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Monitoring the situation in Iran

confused_pumpkin1506 said:
so much for the president of peace eh!!!!!

hope all the maga ones that voted for no wars are the first signing up for the military cos im sure as fuck not dying for this fucking idiot of a president
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This was always gonna happen, no matter which party was in charge.

Iran was insistent on becoming a nuclear power and consistently showed intent to use said nukes. They have been breaking treaties for like 40+ years now and refusing to come to the table for negotiations.

Which outcome would you have preferred? Israel being nuked one day? Maybe somewhere in Europe, or what most probably would have happened is the US?
 
StueyDuck said:
This was always gonna happen, no matter which party was in charge.

Iran was insistent on becoming a nuclear power and consistently showed intent to use said nukes. They have been breaking treaties for like 40+ years now and refusing to come to the table for negotiations.

Which outcome would you have preferred? Israel being nuked one day? Maybe somewhere in Europe, or what most probably would have happened is the US?
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too be honest fuck Israel. there is no real evidence to suggest that they were even close to a bomb... whats next.... is trumper going to after north korea next
 
calico said:
Will that make anyone killed by imported Islamic terrorists in retaliation for attacking an Islamic regime any less dead?

Fear of 'domestic' terrorist action is a significant determinator of foreign policy for many European nations now, as so much of their population now has greater allegiance to the potential adversary of the nation's foreign policy than to the nation they reside within.
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Well, looking at how many that has died from terrorism in us vs eu, I'd say maybe europe should deploy troops to the us to help with security over there.
 
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confused_pumpkin1506 said:
too be honest fuck Israel. there is no real evidence to suggest that they were even close to a bomb... whats next.... is trumper going to after north korea next
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You have to be retarded?

or this is the first time you have read something about what has been happening in Iran, this thread itself that you are commenting in has been long since active before the strikes even happened.

Trump (his cabinet) has been trying to negotiate with those IRGC clowns since he took office. He's been trying to get peace in the Middle East since his first term. He's done two coordinated strikes to try to scare them and bring them to the table, but the radical extreme regime is stubborn and, to no one's surprise, radical.

These are people literally shouting "Death to America" and other chants.

Also, what sort of clown is ok with Israel or any nation being nuked...

You were dropped on your head as a child im guessing.
 
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StueyDuck said:
You have to be retarded?

or this is the first time you have read something about what has been happening in Iran, this thread itself that you are commenting in has been long since active before the strikes even happened.

Trump (his cabinet) has been trying to negotiate with those IRGC clowns since he took office. He's been trying to get peace in the Middle East since his first term. He's done two coordinated strikes to try scare them and bring them to the table, but the radical extreme regime is stubborn and, to no one's surprise... radical.

These are people literally shouting "Death to America" and other chants.

Also, what sort of clown is ok with Israel or any nation being nuked...

you were dropped on your head as a child im guessing.
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Some recent history from this user

 
Go_Ly_Dow said:
Some recent history from this user

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yeah i kind of had a feeling it's a bot.

Seems more like it.
 
Go_Ly_Dow said:
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why am i not allowed an opinion
 
StueyDuck said:
still waiting for this debate you are crying about, 2 posts and all you could say was "hooray for nuking Israel".

Also trust me, it may not have been said but we are all definitely thinking it right now.
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did not say that....

I said fuck Israel. with their killing of women and kids fuck them.

are gonna go fight in a war when it inevitably reaches that point?
 
confused_pumpkin1506 said:
did not say that....

I said fuck Israel. with their killing of women and kids fuck them.

are gonna go fight in a war when it inevitably reaches that point?
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well then you can't read...

because my post clearly said nuking a nation is the alternative (i didn't just say Israel either). and your response was "fuck israel"....

maybe you don't understand how debates, or just conversations in general work but you can't just blurt out random non sequitor remarks in a debate.
 

Three U.S. F-15s Involved in Friendly Fire Incident in Kuwait; Pilots Safe

USCENTCOM
TAMPA, Fla. – At 11:03 p.m. ET, March 1, three U.S. F-15E Strike Eagles flying in support of Operation Epic Fury went down over Kuwait due to an apparent friendly fire incident.

During active combat—that included attacks from Iranian aircraft, ballistic missiles, and drones — the U.S. Air Force fighter jets were mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses.

All six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition. Kuwait has acknowledged this incident, and we are grateful for the efforts of the Kuwaiti defense forces and their support in this ongoing operation.

The cause of the incident is under investigation. Additional information will be released as it becomes available.
 
Go_Ly_Dow said:
That's my worry. So far there isn't a sign of a mass uprising of people which is what is needed to end this fast.

If they're going to do this and don't want it to drag on then they need to absolutely obliterate the vast majority of their missile and drone infastructure, as well as remaining nuclear infastructure and IRGC bases and set them back years and then see what happens interally.

Economically they were already fucked and so the best shot of change now is severely weakening the regime and then sitting back, watching and being ready for a fast response should they immediately become hostile when talks begin.
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Mass uprising did happen a few months ago and that time they were slaughtered by IRGC and no one intervened to stop it. Iranians aren't going to do that now.

Iran is using a different strategy of putting pressure on the US by going after their Mideast allies and bases and not directly going after Israel now like they did last time.
 
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calico said:

Three U.S. F-15s Involved in Friendly Fire Incident in Kuwait; Pilots Safe

USCENTCOM
TAMPA, Fla. – At 11:03 p.m. ET, March 1, three U.S. F-15E Strike Eagles flying in support of Operation Epic Fury went down over Kuwait due to an apparent friendly fire incident.

During active combat—that included attacks from Iranian aircraft, ballistic missiles, and drones — the U.S. Air Force fighter jets were mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses.

All six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition. Kuwait has acknowledged this incident, and we are grateful for the efforts of the Kuwaiti defense forces and their support in this ongoing operation.

The cause of the incident is under investigation. Additional information will be released as it becomes available.
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Three friendly fire accidents??? Those are very expensive mistakes to make. And wasn't there a female Israeli pilot involved too?

 
calico said:

Three U.S. F-15s Involved in Friendly Fire Incident in Kuwait; Pilots Safe

USCENTCOM
TAMPA, Fla. – At 11:03 p.m. ET, March 1, three U.S. F-15E Strike Eagles flying in support of Operation Epic Fury went down over Kuwait due to an apparent friendly fire incident.

During active combat—that included attacks from Iranian aircraft, ballistic missiles, and drones — the U.S. Air Force fighter jets were mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses.

All six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition. Kuwait has acknowledged this incident, and we are grateful for the efforts of the Kuwaiti defense forces and their support in this ongoing operation.

The cause of the incident is under investigation. Additional information will be released as it becomes available.
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Glad to hear the pilots are all safe.
 
Has the exiled crown prince set foot in Iran yet? The self proclaimed transilitonal leader has been wanting support his fellpw compatriots on the ground for quite some time now
 
FullMetalx117 said:
Has the exiled crown prince set foot in Iran yet? The self proclaimed transilitonal leader has been wanting support his fellpw compatriots on the ground for quite some time now
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No, and I don't think he will ever set. I don't see how this attacks will take the government down. I can't see that happening without a ground invasion which is not going to happen. Unfortunately for the people of Iran.
 
Ovek said:
I said it before.... ahem.. President of "Peace"... ahem... lol
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Iran was given multiple chances to come to the table during this month's long build up after massacring tens of thousands of innocents, during the six months they were licking their wounds from the last incursion, and during the years/decades they've been a menace funding terrorist/terrorism around the globe. More than they deserve. You get peace through diplomacy or force, depending on the context, what would be an alternative context for Iran after decades of nothing else working?
 
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In 2008, in response to Starbucks' reintroduction of its original logo (featuring a topless siren), Dice led his group and its 3,000 members in boycotting the coffee chain: "The Starbucks logo has a naked woman on it with her legs spread like a prostitute […] It's extremely poor taste, and the company might as well call themselves Slutbucks." Starbucks had more than 6,000 locations in 2008.

As the founder of The Resistance, Dice told KFSN-TV of his group's intention to disrupt theater showings of 2009's Angels & Demons because the film "is a fraud, aimed at covering up the existence of a secret society called the Illuminati." Dice contended that the Illuminati were instrumental in the September 11 attacks and the 2008 financial crisis.
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Yeah totally going to click on that guys YouTube video

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We lost 2 fighter jets to our own defense system in Kuwait. Probably Patriot missiles. There were issues with Patriots shooting down US planes in Gulf War one. I would get US crews on those missile Batteries.



 
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vodka-bull said:
Why's a ground invasion not going to happen?
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Many reasons.

To start with, there is almost zero domestic appetite in the US for another multi trillion-dollar ground war that results in high casualty rates.

If the US did still commit to boots on the ground, Iran could take some pretty drastic measures. For example, they could easily mine or block this narrow waterway in the Strait of Hormuz. If they did that, roughly 20% of the world's oil supply stops moving.

Then there is the man power required for an occupation. Iran is a lot bigger than Iraq population wise and would need far more tropps to successfully occupy it than was used in the war in Iraq.

It would be a very long war of attrition, costing trillion of dollars and resulting in a massive loss of human life.

The current strategy appears to be regime change via pressure rather than forcing it with a ground invasion. By taking out the leadership and destroying military infrastructure from the air, the US and Israel are likely betting that the Iranian protest movement will spring back into life and topple the regime for them.
 
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