The Hermit
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I wish I knew, but there's a lot of things right, including the music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPin8YYV5-c
Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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I wish I knew, but there's a lot of things right, including the music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPin8YYV5-c
didn't he think TP was bad too? If so, why would he care at all if TP got delayed?
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Deleted member 81567
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i don't hate metroid prime. i wouldn't even give a game i hate a 1.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I laughed.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I'm guessing the fucking CLIFF RACERS didn't go over well
not that hard to figure, honestly. theres always going to be a very "eager" group out there that declares the newest zelda release to be the best in the series. i know ive heard that almost in equal measure with MM, WW, TP, and now SS.
I don't trust game journalist in the first place so...they are all pretty bad to me.
EmCeeGramr
Member
What exactly was that? (I wish I could watch those)
Using reviews to get shit off their chest that could be done in a podcast or some other article, instead of actually reviewing the game.
Just like there is always very eager group to shit on the newest Zelda. Every single one of those games could be considered the best in the series by different people.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Here's what I find interesting about the outliers to the SS review scores:
In this particular case, most of the 9-10 scores seem to be specifically citing that "this is the game the Wii was made for and it deserves recognition for that" and "this is the Zelda that finally introduces progressive features to update the Zelda experience, in addition to using motion controls the right way". From what I've seen, almost EVERY positive review has emphasized how this Zelda feels fresh in some way - be it world layout, storytelling, dialog style, characters, or whatever.
A few of the outlier opinions, either overtly or between the lines, say that it's just more of the same old Zelda and motion controls are broken and don't work.
So... when 50 people say "this Zelda has new things" and 2 guys say "meh, more of the same", I think the odds are, the 2 outliers don't just have different opinions on the same content everyone else experienced. But rather went into it determined to find something lacking and disregarded the impact of what the game does that is new, in favor of harping on traditional aspects that exist because without them, it wouldn't be Zelda anymore.
When 50 people say "these motion controls work at last", emphasizing they had to be convinced the motion controls work this time, and 2 say "same old trash, whatever", I think it's much more likely the outliers didn't give a crap, rolled their eyes, shrugged, and vaguely waved their arm around the room while looking away from the TV in disgust at the fact that they were being asked to play a mere Wii game.
In this particular case, most of the 9-10 scores seem to be specifically citing that "this is the game the Wii was made for and it deserves recognition for that" and "this is the Zelda that finally introduces progressive features to update the Zelda experience, in addition to using motion controls the right way". From what I've seen, almost EVERY positive review has emphasized how this Zelda feels fresh in some way - be it world layout, storytelling, dialog style, characters, or whatever.
A few of the outlier opinions, either overtly or between the lines, say that it's just more of the same old Zelda and motion controls are broken and don't work.
So... when 50 people say "this Zelda has new things" and 2 guys say "meh, more of the same", I think the odds are, the 2 outliers don't just have different opinions on the same content everyone else experienced. But rather went into it determined to find something lacking and disregarded the impact of what the game does that is new, in favor of harping on traditional aspects that exist because without them, it wouldn't be Zelda anymore.
When 50 people say "these motion controls work at last", emphasizing they had to be convinced the motion controls work this time, and 2 say "same old trash, whatever", I think it's much more likely the outliers didn't give a crap, rolled their eyes, shrugged, and vaguely waved their arm around the room while looking away from the TV in disgust at the fact that they were being asked to play a mere Wii game.
MushroomSamba
Member
That's reassuring, and I'm glad the few that've played it on GAF seem okay with the controls. When it comes this aspect in particular, I generally prefer what GAF has to say over the "pros".
Whatever mod changed the thread title mentioning the Venturebeat review must be laughing out loud right now. There's the perfect shitstorm rigth there.
The reviewer is getting slammed in the comments section and he is even responding to some of them. It's been a fun read all together
The reviewer is getting slammed in the comments section and he is even responding to some of them. It's been a fun read all together
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Whatever mod changed the thread title mentioning the Venturebeat review must be laughing out loud right now. There's the perfect shitstorm rigth there.
The reviewer is getting slammed in the comments section and he is even responding to some of them. It's been a fun read all together
I finally clicked the link to see what it was about, and yes he is even correcting someone's grammar.
Fuck. The cycle is real! Time to go!
Hehehe, lovely gif..was looking for a similar one XD
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Obviously most of that VentureBeat review is trollbait for an anti-Wii agenda, but some of it rang true. The motion controls do feel a bit iffy, nowhere near as fluid as Wii Sports Resort, the games clearly main inspiration.
Also:
I might have to stop playing the game right now if this is true.
Also:
I might have to stop playing the game right now if this is true.
that was sort of my point. but then, i was saying thats going to play a part in the "wild" variance of scores.
can it be he means that you come back later on in the game to get a hidden heart container part or something like that?
No, you do come back later on. But you immediately unlock a brand new area. You aren't running around in the same place repeatedly. With the exception of the first dungeon, which you do visit twice.
There were parts of Twilight Princess that you revisited as well.
That site gave MW3's single-player a 91.
Which is equal to what they gave Uncharted 3.
Which is higher than the 90 they gave to MW3's multiplayer.
Which is higher than Arkham City's 89.
Which is WAY higher than BF3's 69.
Yeah... I don't think we should care about this one guys.
Which is equal to what they gave Uncharted 3.
Which is higher than the 90 they gave to MW3's multiplayer.
Which is higher than Arkham City's 89.
Which is WAY higher than BF3's 69.
Yeah... I don't think we should care about this one guys.
I don't get the complaints about motion controls in Twilight Princess. They were easily one of my favorite parts of the game. Leaving that aside...
MY QUESTION: Can you still run and slice in Skyward Sword? I kinda, sorta loved running and slicing at grass as I was running, but I've got the impression from videos that Link now stops every time he makes a sword swing.
MY QUESTION: Can you still run and slice in Skyward Sword? I kinda, sorta loved running and slicing at grass as I was running, but I've got the impression from videos that Link now stops every time he makes a sword swing.
Alex
Member
Motion Controls in TP were total shit, the sword specifically here. Added absolutely nothing to the game outside of clunk and was exactly the sort of deal that made the Wii look stupid instead of the type of fare Skyward is going for where the motion has a point.
Twilight Princess, outside of it's laggy intro (which I don't typically mind, slow intros) was such a good game though, great dungeons, so the game could have required me to wear a colander on my head and I'd have put up with it.
Twilight Princess, outside of it's laggy intro (which I don't typically mind, slow intros) was such a good game though, great dungeons, so the game could have required me to wear a colander on my head and I'd have put up with it.
elrechazado
Banned
Comedy gold
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Dude Mirror's Edge's Time Trials are absolutely incredible.
MushroomSamba
Member
That's one way to interpret it, but I think it would've been a stronger case if we're talking about a random sampling here and not the gaming press specifically, who sorta have a tendency to over-inflate scores, go overboard with praise, and gloss over flaws.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I find the opposite is generally true with Wii games.
Primate Ryan
Neo Member
Agreed. One of only a few 10s this generation, together with Super Meat Boy and possibly SpaceChem.
How can anyone call SS progressive? The extreme levels of hand-holding so far indicate that not only has it NOT progressed, but it has actually taken SEVERAL steps backwards.
The over abundance of "HEY LOOK YOU GOT RUPPEE" "HEY LOOK YOU GOT HEART" "HEY YOU SUCK AT THIS GAME GET SOME HEARTS" "HEY THERE'S A LOCKED DOOR GUESS WHAT YOU NEED TO GET A KEY TO UNLOCK IT" etc etc etc etc is just mind blowing. HOW did they not only re-implement this commonly complained about aspect but also manage to increase the frequency tenfold?
The over abundance of "HEY LOOK YOU GOT RUPPEE" "HEY LOOK YOU GOT HEART" "HEY YOU SUCK AT THIS GAME GET SOME HEARTS" "HEY THERE'S A LOCKED DOOR GUESS WHAT YOU NEED TO GET A KEY TO UNLOCK IT" etc etc etc etc is just mind blowing. HOW did they not only re-implement this commonly complained about aspect but also manage to increase the frequency tenfold?
TheExplodingHead
Banned
For me the best time trial-esque games this gen were Mirror's Edge, Super Meat Boy, Mega Man 9, and DKCR.
what i love about them is that, yeah, they're incredibly incredible on their own, but then you try to speed run a campaign, and it's like a marathon of time trials. it turns the single player game from something great into something goddamn amazing.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Way to speak truth to power, man.
All of that sounds the same as every Zelda since OoT.
I take it you're not enjoying it, though?
Unless it happens literally every 30 seconds, that's impossible.
MisterHero
Super Member
it's the 1st Zelda chronologically so you need to know
TP had the same bull and people weren't complaining.
just wait until your batteries start running out.
Slurpy2k20
Member
It's actually worse in SS. Even if you have 20 of any type of widget, it will stop you in your tracks when you pick up another, do the dramatic music animation, throw a paragraph of text onscreen about what you just picked up, then it will open up your menu, and show you the animation of the thing being added, which you've picked up a million times before. I can't for the life of me understand the point of it all. Takes like 10 seconds, during which Im invariably button mashing to get it to go quicker.
DR2K
Banned
Or maybe, just maybe they didn't like it as much.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
If you don't like something you say so. You shouldn't say the thing you don't like doesn't work on a technical level.
I was trying to post in another thread and it seems it got posted in this one.
Anyway the scores seem fine for the game so I'll be picking this up sometime next year when I'm back in the states along with Xenoblade.
no, it absolutely did not. not to this extent. this is truly the low point in terms of hand-holding in zelda history.
BertramCooper
Banned
I'm always amused by the lone reviewers who try to "fix the system" of inflated game scores by doing the exact opposite.
Because taking it to the other extreme fixes everything.
Because taking it to the other extreme fixes everything.