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[Vire]

I'm not pretending I'm not concerned- this team has issues. But they had issues last year. All I'm saying is that last year taught me that all the noise and bullshit surrounding regular season games means very little. This team can definitely get beat, but I'm not gonna go into panic mode based on a regular season game.

The difference is, we were heading into the Playoffs on a hot streak last year. This year, we are playing like shit as a team.

Partly it has to do with Spo's coaching.

 

[pilonv1]

Shane Battier -30
CJ Watson +38

How do these numebrs exist in an OT game?!?!

 

[SoulPlaya]

The difference is, we were heading into the Playoffs on a hot streak last year. This year, we are playing like shit as a team.

Partly it has to do with Spo's coaching.

An easy first round series will do the trick.

 

[AlphaSnake]

OK, now wait a minute. The Bulls beat the Heat in every single meeting they had last season, and lost 4-1 in the playoffs. This win means nothing. Although, it does suggest that the Bulls would be better off WITHOUT Rose when facing the Heat. The Heat don't know how to plan defensively for them, and ball movement is better.

I'm talking about this season.

 

[Onemic]

Hey, how many times did the Heat beat the Bulls in the regular season last year? Oh.

That last game they played last season in which they won was pretty telling as to what would probably happen in the playoffs. Besides last season was last season.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

INBEFORELOLROSE

That's why you don't gut a whole bench for a player.

(think the Heat players were totally out of gas at the end)

You're too late.

Btw, Rose kept the Heat in the game tonight.

 

[dream]

The difference is, we were heading into the Playoffs on a hot streak last year. This year, we are playing like shit as a team.

Partly it has to do with Spo's coaching.

firespo.com?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Bro I was totally correct about Rose last year

Time to admit it

There's no admitting anything about Rose, he's a top player in the league and took over many a game this year against good opponents.

The team has just found a sense of urgency without him out there as they have no one to bail them out so they are taking it on themselves to play with energy and are forced to hit shots.

Like Rip said, they can't win a championship wihtout Derrick.

 

[SoulPlaya]

I'm talking about this season.

But the premise still holds true.

 

[PBY]

There's no admitting anything about Rose, he's a top player in the league and took over many a game this year against good opponents.

The team has just found a sense of urgency without him out there as they have no one to bail them out so they are taking it on themselves to play with energy and are forced to hit shots.

Like Rip said, they can't win a championship wihtout Derrick.

UGH. I audibly groaned.

 

[Vire]

An easy first round series will do the trick.

I hope you are right, but I'm not feeling as confident as the past season.

I had my "We Already Won" T-shirts printed out about this time last year.

firespo.com?

I said Spo has got to go about a week after the All Star break.

 

[Tom Penny]

*yawn*

His fantastic aggressive play in the 4th quarters of the Finals was fantastic. Just wandering around the perimeter doing nothing to the tune of like a 3 point average.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Shane Battier -30
CJ Watson +38

How do these numebrs exist in an OT game?!?!

Surprised that Battier didn't even put up a shot.

Oh wait, I think he took one(possibly 2) and it wasn't his customary open three from the corner.

 

[SoulPlaya]

I hope you are right, but I'm not feeling as confident as the past season.

I had my "We Already Won" T-shirts printed out about this time last year.

Really? That's when I had my "Blame Rose, Not Boozer" shirt made.

 

[ph33nix]

who gives a shit

it's the first half of april

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

UGH. I audibly groaned.

Did you hold your eye as well???

 

[MiamiWesker]

The Bulls have only lost to the Heat once...Bulls vs Heat is Bulls all day. Bulls vs Celtics is Bulls all day too.

There are other teams the Bulls are weak against, but the Celtics and Heat aren't one of them.

And this happened last year and we blew them to pieces in the playoffs last year.

 

[linsivvi]

See- this is my issue. If you show me that statistically, Lebron's touches/shots in the paint, etc etc decrease dramatically for whatever reason in the last 5 minutes, then I'll have to accept that.

BUT, when you take me to body language university, cherry pick one play to someone get a read on whats going on inside Lebron's head, and argue that he "shows no excitement or emotion" I have to call you out on how ridiculous you sound.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=jamesle01&year_id=2012

Quarter FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
1st 171 294 .582 6 14 .429 .592 81 .474
2nd 95 157 .605 5 15 .333 .621 40 .421
3rd 163 314 .519 19 47 .404 .549 58 .356
4th 78 169 .462 8 27 .296 .485 24 .308
OT 2 14 .143 1 6 .167 .179 1 .500

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

And this happened last year and we blew them to pieces in the playoffs last year.

Must have watched a different series.

4-1 yes, every game close???

Basically.

Bulls blew them out first game and choked last game.

Heat won fair and square but "blew them to pieces" is going by the series score and that alone.

 

[Vire]

And this happened last year and we blew them to pieces in the playoffs last year.

Pretty much, the entire regular season last year was "THE HEAT CAN'T BEAT THE ELITE TEAMS IN THE EAST".

Then the Playoffs happened.

 

[giri]

And this happened last year and we blew them to pieces in the playoffs last year.

i'm not sure blew them to pieces is the way i'd have described it.

 

[reggieandTFE]

I loved that CJ was laughing after tying the game, no mean-mugging or chest-pumping, just enjoying himself.

Also, the Bulls +/- numbers...

Rose... -24
Noah... -21
Boozer...-15

and

CJ...+38
Taj... +28
Korver...+24
Asik...+20

 

[Tom Penny]

Pretty much, the entire regular season last year was "THE HEAT CAN'T BEAT THE ELITE TEAMS IN THE EAST".

Then the Playoffs happened.

Hopefully this year Wade won't try to break Rondo's arm and make it interesting.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I loved that CJ was laughing after tying the game, no mean-mugging or chest-pumping, just enjoying himself.

Also, the Bulls +/- numbers...

Rose... -24
Noah... -21
Boozer...-15

and

CJ...+38
Taj... +28
Korver...+24
Asik...+20

Noah bothers me the most, the fuck is his problem???

He was playing so well and now he's playing so terribly.

 

[SoulPlaya]

I loved that CJ was laughing after tying the game, no mean-mugging or chest-pumping, just enjoying himself.

Also, the Bulls +/- numbers...

Rose... -24
Noah... -21
Boozer...-15

and

CJ...+38
Taj... +28
Korver...+24
Asik...+20

Boozer played a great game. He was the only starter that showed up, besides maybe Deng.

Noah bothers me the most, the fuck was his problem???

He was playing so well and now he's playing so terribly.

Noah is a worthless bitch. I told you to trade him at the beginning of the season, didn't I? lol

 

[MiamiWesker]

The difference is, we were heading into the Playoffs on a hot streak last year. This year, we are playing like shit as a team.

Partly it has to do with Spo's coaching.

Yep this, its a bad time to look like we are lost. I have lost confidence with Spo as well. This team looks no better than last year, we still have no offensive scheme.

 

[MiamiWesker]

i'm not sure blew them to pieces is the way i'd have described it.

4-1 is a pretty easy series win. I know many games were close but still 4-1, 4 straight wins.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Boozer played a great game. He was the only starter that showed up, besides maybe Deng.



Noah is a worthless bitch. I told you to trade him at the beginning of the season, didn't I? lol

Boozer was on a roll in the first and then Thibs took him out, left me shaking my head.

He played well as did Deng.

Deng still throws up bricks but then hits big shots.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Freaking fellow Heatles. Chill. The squad has this. LeBron has the MVP wrapped up. He's getting some nice experience leading up to the playoffs. Nobody in the league is going to stop him, including the Bulls (we saw how that went last year). Spo got this. MVP got this. Best offensive big man got this. Fla$h Mob got this.

 

[Vahagn]

See- this is my issue. If you show me that statistically, Lebron's touches/shots in the paint, etc etc decrease dramatically for whatever reason in the last 5 minutes, then I'll have to accept that.

BUT, when you take me to body language university, cherry pick one play to someone get a read on whats going on inside Lebron's head, and argue that he "shows no excitement or emotion" I have to call you out on how ridiculous you sound.

What in the world are you smoking?


Dude disappeared in the fourth quarter of the finals last year averaging only 2 points.


Look up his stats since he went to Miami in the last 5 minutes of a close game, and then look at his stats for game winning, tying shots...and tell me it's not abysmal.


How have you not seen this chart about game winning shots in the last 5 seconds?

or this from last season?

You're just not watching the game, and the stats don't back you up. Lebron back in Cleveland had some decent regular season clutch stats...in Miami, he's been abysmal. Statistically and with the eye test.

 

[reggieandTFE]

Noah bothers me the most, the fuck is his problem???

He was playing so well and now he's playing so terribly.

I think he was hungover as shit on Sunday after spending Sat. night in the NYC.

 

[Vire]

Freaking fellow Heatles. Chill. The squad has this. LeBron has the MVP wrapped up. He's getting some nice experience leading up to the playoffs. Nobody in the league is going to stop him, including the Bulls (we saw how that went last year). Spo got this. MVP got this. Best offensive big man got this. Fla$h Mob got this.

Yep, I'm mad.

 

[DY_nasty]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=jamesle01&year_id=2012

Quarter FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
1st 171 294 .582 6 14 .429 .592 81 .474
2nd 95 157 .605 5 15 .333 .621 40 .421
3rd 163 314 .519 19 47 .404 .549 58 .356
4th 78 169 .462 8 27 .296 .485 24 .308
OT 2 14 .143 1 6 .167 .179 1 .500

holy fuck

 

[StickSoldier]

Pretty much, the entire regular season last year was "THE HEAT CAN'T BEAT THE ELITE TEAMS IN THE EAST".

Then the Playoffs happened.

until they showed their true self and choked in the finals

 

[SoulPlaya]

Boozer was on a roll in the first and then Thibs took him out, left me shaking my head.

He played well as did Deng.

Deng still throws up bricks but then hits big shots.

Thibs sucks on offense, Deng is alright, and fuck Noah.

 

[xnipx]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=jamesle01&year_id=2012

Quarter FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
1st 171 294 .582 6 14 .429 .592 81 .474
2nd 95 157 .605 5 15 .333 .621 40 .421
3rd 163 314 .519 19 47 .404 .549 58 .356
4th 78 169 .462 8 27 .296 .485 24 .308
OT 2 14 .143 1 6 .167 .179 1 .500

Well there it is. Play Bron in the 1st and 3rd only??
How do u solve this??

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Thibs sucks on offense, Deng is alright, and fuck Noah.

 

[Tom Penny]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=jamesle01&year_id=2012

Quarter FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
1st 171 294 .582 6 14 .429 .592 81 .474
2nd 95 157 .605 5 15 .333 .621 40 .421
3rd 163 314 .519 19 47 .404 .549 58 .356
4th 78 169 .462 8 27 .296 .485 24 .308
OT 2 14 .143 1 6 .167 .179 1 .500

I don't get the 4th quarter shot attempts. I can see his shot attempts going down in the 2nd quarter because he's on the bench more but why in the 4th?

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I love how Vince just stood there and looked at the other guys jumping and jumping, and jumping again.

 

[DY_nasty]

Well there it is. Play Bron in the 1st and 3rd only??
How do u solve this??

i don't even fucking know

1-888-45-MAURY ?

 

[SoulPlaya]

He's coming around too.

 

[Onemic]

Pretty much, the entire regular season last year was "THE HEAT CAN'T BEAT THE ELITE TEAMS IN THE EAST".

Then the Playoffs happened.

I think you're only taking certain parts of last season in mind, specifically early in the season. When the Heat played and destroyed Boston their last two meetings, it was obvious what would happen in the playoffs. When the Heat played and won their last meeting with the bulls it was obvious that the bulls weren't as invincible against the heat as thought and they had found ways to secure Rose. Of course those same openings they found in that last game showed up in the playoffs with rose being completely shut down. This season it has been the complete opposite.

 

[xnipx]

i don't even fucking know

1-888-45-MAURY ?

2/14 in overtime too. How many overtime games have they played this year??

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

You folks need to lay of LeBron. Seriously. He's doing all he can. Realize that he has king douche on his team. It's amazing that Bron is having the season he is with having to play next to the douchebag of douchebags.

 

[pilonv1]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shooting.cgi?player_id=jamesle01&year_id=2012

Quarter FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
1st 171 294 .582 6 14 .429 .592 81 .474
2nd 95 157 .605 5 15 .333 .621 40 .421
3rd 163 314 .519 19 47 .404 .549 58 .356
4th 78 169 .462 8 27 .296 .485 24 .308
OT 2 14 .143 1 6 .167 .179 1 .500

Look at that Assisted % in the 2nd half. Too much LeIso

 

[PBY]

I think you're only taking certain parts of last season in mind, specifically early in the season. When the Heat played and destroyed Boston their last two meetings, it was obvious what would happen in the playoffs. When the Heat played and won their last meeting with the bulls it was obvious that the bulls weren't as invincible against the heat as thought and they had found ways to secure Rose. Of course those same openings they found in that last game showed up in the playoffs with rose being completely shut down. This season it has been the complete opposite.

that didn't happen?

 

[linsivvi]

Lebron makes more FGs than Kobe except 4th quarter and OT, and Kobe shoots 40% in the 4th. How the fuck is that possible?

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I see now that the Lakers are gone, the 5pur5 can start winning again.

 

[Tom Penny]

Lebron makes more FGs than Kobe except 4th quarter and OT, and Kobe shoots 40% in the 4th. How the fuck is that possible?

It's not about scoring. It's about making the right basketball play.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

It's not about scoring. It's about making the right basketball play.

Like that time he had 9 TOs in a closeout game against Baaaaaaw-ston?