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Bite me. They are the best.

Now sailing, equestrian, and shooting can go. Sorry...not sports any more than NASCAR.

Try to man a sailing boat...It's a sport.

Shooting requires extreme concentration, not all sports are about lifting big things and running fast.


He took that backdated suspension rather than be considered a cheat for his entire career. What an honourable man.
You don't know if he was doping, innocent until proven guilty.
 
Liu Xiang is cursed. After all the success of his team at the olympics, he just never seems to make it.

Well, he won the Olympics in 2004, so I wouldn't say cursed. He obviously is unlucky since he always seems to injury himself before the Olympics, or maybe his body is just injury prone.
 
Try to man a sailing boat...It's a sport.

Shooting requires extreme concentration, not all sports are about lifting big things and running fast.



You don't know if he was doping, innocent until proven guilty.

Or shooting balls into hoops, swimming, diving, throwing into nets etc. If people are going to make these arguments at least have a consistent and reasonable reason for dismissing certain activities.
 
Try to man a sailing boat...It's a sport.

Shooting requires extreme concentration, not all sports are about lifting big things and running fast.

Anything is a sport then. Sorry but you have to draw the line somewhere. I draw it at any event where its primary mechanic is not powered by the physical body of a human.
 
Bite me. They are the best.

Now sailing, equestrian, and shooting can go. Sorry...not sports any more than NASCAR.

Hey you - your subjective view is irrelevant. Listen to my subjective view instead.




Anything is a sport then. Sorry but you have to draw the line somewhere. I draw it at any event where its primary mechanic is not powered by the physical body of a human.

i'd argue for more of a measurable thing - I find it difficult when artistic scores are given, but I do enjoy those sports. I don't think you can limit it to 'human powered' as then you are discounting human control
 
(Handball)

Brazil was in control earlier, but Norway is looking better now: 1 goal difference with 13 minutes to go.
 
Hey you - your subjective view is irrelevant. Listen to my subjective view instead.
Hey you. Can you read?

I never said his view was irrelevant. I strongly disagreed with his opinion then stated my own opinion.

Keep main shit up though to try to look clever.
 
Try to man a sailing boat...It's a sport.

Shooting requires extreme concentration, not all sports are about lifting big things and running fast.



You don't know if he was doping, innocent until proven guilty.
Kenny narrowly beat out Bauge on two occasions in front of a crowd cheering him on at an Olympics hosted in his own country, all the while benefitting from the best training and support that could be offerred. Bauge: Cheater!

Bauge sounds like a bit of a knob.
 
Anything is a sport then. Sorry but you have to draw the line somewhere. I draw it at any event where its primary mechanic is not powered by the physical body of a human.

In Equestrian you can have the best horse of the world, but with a poor rider you end up last. I don't think you can say that the horse does more than the human. The human rider is what makes the horse so good. Point being, there aren't really good reasons to just dismiss a sport.
 
I don't agree. You never hear too many complaints about the subjective scoring in diving and gymnastics. It's sports like boxing, where you think it'd be fairly straight forward to determine a winner, where the problems seem to happen.

Dressage is a subjectively scored sport, but for me that's not why it shouldn't be in the Olympics. It shouldn't be in the Olympics because it has far more to do with the horse than the human body.

why can't they put sensors on the boxers' hats and bodies to detect hits?
 
ok, so I understood the elimination race yesterday and it was good fun, but I still don't get the scratch race. Can someone explain, or shall I just wait until its finished and read the results.
 
i'd argue for more of a measurable thing - I find it difficult when artistic scores are given, but I do enjoy those sports. I don't think you can limit it to 'human powered' as then you are discounting human control

Human control would essentially say everything from nosepicking to chess to remote control car racing are sports.

As to artistic scores I agree there is a degree of uncertainty. Still very few medals...possibly none....are given just on that. Usually the vast majority of the medals are given to the person with greatest technical merit.
 
ok, so I understood the elimination race yesterday and it was good fun, but I still don't get the scratch race. Can someone explain, or shall I just wait until its finished and read the results.
It's a very simple race where the goal is to finish first.
 
ok, so I understood the elimination race yesterday and it was good fun, but I still don't get the scratch race. Can someone explain, or shall I just wait until its finished and read the results.

It's... a race. First person across the line wins.

The place where it gets confusing is given the nature of track cycling, lapping the pack is quite possible, so the leaders can be one or more laps ahead of the remainder.
 
ok, so I understood the elimination race yesterday and it was good fun, but I still don't get the scratch race. Can someone explain, or shall I just wait until its finished and read the results.

It's just a straight forward race to the line. Almost like a road race. You get breakaways you have to cover and there's a sprint at the end.
 
In Equestrian you can have the best horse of the world, but with a poor rider you end up last. I don't think you can say that the horse does more than the human. The human rider is what makes the horse so good. Point being, there aren't really good reasons to just dismiss a sport.
At the same time with a bad horse you could be the best rider in the world and never win anything. If the medal and prize money was split with the horse you could convince me *giggles
 
Maybe I'm easily amused, but I enjoy seeing people take pretty much any activity to its extreme limits. I don't care if it's sailing, speed stacking, origami or high jump - when I see the best of the best, I'm in awe of the skill and dedication that goes into it. With the Curiosity landing and the olympics, my head is about to explode from all the awesomeness going on.

More on topic, the hurdles have been VICIOUS today. It's like they have their own competition.
 
(Handball)

Norway leads by 2; Brazil had at a point a 6-goal lead. The Norwegian keeper is beasting: 64% of shots saved.

3 minutes to go.
 
The following events should be removed from the Olympics:

- All equestrian events (especially Dressage)
- Modern Pentathlon
- Rythmic Gymnastics
- About 2 or 3 swimming distances in each stroke (we don't need 5 Freestyle distances)
- Swimming Individual Med. Relay
- Kerin in the track cycling
- Men's Trap Shooting (not the double trap)
- A couple of Canoeing/Kayaking sprints

Then the following need to be put in:

- 20/20 Cricket
- Rugby Sevens
- 60m Sprint (?)
- 5-a-side-football
- Squash
- Karate
- Baseball (a shorter form?)

discuss.

This would remove approx. 15-20 gold medal opportunities. I'm not just saying these sports because I'm British, we'd lose 2 or 3 golds through this
 
They should have more Archery events.

(Handball)

Brazil is out, Norway should thank their keeper; insane performance.
 
ok, so I understood the elimination race yesterday and it was good fun, but I still don't get the scratch race. Can someone explain, or shall I just wait until its finished and read the results.

First person to complete 60 laps wins. Trott is okayish at it, but her main rivals are worse and Trott is going to win the 500m sprint, coming second in the 3km pursuit was a big win for her as many expected third or fourth so she only picked up two points while the American is the world pursuit champion and was expected to win (which she did). Trott is probably ahead of her target for for 5 events, and has a very good shot at gold after coming second in the pursuit.
 
Team GB having a bit of a nightmare in the stadium this morning.

Javelin thrower struggling with an elbow.
Guy pulls up in the hurdles holding his leg.

What next?

That and Idohu still doesn't seem fit and Dai Green yesterday. Why so many unfit athletes. Bad luck I suppose.
 
Hopefully Norway gets murdered in their next Handball match.

So much bullshit.

Fuck me.. we were behind by SIX goals. People were readying their pitchforks here, practically condemning the team, and they come back from six behind. Some voodoo shit there, great goalkeeping. Semis, baby.
 
Bicycles are powered by human strength. Sail boats and horses are not.

If the humans in the sail boat don't pick the right wind the boat won't be that fast. It all comes down to tactics and reading the course. Besides that you have to be in quite the shape to handle a boat. This is a very silly argument you know :P
 
Fuck me.. we were behind by SIX goals. People were readying their pitchforks here, practically condemning the team, and they come back from six behind. Some voodoo shit there, great goalkeeping. Semis, baby.

I'm so salty right now, haha. Can't believe we lost that.
 
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