want to converse about it. If you don't l ike the subject matter then maybe don't engage with it or find a place that suits your needs.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
They fired that person straight away. About connecting the obvious dots...Clearly they weren't that obvious since the game isn't "woke".
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Not arguing it's woke. I'm just stating why some people went down the path assuming it was woke.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
Assuming something and not look for the truth is not very smart right?
ecosse_011172
Banned
I didn't say it's never spoken about, just that in my social circle, it isn't.
So you went to bars and shops in Spain and other countries and local people just started about the evils of wokeism?
No idea why our experience is different? I just spent 4 nights in Valencia, met both UK friends and locals, Spanish and South American and no one spoke about wokeism, what they did speak about was the cost of living rises, the huge rent increases, that inflation is hugely outstripping any wage growth etc.
Burger King
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Nice
We want more single-player games, Sony
We want more single-player games, Sony