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London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT2|

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shas'la said:
They'll change it when this generation of GB cyclists retire, so it's less embarrassing when one team nearly clean up in everything.
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It's a bit crazy how dominant we are in cycling. In swimming, even when considering US's success, there is still a 'degree' of competition.
 
Onion_Relish said:
That would never work, dudes already swim too much for medals. Why swim more for only 1 medal?
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. . .and the cyclists don't cycle enough for their medals? The Omnium event in cycling is ridiculous.

The answer to your question is to find out who is the best multidiscipline swimmer, removing them from the pool during the other events so that one person doesn't win 5 medals etc.

If cycling is limited, swimming and running should be.
 
Harry Potter said:
Thanks.
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Good Job Bob said:
Phelps made it look so easy that I guess it's understandable why some people don't realize how rare it is.
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Exactly, only a handful of swimmers can even compete for as many medals as he or Lochte does. The devaluing of the achievement can only come because of how easy they make it look. Lochte is one of the greatest swimmers the world has ever seen, and people don't seem to get that. They laugh when he gets a silver medal in a race but what they don't realize is that he is competing across several different disciplines, doing more races than most which causes more exhaustion, and still winning a good amount of these races. Almost everyone else sticks to one specialty because doing otherwise hurts your chance at gold in your specialty race.
 
BravesCountry said:
Exactly, only a handful of swimmers can even compete for as many medals as he or Lochte does. The devaluing of the achievement can only come because of how easy they make it look. Lochte is one of the greatest swimmers the world has ever seen, and people don't seem to get that. They laugh when he gets a silver medal in a race but what they don't realize is that he is competing across several different disciplines, doing more races than most which causes more exhaustion, and still winning a good amount of these races. Almost everyone else sticks to one specialty because doing otherwise is hurts your chance at gold in your specialty race.
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Which is also why it makes 08 look even more impressive for phelps. Swimming multiple times a day several days in a row is unbelievable draining. It's unheard of.
 
I think it's more of the problem with the insane amount of swimming events the current Olympic program carries.

There are 17 separate swimming events, which makes 34 total events when the men and women are split up.

Compared to Cycling, which has 9 events spread out over Road, Track, Mountain bike and BMX, which are all completely different disciplines with different bikes, surfaces and athletes.
Athletes are usually not cross-compatible between these disciplines. In swimming they mostly all are, although specialization is common.
 
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I want one of those
 
BravesCountry said:
Exactly, only a handful of swimmers can even compete for as many medals as he or Lochte does. The devaluing of the achievement can only come because of how easy they make it look. Lochte is one of the greatest swimmers the world has ever seen, and people don't seem to get that. They laugh when he gets a silver medal in a race but what they don't realize is that he is competing across several different disciplines, doing more races than most which causes more exhaustion, and still winning a good amount of these races. Almost everyone else sticks to one specialty because doing otherwise is hurts your chance at gold in your specialty race.
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Its not just Lochte and Phelps though, there are a lot of multi winning swimmers so it isn't specialized like track. Lochte and Phelps are a head above the rest but it isn't like every one else is racing in only one event. and they are the only ones doing the 7-8 swims.
 
Hoo-doo said:
I think it's more of the problem with the insane amount of swimming events the current Olympic program carries.

There are 17 separate swimming events, which makes 34 total events when the men and women are split up.

Compared to Cycling, which has 9 events spread out over Road, Track, Mountain bike and BMX, which are all completely different disciplines with different bikes, surfaces and athletes.
Athletes are usually not cross-compatible between these disciplines. In swimming they mostly all are, although specialization is common.
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I think you mean in swimming is almost always specialization except for a few exceptions.
 
Big-E said:
Its not just Lochte and Phelps though, there are a lot of multi winning swimmers so it isn't specialized like track.
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Lochte and Phelps are the best examples though. And I disagree that there are a lot of multiwinning swimmers, I don't disagree that track is more specialized though.

Edit: just saw your edit. A few others may be competing across a couple of different races but not nearly as many compete in the magnitude of races that Phelps and Lochte do, and no one else succeeds at it like they do.
 
BravesCountry said:
Exactly, only a handful of swimmers can even compete for as many medals as he or Lochte does. The devaluing of the achievement can only come because of how easy they make it look. Lochte is one of the greatest swimmers the world has ever seen, and people don't seem to get that. They laugh when he gets a silver medal in a race but what they don't realize is that he is competing across several different disciplines, doing more races than most which causes more exhaustion, and still winning a good amount of these races. Almost everyone else sticks to one specialty because doing otherwise hurts your chance at gold in your specialty race.
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I don't care how many events each sport has, but the number of entries should be based on quality, not country. It's unfair that in cycling only one from each country can enter, but in athletics for instance you can have many more.

Also, the events in the Olympics should reflect the main events overall. Eg in the cycling, why drop the individual pursuit? There is plenty of time available, it's a dedicated arena
 
Quick said:
Everyone walks.
Only in the Americas is baseball dominant.
Only in Japan/Asia is Sumo dominant.
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Sumo is an international sport nowadays. Not including the amateurs in their respective countries and sumo wrestlers who have retired, these are the countries currently represented in Japanese professional ranks.

Japan
Mongolia
Brazil
China
Russia
Georgia
Czech Republic (This guy is super popular because he's tiny)
Bulgaria
Kazakhstan
Egypt
Estonia
Hungary.

And, off the top of my head, there have been 2 American Grand Champions, and Korean wrestlers, too. These are rather recent developments, too.

The main problem with Sumo becoming an Olympic event is the fact that there are not enough women participating. The Japanese Sumo Committee has been pushing hard to get more women involved, with good success.
 
Hoo-doo said:
I think it's more of the problem with the insane amount of swimming events the current Olympic program carries.

There are 17 separate swimming events, which makes 34 total events when the men and women are split up.

Compared to Cycling, which has 9 events spread out over Road, Track, Mountain bike and BMX, which are all completely different disciplines with different bikes, surfaces and athletes.
Athletes are usually not cross-compatible between these disciplines. In swimming they mostly all are, although specialization is common.
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Swimming is the highlight of the first week. It's all about entertainment, not medal count.
 
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