Nintendo E3 2012 Conference Thread

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Beyond the fact that Nintendo was talking to a completely different audience than me this year I'm just disappointed in the lack of any surprises/megatons.

I think Nintendo Land and Scribblenauts were the only two Wii U games we didn't know about before hand and not a single new 3ds game was shown at the "showcase". Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
There has to be another major wii u event soon. It just occured to me but the nfc feature was hardly elaborated on. In the leaked rayman trailer there was a heavy emphasis on the action figures that the uPad could drop into the game. Given skylanders dissapearance I think nintendo is witholding discussing major features and games that highlight that. You know reggie/nintendo would spend 20 or more minutes blabbing about this feature and how "innovative" it is.
 
second day of wii u-related impressions.

so the day started over at pikmin 3. i spent a while doing the find mii stuff on my 3ds so i wouldn't be spoiled by the guy taking forever on the demo. i spent about 12 minutes at the demo. 7 for the main game stuff and 5 for a boss battle. i haven't played pikmin npc, but i picked up the controls and it was like second nature. point the controller at the screen, push a to call pikmin. push b to throw them. use the z button to switch between types (this one was explained to me).

i haven't played pikmin 2 in eight years, but i think there's a somewhat new thing that each day or area is ranked on how much pokos you can make back at your ship. by the end of the demo, the guy said i had gotten pretty far, so at 955 pokos, i probably did reasonably well. you can get a silver and a gold medal for the day/area (i forgot to ask). the boss fight was using the rock pikmin to break open the shell and the red pikmin to murder the thing. all-in-all, it's pikmin all right. it looks very nice in person, but it was also very obviously a wii game at some point. it's not a graphical showcase, but it retains its charm pretty well.

i checked out zombi u, more specifically, the part that was once killer freaks. i took control of the gamepad and placed zombies around the map. the guy playing the fps game on the cc pro went around trying to capture the flag while i was also using a zombie to capture the flag and using zombies to kill him. you can spend 3 or 4 points to create generic zombies that will hunt out the duder, and 10 points to create a zombie made to capture the flag/zone. you can also spend 12 points to create a superfast zombie. your points as the gamepad guy increase steadily over time. in the end, i won this segment, and then i watched someone play the single-player game.

aside from some weird stuff with the zombies vanishing in a puff of smoke sometimes, the single player was pretty tense, especially with the stakes being that one bite kills you. there are ways around it- you can stab a zombie with a syringe to kill it, or push it back and then aim carefully at the head. i think the longest runtime i saw someone do was about 13 minutes. it looks more like a survival horror game than a traditional first-person shooter. sure is ugly though.

also, the triggers on the back are definitely not analog. or if they are, they're barely analog. this is true of the gamepad and the cc pro. i made sure to double check before i left.

after zombi u i checked out project p-100 it's kinda got the feel of viewtiful joe but in 3d. you use the gamepad to draw a circle around civilians and add them to your gang. i didn't like this because there's no reference point, really. you also use the gamepad to draw up and up-and-right to draw a sword and gun respectively. if you use either one of those you can use it against enemies, but it depletes battery power. battery power can be rebuilt by mashing the x button which makes all the civilians rush the baddies and attack like pikmin. you can also defend and evade attacks as a group.

there was a part where you could go inside a building to solve a puzzle. the game then moved to the gamepad screen. i think everything involving the gamepad screen was pretty dumb and didn't need to happen. for instance, switching between types of civilian-weapons could have been done by pushing a shoulder button or even clicking an analog stick.

assassin's creed iii was also in the ubisoft booth, but it was only the mulitplayer. this was another capture the flag type thing. if you were in an area capturing and the other team showed up, you could only stun them. if another team showed up in your area, you could murder them. i had a couple of kills myself, although i took down many civilians on accident (assuming they were actually the other team). one guy did pretty well in stunning two of us, laying down a smoke bomb, and nearly vanishing before another guy from our team killed him. i liked the multiplayer.

the only single player game being played was one kiosk at the nintendo booth. and this was being manned by a ubisoft employee only so no one else could play. according to the guy at the booth, the wii u version is 720p, 30fps, and that is the same across all consoles. the game is the same across all consoles (aside from the gamepad stuff on the wii u), and it looks the same across all consoles. the single-player itself looks pretty nice. i jumped in with the second assassin's creed and was really unsure about the change in scenery, but after today, i'm more interested in seeing how it turns out. i thought it was cool how main character man escaped up a ship's sails, bouncing up the ropes to get there. i was worried that setting this new game in relatively new places like 100 year-old boston and new york would make for few rooftops and platforming to be done, but that appears not to be the case (mostly). i'll keep an eye on this as well.
 
There has to be another major wii u event soon. It just occured to me but the nfc feature was hardly elaborated on. In the leaked rayman trailer there was a heavy emphasis on the action figures that the uPad could drop into the game. Given skylanders dissapearance I think nintendo is witholding discussing major features and games that highlight that. You know reggie/nintendo would spend 20 or more minutes blabbing about this feature and how "innovative" it is.
Well, I think that's a given that we will get more detailed info closer to launch, whenever that will be precisely. I just hope that the Japan-focused Wii U software showcase that hopefully will be coming soon will shed more info.
 
There has to be another major wii u event soon. It just occured to me but the nfc feature was hardly elaborated on. In the leaked rayman trailer there was a heavy emphasis on the action figures that the uPad could drop into the game. Given skylanders dissapearance I think nintendo is witholding discussing major features and games that highlight that. You know reggie/nintendo would spend 20 or more minutes blabbing about this feature and how "innovative" it is.

See the links in my post above.

second day of wii u-related impressions.

Were you able to try out the M+ controls on Pikmin?
 
After all the hype and expectation, it's almost impossible not to be disappointed by Nintendo's E3 showing. Now that I look at the lineup though, it is nice to see that there's quite a few good games for launch window. The WiiU looks like it'll actually have a decent first few months. I just wish they showed us a few titles that'll be released later.

They really should have showed at least one or two of their big, fan-favourite games. What I mean by that is, they should have showed at least one of the following: 3D Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, or Retro's game. Even if it was just a 30 second trailer, it would have given us something awesome to look forward to. I don't care if I have to wait until after launch window, just show me that there are great games coming for the WiiU!

Pikmin 3 looks great and NSMBU looks to be a good selection for a launch title (and it looks much more interesting than NSMB2), but Nintendoland I'm unsure of. It's a cool idea, but the minigames they've showed so far don't look as fun and amazing as the sports in Wii Sports were. Hopefully the unannounced minigames are good.

I actually enjoyed the 3DS conference while I was watching it. It was more relaxed, and was all about information on games. I liked the Nate guy as a presenter too. But once it was over I was like, "wait... there were no new games announced! What the hell?!" It's ridiculous that not ONE first party game was announced for 3DS at E3. And they didn't even mention Animal Crossing! Paper Mario: Sticker Star had a great demo though. Made me even more excited for the game. Hope Intelligent Systems start work on a WiiU Paper Mario ASAP!

Overall, Paper Mario and Pikmin 3 were the highlights of E3 for me, by far.
 
No new games and not even Animal Crossing at the 3DS Conference? No info on the rumoured Good Feel Yoshi's Island? sigh

Is there any substance to the Good Feel Yoshi's Island or is that just pure speculation because it seems like it would make sense. :P I've never seen any actual rumors, just people saying that they should work on it.
 
Considering Nintendo's position, I really think their long term strategy of not showing their big games during this E3 is smart. They actually don't have much of a choice when you think about it.

If they showed what they were working on now, what would they have to reveal at E3 2013 when two big competitors reveal their new consoles and new games?

Obviously titles from Retro's or Monolith's are not launching this year. They will probably be ready starting late 2013, considering development time is now much longer than it was for the Wii. That goes for Zelda, Smash & a 3D Mario. Those are their big games, and they need to spread these games over the next 6 to 7 years.

That said, they do need enough momentum to establish a large user base prior to their competition. But I think they will more likely use third parties to get this going. Already we are hearing that EA will announce WiiU titles this Summer. We probably will see what Capcom and other japanese developers are working during TGS (like Dragon Quest)

And of course, Nintendo will have its own conference where they will announce price and the launch date. We will know more about online, and most likely they will highlight games for the first half of 2013. Which could include a couple of game reveals from their B teams.

Once Nintendo builds momentum a couple of months prior to launch, they will not want to let it go. That was their issue with 3DS, they lost momentum and sales dropped.
 
Considering Nintendo's position, I really think their long term strategy of not showing their big games during this E3 is smart. They actually don't have much of a choice when you think about it.

If they showed what they were working on now, what would they have to reveal at E3 2013 when two big competitors reveal their new consoles and new games?

They were in this situation for E3 2007, but nobody seemed to mind.

That said, I'm totally okay with it if they just announce these big games throughout the year and then go into further detail at E3 2013. Mostly because I want to see them sooner, but also because I'm now convinced E3 is kind of a waste for game announcements.
 
i don't think so. all the wii remote controls i was aware of were relegated to the pointer controls. however, dismissing pikmin required you to shake the nunchuk.

Is that the only way of doing it? In Pikmin 1/2 NPC you could do that with the C button on the nunchuk (whichever one is the top one).
 
Is there any substance to the Good Feel Yoshi's Island or is that just pure speculation because it seems like it would make sense. :P I've never seen any actual rumors, just people saying that they should work on it.

It was rumoured close to GDC 2011. IGN reported it IIRC but that obviously doesn't mean anything since it was just a report on a rumour. All that we ever heard of it, so yeah, maybe best to forget it for now.
 
i don't think so. all the wii remote controls i was aware of were relegated to the pointer controls. however, dismissing pikmin required you to shake the nunchuk.

Ok. I might be just misremembering what they said during the presser when it came to the M+ controller.
 
So after taking it all in I'm quite happy with what Nintendo showed at 3E. Yes the conference was boring but the game lineup is good. 2 2D Mario games, Paper Mario, Pikmin 3, Luigi's Manson,AC3, Batman AC ( yes), Aliens, and Project P100 are the games I'm looking forward to. Nintendoland , Lego City, ZombiU and Tanks are maybes.

That's not bad for such a boring E3 overall. It is very telling that a game like Watch Dog was not announced for the Wii U though. It’s also very strange that Nintendo is hold stuff back and having third parties do the same because it is not making the launch window. It just seems that way to me with the Madden and Fire Emblem announcements. Also when Black Opts 2 for Wii U was asked about the answer was it wasn’t announced yet. Nintendo is just wacky.


The biggest thing selling me on the Wii U right now is the extra screen allowing me to play games no matter who is using the TV. I don't think that is a good thing for Nintendo.
 
So after taking it all in I'm quite happy with what Nintendo showed at 3E. Yes the conference was boring but the game lineup is good. 2 2D Mario games, Paper Mario, Pikmin 3, Luigi's Manson,AC3, Batman AC ( yes), Aliens, and Project P100 are the games I'm looking forward to. Nintendoland , Lego City, ZombiU and Tanks are maybes.

That's not bad for such a boring E3 overall. It is very telling that a game like Watch Dog was not announced for the Wii U though. It’s also very strange that Nintendo is hold stuff back and having third parties do the same because it is not making the launch window. It just seems that way to me with the Madden and Fire Emblem announcements. Also when Black Opts 2 for Wii U was asked about the answer was it wasn’t announced yet. Nintendo is just wacky.


The biggest thing selling me on the Wii U right now is the extra screen allowing me to play games no matter who is using the TV. I don't think that is a good thing for Nintendo.

Ubisoft said that it isn't ruling out the possibility of porting Watch Dogs to Wii U. However, while Ubisoft admitted that even if it did, it wouldn't happen this year. Of course, Ubisoft once considered porting Red Steel to 360 and PS3 and that never happened Keep you're fingers crossed. I'm just not sure how thrilled Wii U fans will be to get such a late port unless it has redeeming new content. i mean, people had a negative reaction to Batman: Armored Edition. Anyway, It's understandable why third-parties have not heavily supporting board the Wii U yet. A lot of devs just want to finish up the current versions of their upcoming games before they decide if they'll want to port it to Wii U (especially since it's install base will be starting from scratch).
 
Ubisoft said that it isn't ruling out the possibility of porting Watch Dogs to Wii U. However, while Ubisoft admitted that even if it did, it wouldn't happen this year. Of course, Ubisoft once considered porting Red Steel to 360 and PS3 and that never happened Keep you're fingers crossed. I'm just not sure how thrilled Wii U fans will be to get such a late port unless it has redeeming new content. i mean, people had a negative reaction to Batman: Armored Edition. Anyway, It's understandable why third-parties have not heavily supporting board the Wii U yet. A lot of devs just want to finish up the current versions of their upcoming games before they decide if they'll want to port it to Wii U (especially since it's install base will be starting from scratch).

OK Hiltz, I think you have a point here. I just watched footage from Mario and it looks frankly top notch. I haven't seen a Mario game oozing that much quality since Super Mario World, and that is quite frankly telling.

What I want though is to be able to play games from third-parties, big like small and having the possibility to purchase all games I wanna buy on one console. Buying two or three consoles like I did this gen (+ one PC) is just plain bullshit. Thus, I want Star Wars, Final Fantasy XV and Battlefield 4 on WiiU without discussion.

Now, I want a positive sign from Nintendo: are their policies towards third-parties with WiiU good enough ? Everybody just shuts up when asked about that. And the relative lack of announcements on the 3DS side is not reassuring me. At all.
 
ZombiU will play a factor in ubisofts viewpoint. Even Yves hinted Watch Dog is possible but you can bet your ass they are looking at their Core game exclusive and testing
 
They were in this situation for E3 2007, but nobody seemed to mind.

??

There was a console reveal in 2007 ?


That said, I'm totally okay with it if they just announce these big games throughout the year and then go into further detail at E3 2013. Mostly because I want to see them sooner, but also because I'm now convinced E3 is kind of a waste for game announcements.


Yes, it still does seem to be in a difficult part of the year for developers to announce games.
 
Either I'm losing my edge or Nintendo has successfully bludgeoned me into submission with these awful conferences but now that I'm a little bit removed from the events themselves I'm fairly satisfied with the games Nintendo showed across the Wii U and 3ds.

At very least I know I'll have plenty of games to play on my 3ds through the rest of the year and a few Wii U games are growing on me.
 
Either I'm losing my edge or Nintendo has successfully bludgeoned me into submission with these awful conferences but now that I'm a little bit removed from the events themselves I'm fairly satisfied with the games Nintendo showed across the Wii U and 3ds.

At very least I know I'll have plenty of games to play on my 3ds through the rest of the year and a few Wii U games are growing on me.

Remember the E3 when they showed Animal Crossing for the Wii?
 
I have read in another forum that Nintendo is showing a game on Thursday @ 5:00pm pacific time...

Does anyone know anything?

Doesn't seem likely. If its Wii U they had both the main conference and the roundtable and whatever that Eguchi hardware talk thing was.

If its 3ds they already had the showcase.

And as far as Nintendo PR is concerned the wii is dead and not worth talking about. Roughly the same for ds.
 
Wasnt there this Nintendo 26,2 hours Facebook thingy, where they teased new Games?

Like "Oh boy, how many of these could be related to unannounced WiiU Games"? Something like that?

So? Did something get announced?
 
No, they were in a situation like your hypothetical E3 2013 where they'd already revealed most of the games they were going to show. If I remember right, Mario Kart and Wii Fit were the only big reveals.

Maybe a better example is when Kinect & Move was revealed and Nintendo had nothing to challenge it. But I could be mistaken.
 
Thats at the VERY end of E3. I'm calling a big reveal. I'll go farther and call a Retro game reveal.

I will call another awesome display of Nintendo Land, with minigame NUMBER SIX REVEALED!!
 
I am sorry, can you explain what you refer to ?

Nintendo announced that every hour (for 24 hours) they will announce some new feature of a WiiU-Game on facebook

Like they announced that there is Realtime-change of weapons in AC3 on the WiiU.


Before it started and they announced it, they said something like "Oh boy, I wonder how many of these Games, we will show you features of, are unannounced". Something like that.


Ah. Here it is:

E3 is a marathon, not a sprint. So we’re kicking off a marathon of game content! Starting right now, we’ll be delivering info about a new game every hour for the next 26.2 hours. Can you keep up? Don’t get left in the dust!

Strangely I can not find the part about the unannounced Games anymore...
And somehow the whole thing stopped 8 hours ago after mile 9.
 
Irrespective of whether there's another "show" or not Nintendo's handling of information has been absolutely dire. Two E3's in a row of complete shambles.
Yep, since last e3 people always stated that Nintendo was saving the Wii U announcements for a blow out for this e3...little did we know Nintendo wasn't announcing any thing because they had nothing to announce.
 
This happened when?

“… if I disclosed what Retro is doing, I would have the president of Retro literally calling me right now saying, ‘Reggie, what are you doing?’ We love that people are interested. We love surprising people. I remember getting the questions before we announced Donkey Kong Country Returns. And I loved unveiling that. So… Rest assured, the team is hard at work. But I’m not gonna tell you what they’re working on.”

http://nintendoeverything.com/90738/dont-expect-news-on-retro-studios-next-game-anytime-soon/
 
I was watching some interviews about Aliens Colonial Marines, and the CEO of Gearbox seems so excited about the WiiU version, both for the use of the gamepad and for the graphics capabilities of the console.

It still baffles me why Nintendo didn't choose this game for a live demo at their presentation, it is a great looking game and it would be so much better to demonstrate than Batman which is already out...

It would be nice to see how much better the WiiU version is graphically, because it was said that it will be the best looking console version.
 
Im leaving the software and hardware spec fad just a bit and choose to speculate about prices/bundling/included hardware and such.

Obviously since you can control the system with wiimotes and nunchucks one can guess that the classic controller pro will do just fine aswell instead of the U pro controller so from this i suspect:

The Wii U will be released with several different options (just like xbox arcade pro elite ultra megatron did)

1. Family/Full/Complete 499$
- Wii U Console
- 1 Upad
- 4 wiimote plus controllers
- Super Mario Bros U

2. Cheap/Barebone/For those with massive ammount of Wii accessories 299$
- Wii U Console
- 1 Upad

3. Basic/Average/top seller 350$
- Wii U Console
- 1 Upad
- 2 wiimote plus controllers
- Nintendoland

I don´t see any other solution but releasing different bundles since the backwards compability is so much in focus.
 
Edit: And on an irrelevant note, was it reported that the "touch" part of Upad's screen was updated, resulting in a more "capacitive" feeling?

Not fun quoting myself but since no-one replied I'm bringing it up again cause I think it's important.

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(comment from the ZombiU impressions over at Kotaku - don't know if the poster is on GAF)

Was this reported/confirmed?
 
Im leaving the software and hardware spec fad just a bit and choose to speculate about prices/bundling/included hardware and such.

Obviously since you can control the system with wiimotes and nunchucks one can guess that the classic controller pro will do just fine aswell instead of the U pro controller so from this i suspect:

The Wii U will be released with several different options (just like xbox arcade pro elite ultra megatron did)

1. Family/Full/Complete 499$
- Wii U Console
- 1 Upad
- 4 wiimote plus controllers
- Super Mario Bros U

2. Cheap/Barebone/For those with massive ammount of Wii accessories 299$
- Wii U Console
- 1 Upad

3. Basic/Average/top seller 350$
- Wii U Console
- 1 Upad
- 2 wiimote plus controllers
- Nintendoland

I don´t see any other solution but releasing different bundles since the backwards compability is so much in focus.

Yikes. That kind of bundling I could see being done at an individual retailer level, but I'd be surprised if Nintendo tried that.
 
Yep, since last e3 people always stated that Nintendo was saving the Wii U announcements for a blow out for this e3...little did we know Nintendo wasn't announcing any thing because they had nothing to announce.

nope, just because you didnt like what they announced, doesnt mean they didnt announce anything: Nintendoland, Tanks!, P-100, Pikmin 3, ZombiU, Wii Fit U, some Panorama junk, Game & Wario, and probably other things I can't think of...
 
Have just been going through the thread to see the reactions of people from the conference because I couldn't see it live.

Came across this and was amazed. The damage control is hilarious.

Guys...

All this shows is that many of Nintendo's studio's are still working.


RETRO'S GAME IS COMING.

MONOLITHSOFT'S GAME IS COMING.

3D MARIO IS COMING.

ZELDA IS COMING.

SMASH IS COMING.

ALL OF NINTENDO'S STUFF IS COMING.



This show showed nice 3rd party support.

Rayman Legends is an awesome exclusive.

ZombiU looked good, much better than expected.

Scribblenauts is awesome.

Mass Effect 3

Lego City Stories looked amazing, both creatively and graphically.

They are just showing launch stuff, Nintendo's has NintendoDirect now to show stuff as it's finished, and this was only half their stuff, we still get the 3DS conference tomorrow.

It wasn't the BEST conference for us, but Wii-U looked like it had an awesome launch selection for me.

I'm a Nintendo/PC gamer, i've never played an Assasins Creed, now I will. Batman will have the DLC and the new gameplay mechanics, i'm excited for that. Many Nintendo gamers haven't played MAss Effect, now they can. Darksiders is the definitive version...


How many console's can boast as awesome a launch lineup as

Pikmen 3
2D Mario
Assassins Creed 3
Rayman Legends (Exclusive 3rd party)
Lego City Stories (Exclusive 3rd Party
EA Sports games
Tekken Tag 2
Nintendo Land
Scribblenauts
ZombiU (exclusive 3rd party new IP)
Exlusive Platinum studios game published by Nintendo...

Awesome launch lineup.

Nintendo's big guns are absolutely coming, and what they showed looked super sweet.
 
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