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Kurtofan said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/13/london-2012-games-verdict-around-world

Uk newspaper:

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BOO THOSE FRENCH ASSHOLES

Le Monde is the biggest French newspaper btw
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I'm glad you quoted Le Monde because they were the worst offenders.

Anyone can find an article that suits their agenda, but its the prominence of the article that matters (much like when a newspaper sensationalises a huge story, then prints a tiny retraction on the back pages).

And you don't get more prominent than the FRONT PAGE of Le Monde (translated by the BBC):

Le Monde front page (today) said:
The national pride that surrounded Team GB has been remarkable despite the flag-waving excessives of some BBC presenters, a patriotic feeling sometimes tinged with arrogance, a touch of favouritism displayed by the judges - Britain really did give us a good example of 'fair play'. But be warned, Britain will face the daily realities again - the economic crisis, the racial/social divides, the scandals that have rocked your city - they will quickly return to front of stage
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So, let me ask you, do you really think that's appropriate for the front page of, as you said, "the biggest French newspaper" on the day after the close of the Olympics - something which is supposed to unite nations, disregard petty differences and celebrate sport? And do you think any other country would turn their major closing ceremony article into an opportunity to take scathing pot-shots at the British?

Do you still not think there's an agenda to undermine Britain's Olympic efforts here?
 
SteveWD40 said:
The French dissing the UK economy?

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ANY country knocking anyone else economy right now is guilty of some serious self delusion, the whole world is stagnant right now.

They are some salty motherfuckers and no mistake.



<3 Ennis
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They just upset we got picked to hold it, Just think how bad it would be if the French did get 2012 EU would be down the black hole right now
 
Zaph said:
I'm glad you quoted Le Monde because they were the worst offenders.

Anyone can find an article that suits their agenda, but its the prominence of the article that matters (much like when a newspaper sensationalises a huge story, then prints a tiny retraction on the back pages).

And you don't get more prominent than the FRONT PAGE of Le Monde (translated by the BBC):



So, let me ask you, do you really think that's appropriate for the front page of, as you said, "the biggest French newspaper" on the day after the close of the Olympics - something which is supposed to unite nations, disregard petty differences and celebrate sport? And do you think any other country would turn their major closing ceremony article into an opportunity to take scathing pot-shots at the British?

Do you still not think there's an agenda to undermine Britain's Olympic efforts here?
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It's forbidden to talk about economy?It's not a sports newspapers, it's perfectly normal to talk about the issues of the Olympics while praising the good.

Journalism isn't just praise praise praise like a sycophant, it's investigating, questioning and reporting.

When you see Athens after the Olympics it's important to talk about the economy and the effects the games have on it, when there was some 'favouritism' (mainly thinking about Hindes, that was favoritism, he admitted he faked a crash), the fact that elitist sports from private schools got the most medals, the G4 scandal before the games, the empty places etc...

Should journalists not report on that?Should they not investigate?Should they just say "Wow that was great and super nice"

Celebrating sport and uniting nations is cool and all, but you can do that while also criticizing some aspects.
 
The French are only claiming the flag waving (which rarely happens in this country) as being a sign of arrogance because they're not the ones doing it. We rarely get a chance to be proud of anything in this country (thanks Le Monde for reminding us of the problems we're already well aware of) and when we do we get shit on for it?

People who do that are damn idiots.
 
Kurtofan said:
It's forbidden to talk about economy?It's not a sports newspapers, it's perfectly normal to talk about the issues of the Olympics while praising the good.

Journalism isn't just praise praise praise like a sycophant, it's investigating, questioning and reporting.

When you see Athens after the Olympics it's important to talk about the economy and the effects the games have on it, when there was some 'favouritism' (mainly thinking about Hindes, that was favoritism, he admitted he faked a crash), the fact that elitist sports from private schools got the most medals, the G4 scandal before the games, the empty places etc...

Should journalists not report on that?Should they not investigate?Should they just say "Wow that was great and super nice"

Celebrating sport and uniting nations is cool and all, but you can do that while also criticizing some aspects.
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It's pathetic coming from one of the more perilous EU economys for one thing, but by all means keep defending the bitterness.
 
We don't do a lot of flag waving in France, some (very right wing) politicians, criticized the lack of French flags during the celebrations of Hollande's election.


SteveWD40 said:
It's pathetic coming from one of the more perilous EU economys for one thing, but by all means keep defending the bitterness.
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It's pathetic to talk about the cost of one of the most costly event in the world.OK.
 
1. Great Olympics, I already miss them.

2. Stop being so fucking confrontational about everything guys.

3. LOL, twitter.

Until the next time!
 
Zaph said:
And you don't get more prominent than the FRONT PAGE of Le Monde (translated by the BBC):
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That's some impressive mistranslation work from the BBC, surprising. Here's the article in question, an editorial on the frontpage : http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2012/08/13/de-l-or-olympique-au-plomb-economique_1745648_3232.html

No mention of the BBC whatsoever and pretty elogious tone actually. It ends on a less positive note though, mentionning how hard it is for the host cities to get out of the "Olympics bubble". Also mentions of the Games Montreal 76, Athens 2004 and Beijing 2008 which ended up causing more harm than good.

Pretty standard fare article if you ask me, read the same stuff about every single Olympics since Barcelona 92. It's the same old debate "Great Games but now the party is over, hangover time?".
 
The games had they "low" days but in general where great. RIO will also have its issues but it wont matter because there are not perfect games.
 
I highly recommend people to read the last chapter of "The Perfect Pitch" by Malcolm Gladwell. France was a shoe in for hosting the games until Team GB gave the IOC a presentation they would never forget.
 
Kurtofan said:
It's forbidden to talk about economy?It's not a sports newspapers, it's perfectly normal to talk about the issues of the Olympics while praising the good.

Journalism isn't just praise praise praise like a sycophant, it's investigating, questioning and reporting.

When you see Athens after the Olympics it's important to talk about the economy and the effects the games have on it, when there was some 'favouritism' (mainly thinking about Hindes, that was favoritism, he admitted he faked a crash), the fact that elitist sports from private schools got the most medals, the G4 scandal before the games, the empty places etc...

Should journalists not report on that?Should they not investigate?Should they just say "Wow that was great and super nice"

Celebrating sport and uniting nations is cool and all, but you can do that while also criticizing some aspects.
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I find it interesting that you've now gone from scouring for positive sources, to saying "hey, not all reporting should be unmitigated praise!" when it's quite obvious they're not even trying to be neutral, investigative journalists.

There is a time and place. And such a thing called tact. I'm sure our economic and political issues could have waited 24 hours.

But anyway, I'm not going to keep beating this dead horse, because I think I've made my point and I can understand why you'd disagree.

BlindCommunication said:
That's some impressive mistranslation work from the BBC, surprising. Here's the article in question, an editorial on the frontpage : http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2012/08/13/de-l-or-olympique-au-plomb-economique_1745648_3232.html

No mention of the BBC whatsoever and pretty elogious tone actually. It ends on a less positive note though, mentionning how hard it is for the host cities to get out of the "Olympics bubble". Also mentions of the Games Montreal 76, Athens 2004 and Beijing 2008 which ended up causing more harm than good.

Pretty standard fare article if you ask me, read the same stuff about every single Olympics since Barcelona 92. It's the same old debate "Great Games but now the party is over, hangover time?".
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Err...no. That's not the article from the font page of Le Monde as it doesn't even have the mention of the BBC and sounds nothing alike.

Sorry, but I'm going to believe BBC News' translation (by their French correspondent) over you finding a random editorial from the same newspaper and passing it off as the front page article.
 
I dont take these french papers seriously TBH, pretty sure if it was in Paris then sun would make some snide comment about the Germans marching in Paris and the French waving white flags or something. Does any one really care if other countries didnt like the games, or thought GB had favourable decisions? Doesnt that always happen with the home teams?
 
Just found out I could've been competitive in Paralympic 100m running when I was younger.

I'm gutted because it proves I've been a waster for the past 5 years.
 
The games were great, but I don't think they should hold the summer olympics in such a rainy place anymore. It's like the Vancouver games. They turned out fine, but holding the winter games at a place that is prone to warm spells proved to cause all kinds of issues.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
The games were great, but I don't think they should hold the summer olympics in such a rainy place anymore. It's like the Vancouver games. They turned out fine, but holding the winter games at a place that is prone to warm spells proved to cause all kinds of issues.
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So you're using 2 games that for the most part had great weather as a reason not to have games in temparate areas? I'd see your point if London had been 2 straight weeks of rain or if Vancouver's snow all melted away, but it didn't.
 
Solo said:
So you're using 2 games that for the most part had great weather as a reason not to have games in temparate areas? I'd see your point if London had been 2 straight weeks of rain or if Vancouver's snow all melted away, but it didn't.
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To be fair, I was *very* nervous for the preceding month or so!
 
perfectchaos007 said:
I highly recommend people to read the last chapter of "The Perfect Pitch" by Malcolm Gladwell. France was a shoe in for hosting the games until Team GB gave the IOC a presentation they would never forget.
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I'd quite like to read that since I didn't pay much attention to the bidding process when it was happening (aside from a few anecdotes such as officials ensuring IOC members would only see green traffic lights when travelling across London).

But I can't find any book called The Perfect Pitch by the author Malcolm Gladwell. Do you mean Jon Steele instead?
 
GarthVaderUK said:
I wonder if ITV bothered to broadcast anything over the last 2 weeks.
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They've had their worst two weeks since records began, if I remember right.

Edit: For example, they showed A Touch Of Frost at 9pm yesterday. It got 673k viewers, their lowest ever rating for that timeslot.
 
Setsuna said:
basiclaly over 2 weeks

90 percent of the uk

watched at least 15 minutes of footage
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The ratings are unbelievable, eight events over 15m, the ceremonies are the top two ratings this year and had 20m averages which is stunning considering the length of the broadcast. I don't think anything has had a 20m average in decades.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/sport-online-figures.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2012/08/digital_olympics_reach_stream_stats.html

This should please people:

Opening up the breadth of the Games via BBC Red Button &#8211; with 23.7m viewers to the 24 SD, HD and Freeview streams throughout the Games, and every single stream seeing at least 100,000 viewers
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Everything got at least *some* interest. Deserved.

There's some fantastic graphs on the blogpost, too.
 
Put it like this: the opening ceremony was the second most watched thing on British television ever. And anything getting in to those records was thought nearly impossible due to the growing multichannel nature of TV.
 
JonathanEx said:
Put it like this: the opening ceremony was the second most watched thing on British television ever. And anything getting in to those records was thought nearly impossible due to the growing multichannel nature of TV.
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IMO it was the most watched, it doesn't account for all the big screens and pubs ect.
 
Was just watching some more rhythmic gymnastics with the missus... so, what's with the creepy Israeli coach? She has a real thing for kissing all of her girls, some of them for an uncomfortably long time.

/is weirded out a bit
 
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