Predict the Steam Machine starting price

Predict the Steam Machine starting price

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SScorpio said:
AMD has been heavily rumored to be releasing FSR4 for RDNA3.

Outside of the 8GB of VRAM, everything you are concerned about is also an issue with the PS5 that's expected to be supported for another 8-10 years. So why is it some major problem for the Steam Machine. People are playing on 10 and 20 series GPUs still with the 1060s still being supported after nine years. Why would the Steam Machine be such an issue?
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The difference is that devs will target the ps5 spec and optimize games to run on that platform by making cuts where necessary. We've already seen it with the Steam Deck. It's approximately as powerful as a switch 2 but runs some games worse because there's no steam deck specific version. Meanwhile the switch 2 gets versions with optimization and cuts made to make it more performant. Secondly, the ps5 and especially the ps5 pro range from more powerful to significantly more powerful that the steam box. As a result, valve is already starting from a worse position.

Frankly, buying a pc with worse specs than the base console is just a very bad idea. That is unless you don't plan to play high end games. Even then, paying more for a pc with worse specs than a console just feels wrong.
 
SScorpio said:
AMD has been heavily rumored to be releasing FSR4 for RDNA3.
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They can release a gimped down version for RDNA3

But they can't add the dedicated hardware that RDNA 4 and PS5 Pro have

The gimped down version would be better IQ than FSR3 but not that much better than Intel XeSS
 
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Someone (MLID I think) did a BOM part list and it came out to roughly $425. So I'm guessing $500 for the 512GB and maybe $650 for the 2TB. I don't think either of these options comes with the new controller. It would be fucking awesome if it did though.

Regardless, I'm removing the WD Black 2TB NVMe from my PS5 Pro and buying the 512GB Steam Machine on Day 1. Numerous videos have said Valve made the SSD upgrade process easy.
 
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Taking into account not just the raw specs, but the actual choice of the parts to get those specs, they are clearly trying to make this as cheap as possible. The R&D should not be as much as a major console, and the marketing will not be nearly that much. Distribution will all be direct.

They really better be trying to do $500 for the base model. Steam deck was great intro price at $400, and most people bought the bigger storage models so that balanced it out.
 
$299/£299 including a pad for 360 arcade type sticker pricing possible $329/£329 to provide a 10% margin - but where you need a 4TB upgrade and windows for dual boot for CoD/Fortnite, etc.

It is effectively off the peg laptop/netbook grade hardware in a com[act box keeping costs, materials minimal and shipping weight low, and without even a license for the OS needed. The GPU is looking like it is missing enough WGPs to be a cheaper binned GPU too with modest clocks.

Even if the 1TB is $429/£429 and the 2TB at $529/£529, I think the 512GB needs to be $329/£329 or less for a box that can't play Fornite or CoD, etc because of kernel anti-cheat and not be dead-on-arrival.
 
Gabe Newell:
We've always been a little bit jealous of companies like Nintendo. When Miyamoto is sitting down and thinking about the next version of Zelda or Mario, he's thinking what is the controller going to look like, what sort of graphics and other capabilities. He can introduce new capabilities like motion input because he controls both of those things. And he can make the hardware look as good as possible because he's designing the software at the same time that's really going to take advantage of it. So that is something we've been jealous of, and that's something that you'll see us taking advantage of subsequently.

Gunpei Yokoi:
The Nintendo way of adapting technology is not to look for the state of the art but to utilize mature technology that can be mass-produced cheaply." He articulated his philosophy of "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology"
 
Just did a quick search, found we've already been getting semi affordable mini PCs that outperform the Deck. I guess it's not a high benchmark but still, neat.

And then some with higher end stuff with non integrated GPU even.

I hope Valve offers higher performance and value. This is the way things were going, but I'm sure their input has been valuable for AMD to do better & faster.
 
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299-399 for the 512GB would be a good competition for series S and switch ( should have been 1TB really though, but I suppose you can use USB drives to store games for use with this?) but that would put the 2TB in an odd spot because its gonna cost closer to a PS5/series X, and they probably have better raw performance.



And for a lot of console gamers this thing could be a cheap gateway into building up their PC games libraries for the first time. It could make a great second console for some people. Just depends how they price this thing.
 
Not paying for online, not paying for cloud, not paying for patches generation to generation that are resolution bumps or 60 fps mode, keeping your library for decades, digital store alternatives and cheap prices

It can be expensive hardware wise for its specs but it's an ecosystem you buy. You waste so much money on consoles with software side.
 
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It needs to be a better proposition than a base PS5. Under $500 or i don't think it gains any real traction.

moores law is dead gave a pretty compelling view of its BOM cost, if they can hit that they have a winner.
 
Little Mac said:
Not sure if this quote from Valve has been posted yet but …

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Someone (MLID I think) did a BOM part list and it came out to roughly $425. So I'm guessing $500 for the 512GB and maybe $650 for the 2TB. I don't think either of these options comes with the new controller. It would be fucking awesome if it did though.

Regardless, I'm removing the WD Black 2TB NVMe from my PS5 Pro and buying the 512GB Steam Machine on Day 1. Numerous videos have said Valve made the SSD upgrade process easy.
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That tells me $500 to $600 should be the price for the 512GB model. If I'm being optimistic and take his words literally, it would be $499 if I'm going to call it a "really competitive price".

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For that trash weak ass VRAM, it should be 500 like some of the comments say but somehow I think it'll be unfairly overpriced just like a lot of things. So I'm gonna guess high around 700 and 800 for the 500SSD and 2TB SSD. And won't even be surprised if it's more with how expensive and overpriced shits are nowadays.

Hope I'm wrong and the comment saying it'll start at 400 or 500 are actually the true answer. Might even get one if that's the case even at 600 as a backup PC, a cool device, and as a side PC that someone could play WoW and some other non splitscreen multiplayer/co op game with me.
 
Kacho said:
IGN speculates $800-900

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Anything over $600 - $700 (base model) is going to be hard for me to justify since I can build something with a little better GPU or more ram/storage in that $800-$900 range. Then again, I am not sure how much Valve cares if I use the SteamOS and the Steam controller on my new machine. I don't think they are in the hardware business to for the sake of pushing hardware. I bet they have a lot of data showing interest in SteamOS/Steam increased after the launch of the Steam Deck.
 
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Kacho said:
IGN speculates $800-900

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That would be very overpriced.

The SteamDeck was also supposed to be very expensive, but it launched at £349/$399. Very reasonable for a PC handheld.

Of course this will be more expensive than a SD, but 800-900 would be far too much to ask for a device that isn't as powerful as a five year old console.

I can see the Frame being very expensive, but the Steam Machine will (hopefully) be priced as a device to entice people to jump into PC gaming.
 
Sinozen said:
$800

And people are going to be disappointed asf. No way it'll be anywhere close to $500.
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800 USD is insane. The Steam Deck base model costs 300 USD to make and sells for 400 USD. Estimates from people who know their stuff say the Steam Machine will cost around 430 USD to produce.
 
RJMacready73 said:
Am I missing something here, this steam box screams shit specs, it's an indie game box that will sell for a premium to god knows who
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Specs that fit in perfectly well with what a large chunk of Steam gamers are gaming with right now. So as a first PC or an alternate PC in another room, it makes sense. But ONLY at the right price.
 
Topher said:
No it doesn't. I think it needs to be $500 base. I wouldn't be surprised if they are offering a 2 TB version just so they can jack up the price to $650. Kind of like what Sony did with PS5 Pro.
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PS5 Pro ha a completely different GPU and a better RAM configuration too

Not sure you can justify a $150 difference just for storage space in 2026

You can add storage by yourself cheaper
 
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MisterXDTV said:
PS5 Pro ha a completely different GPU and a better RAM configuration too

Not sure you can justify a $150 difference just for storage space in 2026

You can add storage by yourself cheaper
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Yeah, I get that, but PS5 Pro could have released cheaper with 1 TB but they didn't give that option. This is stuff Apple is famous for. Base price cheap, upgrades absurdly expensive.

The fact that you can upgrade it yourself is what is going to justify the $150 increase. Some folks will spend that extra money just so they don't have to bother replacing the SSD and reinstalling the OS.
 
Topher said:
That tells me $500 to $600 should be the price for the 512GB model. If I'm being optimistic and take his words literally, it would be $499 if I'm going to call it a "really competitive price".

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Gabe knows he has milion or two steam cultists out there who will pay even higher unreasonable price for his cube, hence launch price gonna be 599$, he can always cut price to 499$ on BF 2026 or whenver he feels initial mountain of suckers dried out and ppl need some incentive/better deal to jump in xD
 
Crispy Gamer said:
Apparently it doesn't come with a controller and I can't see this coming in cheaper than Steam Deck when factoring in the controller.
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Not coming with the controller is weird since this machine is promoting ease of use (living room gaming out of the box) All the previous Steam Machines came with a controller. Of course, Valve was not making those machines themselves so that may be the difference. Still it is kind of an F you message if you order one for your tv and don't get the controller. (I know you can use any controller, you want but still...)
 
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I said $899 but I'm also thinking in Canadian dollars. I can't see them charging less than a Switch 2 for this and on the Linus video when asked about the price they did say it's a PC and will be priced like a PC so even on the lower price point most entry level PC's here are minimum $700 or so so I think it'll be close to that range. If it goes $1000+ then that is too much imo anything lower I'm on board I'm very excited for this.
 
PeteBull said:
Gabe knows he has milion or two steam cultists out there who will pay even higher unreasonable price for his cube, hence launch price gonna be 599$, he can always cut price to 499$ on BF 2026 or whenver he feels initial mountain of suckers dried out and ppl need some incentive/better deal to jump in xD
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The wife told me my cultism has a $500 max allowance and my cult friends will just have to understand

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