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Well it's not as simple as that though is it. It's creating life that - it they do know what they're doing - is a highly mutated form of predator that was breeded specifically to destroy lite. So the purpose behind the specific creation of this life is because it's much more effective at destruction than anyone else is.
THE-Pink-Dagger
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What is interesting is that (and you can see it with a screencap in the HD trailer) is that the 3 sarcophogi next to the Engineer's are all bursted, 3 holes at the exact same spot. So, what killed them?! Ancestor of facehugger?
And why is the Last Engineer the last one precisely, how did he make it. Was everyone contaminated, and he managed to avoid it and put himself in cryo not to ne harmed?!
People are saying that the movie doesnt give answers, and that it's a cope out, but if we had all the answers, we wouldnt be having this passionnate thread, with theories all around, this is the mystery, use your imagination in every possible way.
And why is the Last Engineer the last one precisely, how did he make it. Was everyone contaminated, and he managed to avoid it and put himself in cryo not to ne harmed?!
People are saying that the movie doesnt give answers, and that it's a cope out, but if we had all the answers, we wouldnt be having this passionnate thread, with theories all around, this is the mystery, use your imagination in every possible way.
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Edward or Ellen should be next then.
THE-Pink-Dagger
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Well its effects vary depending on what the plot wanted it to do but for the most part it seems to provoke rapid evolution through mutation with highly aggressive survival instinct.
Just drop a load of it on a planet and leave it to its own devices? Yeah, it would work as a WMD against whatever was there but it's just a tad wreckless. And even more bizarre when it involves the species you created and have waited millions of years to do it. For shits and giggles? Ok, why not we have to assume so much already. Because those creatures sure as Hell aren't leaving that planet, although leave it long enough and who knows!
As explained on the previous page I wish they'd just taken a less literal and more subtle approach with the themes and then you wouldn't have all these problems opening up and a lot more freedom with where to go with it.
Althought this is a better idea than what is actually in Prometheus. A more vague opening where something that looks like the current Engineer is found to just be an early form of a human being and maybe seen dotted around the ship as part of failed experiments to create a truly intelligent being as opposed to the perfect physical specimen.
So you could have it looking at a spaceship like the Engineer's one, forced to kill itself with the goo (modified by the real Engineers, the elephantine figures) so that human beings can be created.
I think it's odd in the actual film how the goo
when combined with the Engineer presumably creates all life as opposed to just humans, it might have been a little clearer if there were fish or dinosaurs or monkeys knocking around; it would have then denied the theory of Darwinism (assuming monkeys had been collected before by the real Engineers and used in experiments) as well as posed 'well if they only made humans, who made the rest? Was it them as well?'
From that any title sequence could have been this CGI or animated sequence of the stone carvings from throughout history being reenacted on the stone; humans meeting elephantine Engineers who they believe are their gods, who come and collect husbands and wives and children and take them away for further experiment. Maybe the map/invitation is based on the fact that with constant experimentation humans will eventually evolve (or are engineered) to become intelligent enough to meet their maker, and the Engineers welcome this, a chance to toast their success. Shaw believes its a god but she's so intrigued by its elephant appearance she doesn't know how that fits into her Christian belief system.
You could still have the goo be a natural chemical in the experimentation of creating life, it being a modifier of cells. But perhaps white goo is found somewhere, dried and obviously out of use, where the black goo has taken over; thousands of years of experimentation on such a hostile planet as led to the organic and synthetic combining to create a liquid capable of unpredictable destruction.
Still have the humanoid current Engineer as a remnant of the real Engineer's failures and still have it attack and be angry and on the loose, but then don't pretend it's an intelligent creature. Perhaps bodies of these 9 foot humanoids are found all around still without armour and helmets and the crew identify it as early experiments to create humankind.
The whole point in the end of inviting the humans though, would be to test their once most treasured creation against their newest ones; the xenomorphs.
So in the end there'll be a pack of rabid dogs (and whales), angry violent humans with exploding heads and a bunch of xenomorphs. Okay, sure, you've pretty much destroyed mankind as we know it, but what's the point with a planet that's even more hostile and filled with creatures even harder to kill? Are they planning to use this in a civil war against other Engineers? How will they take over the conquered regions? Develop a new virus?
Kind of reminds me of that Simpsons episode. You know, let's release snakes to eat up the eggs, and then let's release snake eating gorilla's to eat the snakes. And then, I don't know anymore.
Maybe you're right though. They could be scientists, always playing God and creating life forms in order to conquer their last one, so that they can revel in their power to engineer something that is stronger and more intelligent every time (kind of like David; stronger than humans, cleverer than humans, but looked on as a plaything). The downside is they finally created something that was too powerful for even them.
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Am I the only one who is really looking forward to the sequel, simply because it will be about only two characters? The two best characters.
A space adventure with Shaw and David. It's going to be so great.
Everyone should watch this film multiple times, simply because of the chances of this happening.
A space adventure with Shaw and David. It's going to be so great.
Everyone should watch this film multiple times, simply because of the chances of this happening.
Maybe a war against other life forms In other parts of the galaxy and maybe beyond.
Saw this yesterday morning and have been contemplating how I felt about it since. Ultimately, like many people here, I'm slightly disappointed, but not by the themes Scott and the writers attempted to tackle or what it means for the Alien universe (I think not having clear answers for that and debating it is cool and probably what Scott intended), rather at the execution of it and how easily it could have been done right and made much more subtle and gripping.
The number one problem was the amount of characters in the film - the crew was simply too big and there were just too many unnecessary people who undercut the tension and made it impossible for the key characters to properly develop. The scottish female doctor, the biologist, the pilot and navigator, the security guys... all of these could have been removed and nothing would have been lost (although I suppose perhaps either the pilot or navigator could remain). As a perfect example of not only their pointlessness but also the second major problem - the script - in one convenient scene, the scanning of the Engineer, we see the medical screen tell us something like "Decontamination complete, no problems."... which is then repeated verbatim by the scottish doctor.
There are moments like that throughout, characters, who don't really need to be there, speaking largely redundant lines. This also plays into the most annoying scenes in the movie, where characters seem to act not only against any established personality traits (however slim), but also against basic common sense as well... how the hell did the biologist and geologist get lost (his scanners had mapped their location and he had access to that map, he didn't even need to radio back to the Prometheus, earlier when they were all together before the storm he was the one giving them directions!)? Why would the biologist (or anyone for that matter!), who had earlier clearly shown his sense of fear and not wanting to touch anything or be there at all, suddenly be blase about a slimy creature in a cobra like stance and move towards it as though he's trying to feed a puppy?
...anyway the list goes on. To go back to my original point, I really believe that if the film simply contained Shaw, Holloway, David, Vickers, the Captain, the geologist, and perhaps the pilot and Weyland then that would have been perfect and avoided pretty much all of this.
Side note - I think the score was on the whole quite terrible and not in keeping with the tone of the movie at all, almost as if it was written for a different movie at times.
Saying all of that, I didn't leave the cinema completely unhappy, it is still an enjoyable movie that tackles really interesting themes / questions, has a couple of great performances, and obviously looks great. Just a shame they couldn't execute it better and its flaws are so visible.
The number one problem was the amount of characters in the film - the crew was simply too big and there were just too many unnecessary people who undercut the tension and made it impossible for the key characters to properly develop. The scottish female doctor, the biologist, the pilot and navigator, the security guys... all of these could have been removed and nothing would have been lost (although I suppose perhaps either the pilot or navigator could remain). As a perfect example of not only their pointlessness but also the second major problem - the script - in one convenient scene, the scanning of the Engineer, we see the medical screen tell us something like "Decontamination complete, no problems."... which is then repeated verbatim by the scottish doctor.
There are moments like that throughout, characters, who don't really need to be there, speaking largely redundant lines. This also plays into the most annoying scenes in the movie, where characters seem to act not only against any established personality traits (however slim), but also against basic common sense as well... how the hell did the biologist and geologist get lost (his scanners had mapped their location and he had access to that map, he didn't even need to radio back to the Prometheus, earlier when they were all together before the storm he was the one giving them directions!)? Why would the biologist (or anyone for that matter!), who had earlier clearly shown his sense of fear and not wanting to touch anything or be there at all, suddenly be blase about a slimy creature in a cobra like stance and move towards it as though he's trying to feed a puppy?
...anyway the list goes on. To go back to my original point, I really believe that if the film simply contained Shaw, Holloway, David, Vickers, the Captain, the geologist, and perhaps the pilot and Weyland then that would have been perfect and avoided pretty much all of this.
Side note - I think the score was on the whole quite terrible and not in keeping with the tone of the movie at all, almost as if it was written for a different movie at times.
Saying all of that, I didn't leave the cinema completely unhappy, it is still an enjoyable movie that tackles really interesting themes / questions, has a couple of great performances, and obviously looks great. Just a shame they couldn't execute it better and its flaws are so visible.
I hope she ties his head to her belt like in Lollipop Chainsaw.
Makes you wonder though why they were apparently planning (over millions and millions of years) to use humans, their own DNA match, as testing species. If it's against far-removed, different lifeforms, then why test your virus against yourself?
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Yes! So ridiculous.
I've already pre-ordered that one. Can't wait.
I've already pre-ordered that one. Can't wait.
This is almost completely representative of how I felt about the film. I think I liked it more than you, but the extraneous dialogue with the Scottish doctor, the dialogue of the two co-pilots, the overbearing music, they're the three things I criticised immediately coming out of the cinema.
What's so frustrating to me is that I think I - and a number of you - could take the shooting script and turn it into something fantastic. I'd do something like I said a few posts above, just a few lines explaining different motivations, changing the appearance of the actual Engineers but still having the humanoid figures, taking out dialogue where it's unnecessary, taking out the Shaw as a child sequence... There's the foundations of a magnificent movie there.
Salvor.Hardin
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I absolutely loved the Weyland being alive twist. So fucking pulpy and it wasn't a very conventional Hollywood thing to do. This movie was bold as fuck and I loved it for it.
JimiNutz
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If the engineers were at war and were experimenting with the DNA altering goo for weapon purposes, then who were they at war with and did they ever get to use their weapon?
I hope this is explored in sequels.
I like the idea that the goo creates life but each creation is more violent than the last and the created lifeform then wants to kill its 'Father'.
Imagine what would happen if a xenomorph got infected with the goo...would something even more violent and deadly be created?
I hope this is explored in sequels.
I like the idea that the goo creates life but each creation is more violent than the last and the created lifeform then wants to kill its 'Father'.
Imagine what would happen if a xenomorph got infected with the goo...would something even more violent and deadly be created?
StalkerUKCG
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Eh, my expectations for the movie were too high.
It wasn't bad movie in anyway but it just wasn't great either. Maybe I was expecting more of another claustrophobia, dark and gritty space horror film, this wasn't one
The movie your asking for is Pandorum
I enjoyed Transformers.
Yes exactly. As you say, the foundations for something truly excellent are there.
Messypandas
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If i had a major complaint, it is that the movie should have been darker and more sinister. You have the decor of an industrialised 10th level of hell and yet you have hopeful score and characters constantly shooting the shit with light-hearted banter. It was like the film was afraid the audience was going to reflect on the darker nature of events going on. I mean the crew at the end decide to sacrifice themselves to ground the ship on LV223. Very noble, but did we seriously need the little quips before hand? A little gravity to the situation might have helped.
Charlie being infected was an interesting twist but why wasn't it better realised? This character was the love of the protagonists life yet burnt down and handily removed from the films narrative within 10 minutes. People are right when they say the makers of a truly great film were here, but the execution was so ham-fisted and non-sensical. Cut the crew down to 7 and make a focused film.
Charlie being infected was an interesting twist but why wasn't it better realised? This character was the love of the protagonists life yet burnt down and handily removed from the films narrative within 10 minutes. People are right when they say the makers of a truly great film were here, but the execution was so ham-fisted and non-sensical. Cut the crew down to 7 and make a focused film.
MarshMellow96
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Went to see it last night with my girlfriend (who absolutely hated it) and I've been thinking about it pretty much since then. Obviously, a lot has been discussed in this thread already, so I thought I'd just add some smaller impressions/ideas.
I felt like the movie wasn't sure how to begin. Does it start off in space a la Alien, or go full on exposition like Aliens? I almost feel like the movie would have benefited from including the TED talk somewhere before the ship was introduced..
Firstly, I have to say that the scoring of the Holloway infection discovery scene was awful. It sounded like something out of Scary Movie and totally removed any tension or feelings of dread that I may have had.
I seem to recall David saying that the ship was due to head for Earth before the 'black goo' outbreak. I really liked the idea that humanity was on 'borrowed time' (if the Engineers were, indeed, coming to infect the entire planet), and that the only real reason for humanity's advancement could well have been because of what happened on that ship. Obviously, that doesn't deal with the reason why the Engineer was in cryo, but neither does the film.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but the scene in which Milburn and Fifield are killed basically happens because the former is showing off - essentially saying 'look how fucking good I am at my discipline I can tame aliens bro'. He's probably grown up in a world where the motto of humanity is 'we are the gods now', but I guess he turns out to be pretty wrong just like Weyland.
- The 'Birth' scene felt utterly forced, and I cannot envisage that being part of Ridley's plan at all. It was so inelegant. That one had Fox's stench all over it (see the end of AvP1). - especially when they gave Ratts Tyerell a cameo.
Some other stuff I might expand upon some other time...
- Vickers was massively overcompensating. I don't feel like her character was underdeveloped, as such. The delivery of 'father' was a little hammy, however.
- It felt the Engineer attacked to protect 'black goo' from potentially falling into hands of humans. That or, as others have said, the livestock approach.
- The Engineer ship flying off at the end was a little much. Am I right in understanding that is ostensibly Shaw and David flying off into space?
I felt like the movie wasn't sure how to begin. Does it start off in space a la Alien, or go full on exposition like Aliens? I almost feel like the movie would have benefited from including the TED talk somewhere before the ship was introduced..
Firstly, I have to say that the scoring of the Holloway infection discovery scene was awful. It sounded like something out of Scary Movie and totally removed any tension or feelings of dread that I may have had.
I seem to recall David saying that the ship was due to head for Earth before the 'black goo' outbreak. I really liked the idea that humanity was on 'borrowed time' (if the Engineers were, indeed, coming to infect the entire planet), and that the only real reason for humanity's advancement could well have been because of what happened on that ship. Obviously, that doesn't deal with the reason why the Engineer was in cryo, but neither does the film.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but the scene in which Milburn and Fifield are killed basically happens because the former is showing off - essentially saying 'look how fucking good I am at my discipline I can tame aliens bro'. He's probably grown up in a world where the motto of humanity is 'we are the gods now', but I guess he turns out to be pretty wrong just like Weyland.
- The 'Birth' scene felt utterly forced, and I cannot envisage that being part of Ridley's plan at all. It was so inelegant. That one had Fox's stench all over it (see the end of AvP1). - especially when they gave Ratts Tyerell a cameo.
Some other stuff I might expand upon some other time...
- Vickers was massively overcompensating. I don't feel like her character was underdeveloped, as such. The delivery of 'father' was a little hammy, however.
- It felt the Engineer attacked to protect 'black goo' from potentially falling into hands of humans. That or, as others have said, the livestock approach.
- The Engineer ship flying off at the end was a little much. Am I right in understanding that is ostensibly Shaw and David flying off into space?
Messypandas
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And owing to the fact that its just David's head flying the fucking thing... what is he using his mouth on the steering wheel? I can already hear the cheesy sequel taglines. "When you're lost in space... sometimes you need a little head... The adventures of Shaw and David-Head continue"
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Oh c'mon he can instruct her
Shrike_Priest
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Has this idea been brought up?:
Opening sequence Engineer seeds life on earth as part of a research process. That scene is the moment where the engineers for the first time succeed in creating life. The fact that he kills himself is odd, but could be chalked down to ceremony or that the goo would need DNA/building blocks to start with. At this point in history, they aren't trying to weaponize the goo. They're just trying to create life from scratch (like geneticists are doing now).
Earth = proof of concept.
Fast forward thousands of years. They've had time to perfect their genetics-skills to the point where they can weaponize it. Or they've known how to do it for ages, but only now have they found a reason to weaponize. And what better place to test it than their first proof of concept site? At this point they are unsure of how it works, and the reason they're sending it to earth is that they know that it's dangerous and don't want to test it on their home planet or somewhere it might spread. Earth around year zero is a perfect place, no interstellar travel, DNA is similar to their own etc.
After a few days now, I'd say the problems the movie had for me were simply four or five lines of dialogue. "Father", "I can't create life." "With all due respect, you're a crap pilot etc.", Shaw's sterility scene is obviously important since she ends up giving birth to the facehugger, but I just think it came off as a bit, off.
The line "...Father" and the pilots' banter were just pure cheese that should have been taken out. All this muddyness as to how exactly it works is really beside the point, even if it's fun to speculate.
If one is really bothered about the birthing cycle, it's not hard to give it a fan wank type explanation. The goo is constantly evolving and thus changes the characteristics of the cycle. Presto!
Opening sequence Engineer seeds life on earth as part of a research process. That scene is the moment where the engineers for the first time succeed in creating life. The fact that he kills himself is odd, but could be chalked down to ceremony or that the goo would need DNA/building blocks to start with. At this point in history, they aren't trying to weaponize the goo. They're just trying to create life from scratch (like geneticists are doing now).
Earth = proof of concept.
Fast forward thousands of years. They've had time to perfect their genetics-skills to the point where they can weaponize it. Or they've known how to do it for ages, but only now have they found a reason to weaponize. And what better place to test it than their first proof of concept site? At this point they are unsure of how it works, and the reason they're sending it to earth is that they know that it's dangerous and don't want to test it on their home planet or somewhere it might spread. Earth around year zero is a perfect place, no interstellar travel, DNA is similar to their own etc.
After a few days now, I'd say the problems the movie had for me were simply four or five lines of dialogue. "Father", "I can't create life." "With all due respect, you're a crap pilot etc.", Shaw's sterility scene is obviously important since she ends up giving birth to the facehugger, but I just think it came off as a bit, off.
The line "...Father" and the pilots' banter were just pure cheese that should have been taken out. All this muddyness as to how exactly it works is really beside the point, even if it's fun to speculate.
If one is really bothered about the birthing cycle, it's not hard to give it a fan wank type explanation. The goo is constantly evolving and thus changes the characteristics of the cycle. Presto!
1. Millions of years.
2. Why the star map and cave drawings?
MarshMellow96
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Haha, it did have a bit of Lollipop Chainsaw about it. I was referring more to the time it took them to seemingly get to another ship. It was like 'drive off into the distance, hit another launch pad, fly off' in about 10 seconds. Given how long it took them to get into the bowels of the first ship it seemed a little, I don't know.. off? Even if they ran straight there, Shaw is nursing an injury (apparently) and it's also possible that the other ships had Engineers in cryo in close proximity to the flight controls. I guess the whole crew wasn't exactly worried about any ramifications in the first place.. why stop now?
Also, I can imagine David using Shaw to 'fix himself' at a certain point, but that does seem a little far-fetched.
I still enjoyed it anyway. More questions than answers, but questions I would like answered nonetheless.
Shrike_Priest said:
The different form of dress (as you say, could be ceremonial) and a different 'class' of starship are interesting here (aside - was anyone else kind of put off by the manner in which it exited the atmosphere?). It could be put down to 'millions of years' of advancement, but it could also work with the theory that the 'croissant' is military. As you say, you could spend hours fan wanking over this stuff.
Messypandas
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I know what you mean. There was very little exposition in the last 30 minutes and characters just seemed to appear in every situation they were required. I felt like the axe scene was very truncated. Was the only reason they had her pick it up for the trailers? Because she did fuck all with it. After defeating the engineer with the watchmen squid we cut to outside crying on the floor. Wouldn't the drive still been in her to get as far away from the pod as humanely possible? Or did she just decide to give up and lie down on the floor crying on her way from exiting the life raft for some reason the film didn't establish? I don't know because the film didn't tell me
I loved the theory that certain humans were imbued with the starmap location and that reaching it was the end of our evolutionary cycle which is why the engineers wanted to exterminate us. Very nega-Kubrick. It was a travesty how the film didn't discuss the relevancy or origin of the starmap
The Engineers are just like humans so suffer from the same flaws.
We created life in David just because we could. A life form in our image but considered lesser and controlled. We also created a new species of xenomorph/face hugger 'by accident'. That alien probably shares some human DNA as well.
I think there will be some symmetry here. Possibility that humanity is their David and was created deliberately to serve some purpose but we got out of control, or we were created by accident due to some guy committing suicide or offering a sacrifice to his gods.
Again the xenomorphs could have been deliberate creations that backfired or accidental creations. or maybe the engineers considered the xenomorphs to be their origin story and in the process of tracking them down wiped themselves out.
The WMD theory smells like bullshit, not least because they mentioned it in the film like a red herring.
We created life in David just because we could. A life form in our image but considered lesser and controlled. We also created a new species of xenomorph/face hugger 'by accident'. That alien probably shares some human DNA as well.
I think there will be some symmetry here. Possibility that humanity is their David and was created deliberately to serve some purpose but we got out of control, or we were created by accident due to some guy committing suicide or offering a sacrifice to his gods.
Again the xenomorphs could have been deliberate creations that backfired or accidental creations. or maybe the engineers considered the xenomorphs to be their origin story and in the process of tracking them down wiped themselves out.
The WMD theory smells like bullshit, not least because they mentioned it in the film like a red herring.
I think it's a great concept that it's a big trap, but it implies that:
1. They were already planning to kill us tens of thousands of years ago. Why didn't they do their WMD tests then?
2. They were seemingly going to kill us 2000 years ago, before we reached interstellar travel.
3. In the event that we do reach the target destination, as a fail-safe device, they were hoping that we would take these super-volatile canisters of black goo back home and then poison ourselves with it.
The WMD theory is what is suggested by the characters in the film, and it's the most obvious concept to explain the film, but when you get down to it, it's inconsistent and non-nonsensical. Either it's a red herring, or the writers simply got very messy with their script and changed their minds from time to time.
Say, does it make sense for Shaw to leave for those guys' homeworld instead of trying to go back home or be rescued?
I mean... It's not like there's any doubt the Weyland guys will want to know what the hell happened on LV-223 regardless of her *coughcheesealertcough* final transmission, so it can't be even be argued that decision of hers would keep mankind safe...
I mean... It's not like there's any doubt the Weyland guys will want to know what the hell happened on LV-223 regardless of her *coughcheesealertcough* final transmission, so it can't be even be argued that decision of hers would keep mankind safe...
(sure hope she saved tons of lembas bread, too)
LemonGremlin
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I'm still really confused about this film's score. As others have mentioned, the main theme is really uplifting and seems to have come from a completely different type of movie.
Right from the opening sequence it just didn't fit at all. Replace it with something like Alien, Shining or 2001 and you have a completely different and more thematically relevant feeling when that title appears.
I remember thinking the same thing in the sequence where David switches on the nav-computer / star map. Switch out the music for something more fitting there and you'd have an incredibly effective scene. What's so uplifting? What I'm seeing is pretty damn sinister!
I loved watching the film but my god it's a huge mess. Crosby Stills and Nash accordion, magic Zelda computer flute, "hey sweetie" cobra penis, post-cesarean nonchalance...list is endless.
Right from the opening sequence it just didn't fit at all. Replace it with something like Alien, Shining or 2001 and you have a completely different and more thematically relevant feeling when that title appears.
I remember thinking the same thing in the sequence where David switches on the nav-computer / star map. Switch out the music for something more fitting there and you'd have an incredibly effective scene. What's so uplifting? What I'm seeing is pretty damn sinister!
I loved watching the film but my god it's a huge mess. Crosby Stills and Nash accordion, magic Zelda computer flute, "hey sweetie" cobra penis, post-cesarean nonchalance...list is endless.
It's a sign of a classic that you can watch multiple times. Can't wait for the bluray and the extras galore!
What's uplifting? The fucking alien engineers first contact space travel is what is uplifting! The star map scene was bursting with the feel of adventure and limitless possibilities with david the grinning android
Thanks for that. Clears up some ambiguity for the first scene and the goo.
It's better that it's been explained as unpredictable rather than us just assuming its unpredictable to be fair.
33-Hit-Combo
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Depends if the breakdown of DNA was suicide or seeding lifeforms?
Why is it pointless if they have zero need for Earth, they can terraform can't they (or maybe not. Did the crew mean terraforming inside the 'cave' which turned out to be a fuggen ship with life support)? Test subjects, they meant to wipe us out thousands of years ago, but had an outbreak and they never came back. They could potentially have a way of wiping out Xenos from airspace, however they never managed to get off the ground.
1. Just because? I dunno, maybe they required matured humanoid lifeforms? I still think they wanted to harvest the surviving Xenos once Earth was overrun.
3. Are we suggesting the map was left by Engineers, or scribbled by humans? If humans, its obvious there's no way they could identify the constellation, so then it must be left by Engineers or there was interaction with Engineers which led humans to scribble it down.
Don't think it was done by Engineers unless they invented human languages. Leave down the constellation to spell doom of humans? Maybe these Engineers are a bit backwards and don't have the same logic as humans (why would they?). Why didn't they kill us humans then? Bigger picture- biological warfare development and grooming the test subjects.
Humans were never meant to reach them, especially if there was not an outbreak? As they would have descended 2000 years ago?
I haven't thought this all out... But once I got started I could nay go back.
Great, they're not saying the goo is a WMD. Also sort of confirms the opening as a ritual self-sacrifice in order to create life on other planets. Not some renegade runaway or an accident.
Egyptians and Incans weren't mature enough?
thanks... this has some nice information about the unknowns
It would probably be too evolved for it to affect it in any positive way. It would go the same way as the engineer at the start. The creations from its mutated dna would be different though, maybe stronger and deadlier.
I agree. Swap out that terrible theme music with the one from the trailer and those scenes would have been amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTvh...-9CwKcBGdrkWYrvG7a29H6bC&index=5&feature=plcp
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