killer_clank
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do the cyclists find out the time splits of their opponent?
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London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT2|
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Federer djokovic and nadal dont continously serve faults to make themselves lose.
Joel Was Right
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DQ was the default to be honest. I hope they are banned/sanctioned further. They've disgraced their country and embarrassed their team mates
Space age materials. They probably weigh like 5 pounds.
If their manager decides to tell them in the radio, yes.
Psychotext
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No. I imagine archery might get a few more players after the olympics though.
Are they allowed radios in the TT? They weren't in the road race.
There aren't any radio communications in the Olympics, I don't think.
Not that I agree with any of the 'tactics' these players use to gain advantage but surely they should look more at the way they structure and handle the draws etc for these matches. If you leave any kind of loophole like that someone is always going to try and pull one over. Disqualifying them temporarily 'solves' things but it just seems to be more of a moral issue than anything else as opposed to them operating outside the rules.
There is a difference between tanking a match - playing with the B-team, not fighting hard - and actually scoring own goals on purpose.
These girls hit the net on easy balls, hit the bird way out of the field. They played like juniors.
That's unacceptable.
I hope so. Very cheeky.
For real?
Psychotext
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Yeah, she should have known to change her position. Not much of an excuse.
I tried it when I was like 10 and didn't like it, but I want to try it again now. It looks so cool.
Panda In Space
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Obviously the weaker teams being salty and complain big time to the official so they have any chance of winning.
Seriously, there is no proof of them losing on purpose unless the officials have recorded media of them discussing of throwing matches.
You can only blame the match format.
Ahahaha did you even watch the matches?
BlindCommunication
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I think it's a very fine line. In this case, it was more obvious because both teams wanted to take it easy. Usually the qualified side will play a side eager to win so it won't look that suspicious. Badminton doesn't allow draws alas, otherwise I think this would have just been like a dour 0-0 between two already qualified teams.
It does happen in big tournaments though. Champions going down tamely in the third match or barely playing. France isn't a great team by any means, it was just a recent example of a team who knew they could settle for a loss and they did.
I think it's much more important to keep the best teams in the tournament. I'd rather have the top 8 seeds in the quarter finals than pairs who've lost 2 games out of 3.
KingItachi
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More interested in Judo, I love watching the men and women weight lifting.
Psychotext
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I could have beaten them the way they were playing and I'm club level at best.
This is why it's really a matter of faking it better, they should change the rules so things like that won't happen again, but with group stages I really don't know how.
Opus Angelorum
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Are you serious? The longest rally was four.
Napoleonthechimp
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Good. They're disgraceful. I hope their reputation remains tarnished.
Psychotext
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lol, those hotseats are ridiculous.
It is disgraceful but they shouldnt be disqualified. Sure, the abused the way the competition was set tup but that's not their fault tbh.
I hope so.
And that's where we stray in the area of opinion, I would much prefer harder line to go on to say well you did such and such and this is a clear breach so goodbye. As much as they deserve to go how can we be at a point where we have to debate a competitors eligibility with so much flexibility and at the height of a sport. I just don't think it really inspires much faith in officiating the sport if the results can be so easily influenced and that's what I think people should be looking at, it's just embarrassing that this can happen at an even like the Olympics.
killer_clank
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Good Job Bob
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Oh, Britain's finally gotten a gold? Congrats.
blazeuk
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For the badminton players who have been DQ'd, it shows they have a complete lack of faith in their own abilities too. To be an Olympic champion you should be able to go up against anyone and beat them, instead they looked for an easy route because they were scared of getting beaten. Sure the system seems to be broken to allow this to happen, but they don't deserve to be Olympic medallists when they take advantage of a loophole which most professionals would never even consider an option.
It not only makes a joke of the sport they're involved in (and it has been made to look a joke, this is the Olympics watched by billions of people worldwide, its the worst time to ever pull shit like that), but it's entirely unfair to those people who have paid good money to see the best players in the world compete.
It not only makes a joke of the sport they're involved in (and it has been made to look a joke, this is the Olympics watched by billions of people worldwide, its the worst time to ever pull shit like that), but it's entirely unfair to those people who have paid good money to see the best players in the world compete.
Half of those teams didn't even actually throw their matches though. The format put them all in the position of being punished for winning, which is why they all tried to throw their matches.
The format put them in a position to be punished for winning and rewarded for losing. It's hard to say most professionals would never consider it when all 4 teams in 2 matches tried it.
Watch this video: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19072677
The ref walked onto the floor and warned them multiple times to stop it. You can't have that many warnings and expect to get away with something.
Yes, the dumb rules are what triggered this behaviour, but the Olympics have to send a clear message: warnings carry consequences.
Napoleonthechimp
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They were trying to throw the matches which is treated severely in non-Olympic events. If they're not adequately punished then it'll send a bad message to others.
I don't see the point of whining about it anymore, it's not as if we're responsible for their training or performance.
Panda In Space
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Playing extremely bad or dumb does not equate to actual proof of throwing matches. Everything is speculation.
I mean everyone knows they will be in better spot to advance if they lost.
But I think there are no written rules (correct me if i'm wrong) that just because they play like club level players they can be disqualified just by looking suspicious.
The only thing to blame is the format and that's why they are changing next time round.
Zabelinskaya is very suspicious. She's come from nowhere to be absolutely dominant. Apparently the IOC are testing extra thoroughly to find people who have increased their performance so well.
I mean a 30 second gap. And she never had an international TT victory all year.
I'm not saying she's a doper, but I'm saying that there's a chance. Innocent until proven guilty though, congrats.
I mean a 30 second gap. And she never had an international TT victory all year.
I'm not saying she's a doper, but I'm saying that there's a chance. Innocent until proven guilty though, congrats.
But it's a problem with the competition format first and foremost. Those warnings are ridiculous too. Look what does ""not using one's best efforts to win" even mean? Sure they threw the match but it gave them the best chance to win a medal / the competition, in the big picture it was their best afford. It's not like anyone is entitled to see a good match.
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