CambriaRising
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It is possible, welcome to opinions.
Resident Evil 6 - Review Thread | Activist Reviews and the Hate Patrol Destroy Truth
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It is possible, welcome to opinions.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
He genuinely believed he was warning people (thousands and thousands of people, because it's a hugely popular franchise) to save their money. That's more important than the rules of the embargo. Embargos exist to allow people time to write up "quality" articles. He didn't violate that. Reviewers give hints like this (positive and negative) all the time.
You are too personally invested in how people feel about this game if this bothers you.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
No, I found very funny that for one full page he goes on a rant of how horrible is the pace of RE6 with so many interruptions and the he gives MGS4 a 10.
Taste never change
EternalGamer
Banned
The context makes a huge difference though. IF you are playing good game that gets constantly interupted by cutscenes that is not nearly as annoying as playing shit game that constantly annoys you more by interupting it with cutscenes.
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Deleted member 30609
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Completely understandable reviews. This game is packed with horrible moments.
I really like the game despite itself. I'd still recommend fans of weird-ass Japanese games give it a try at some point just to marvel at the insanity of what's present and appreciate the sheer ambition of the game.
It's a completely weird game that I enjoy despite itself.
I really like the game despite itself. I'd still recommend fans of weird-ass Japanese games give it a try at some point just to marvel at the insanity of what's present and appreciate the sheer ambition of the game.
It's a completely weird game that I enjoy despite itself.
razgriz417
Member
Rent it from Redbox for $2 a night, if it's your cup of tea buy it?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"Taste...taste has changed"
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Eh? I'm answering his question, what the hell is your problem?
Jasper Avenue
Member
I'm alright with embargo breaking as long as it's to tell me to avoid a POS game. Seems like that was the case here.
If Capcom was smart they would have held off reviews until noon tomorrow. Obviously they thought they made a better product than they did.
If Capcom was smart they would have held off reviews until noon tomorrow. Obviously they thought they made a better product than they did.
CambriaRising
Member
Well again, who cares? Why does it matter? He could give the game a 10/10, or a 3/10, or a 1/10, or an 8/10. Its his job to give his honest opinion about the game, and the guy did. Deal with it.
Lucent
Member
And if the people don't get that there are positive reviews and not every single one of them is "paid off" to give such reviews along with the bad reviews that they seem to be focusing on, then I don't know what to say either.
Tunnel vision.
Not to mention MGS4 was GAF's GOTY 2008.
It needed the overhaul at the time. A lot of people were getting a serious case of franchise fatigue, including me, and I'm the type to go for S rank, no saves, and finish in an hour and a half. Should it make a come back? Sure, though I wouldn't want it for the mainline series. I'd rather they rethink and refine what they have now to maintain some variety. I'd like to see the old game play have a place in spin offs or off year games.
TemplaerDude
Member
I guess all we can hope for now is that this game sells like shit and Capcom stops trying to make some Gears knockoff and goes back to the series' horror roots.
At least I can dream.
At least I can dream.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Will be rebooted to Ninja Theory for cinematic action horror. "We're looking for 90 Metacritic!"
"...we'll settle for 75, at this point"
Spieler Eins
Member
It will probably break sales records, sadly.
KefkaTaran
Member
It's advertised on the back of the box for the game. Capcom isn't trying to hide shit now.
What I don't understand is why some of you are trying to discredit a critic's review with things that aren't actually about the review. What the critic does or did previously doesn't affect how we look at the review at all. If anything it affects how we look at the reviewer in person.
Let's use KVO as an example. Sure, he reviewed games previously and you guys didn't agree with it. 8.5 for FFXIII and 10 for MGS4. Does that have anything to do with the RE6 review? No, it doesn't. All it does is build credibility and ethos for the man, that's it. If you have a problem with the review, then cite problems with the review please; not about the person.
Let's use KVO as an example. Sure, he reviewed games previously and you guys didn't agree with it. 8.5 for FFXIII and 10 for MGS4. Does that have anything to do with the RE6 review? No, it doesn't. All it does is build credibility and ethos for the man, that's it. If you have a problem with the review, then cite problems with the review please; not about the person.
well no
is the best RE game since RE4. So no it is great..
Some users in this thread are in denial.. RE6 is what it is, a bad game.. Worst entry in the series by far. no contest. Just deal with it and move on.. If you are enjoying RE6 that is cool but stop spinning the reality..
Lucent
Member
Well they've announced it on their facebook and everything. I guess maybe they figured everything else was getting leaked from the demo files, might as well tell everyone.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Alright I think you guys are misunderstanding me. The initial post I responded to was implying that Dusk Golem is trying to get the reviewer in trouble by bringing up the fact that he spoke about the game before it came out. I just pointed out that he spoke about it on Twitter, which is so public that we don't need Dusk Golem's help to bring it to Capcom's attention; they are more than capable of finding it themselves. The whole point I was trying to make is that Dusk Golem isn't trying to get anyone in trouble.
But of course everyone decides to jump down my throat accusing me of working for Capcom's marketing department. Jeez. Like no one ever defended a franchise they like on this site.
I was confused because both Van Ord and Jeff were saying things on different sites, a few images were being posted before review release which had things both said on the internet before reviews went life.
Von Opt was saying things, one was a name drop but this image went around when he first brought it up a month ago before Borderlands 2 hit:
Maybe he was talking about Max Payne 3?
EternalGamer
Banned
This seems like a reasonable post, but I recall you probably said something that was wrong in the past, therefore I'm not paying attention to it.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
After watching the Gamespot video review and reading VanOrds Twitter quotes I have a hard time comprehending, why he gave it a 4.5 and not a much lower score.
CambriaRising
Member
Only 45% of the check cleared.
Riposte
Member
Haha, your tone is completely ridiculous.
Also I'm done beating RE:R into a pulp. You guys are making me hate the game because I have to put it down so much in order to put it back where it belongs.
EDIT: Capcom is the fucking worse when it comes to secrets. I'm pretty sure you can piece together the entire story of RE5 right up until the finale using trailers only. One day I might actually try and do this.
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Deleted member 17706
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Then maybe he shouldn't frame his criticism as saying that the flow of "door -> cutscene -> short action -> cutscene -> door -> cutscene" is shit, and instead say that he liked on version of that but not the other. It's when people try to justify their subjective opinions as if they are objective criticisms that they look like clowns.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Same here...
do tell.. please do tell..
anyway I love how the community is reacting.. People are bringing Revelations in a lot of debates which it is a good thing.. People are opening their eyes because that game is the right path to go but knowing Capcom that is a no no..
Edit: RE R belongs below RE2/RE4/Remake. Simple as that.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
BTW I love your avatar!
But I can't help to imagine that you are FableJourneyHCGuy and are talking with his voice every time I read somehting you posted lol
WrenchNinja
Member
Well yes.
I don't understand why readers are upset that an outlet broke embargo. That is for the publishers and angry competitors should worry about. He didn't like the game. Him hinting at hating the game before embargo doesn't devalue his review.I was confused because both Van Ord and Jeff were saying things on different sites, a few images were being posted before review release which had things both said on the internet before reviews went life.
Von Opt was saying things, one was a name drop but this image went around when he first brought it up a month ago before Borderlands 2 hit:
Riposte
Member
Is English not your first language? That's the only way you could not be aware of how arrogant you are being. You refer to the entirely of your opposition as delusional and demand they just move on after accepting you are right. No conversations can be held understand that condition.
No, it is not that simple. You don't just say something and people accept it. Life doesn't work that way.
whalleywhat
Member
Activism isn't for everyone.
I read your post twice to realize it was a joke. Fail....
that is correct. I have to keep it short and sharp..
But... RE6 takes a complete departure from what RE is or has been, while MGS4 didn't at all and has coherent design.
Yes, MGS4 has a shit ton of cutscenes, but if the gameplay is good, it follows the same similar styling as the previous games, and is enjoyable to go through then having the long cutscenes and interruptions aren't a detriment to the game.
While in RE6's case, according to his review, the gameplay isn't good (the QTEs fall under this), the game doesn't have a similar style to what RE5/RE4 were (let alone REs 1-3), and is seemingly not fun to go through because of the gameplay and apparent constant QTEs; to the point the long cutscenes and interruptions are also a detriment to the game. Simply because the game, according to his review, is taking away control from the player so often. From scripted events, to QTEs, to the "always running towards the screen from x dood", to whatever else he listed that should have not been in the game and/or should have given more control to the player.
MGS4, on the other hand, when you're playing it you're always in control of Snake. The game doesn't take away control from you until you get to a cutscene and the cutscenes are placed, generally, in a good spot. So, why he gives MGS4 a 10 versus giving RE6 a 4.5 is clear as day. I can see how it's funny to you, but... come on. Let's be real here, there are underlying differences.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
You're right, it doesn't.
There was a bit of controversy a few days ago because he was saying things about the game that wasn't true, he would do rants about things about it on Twitter and then people would post asking stuff in the OT, and people with the game would point out it wasn't true of the game at all. There was one in particular I recall where people were talking about how he brought up in this game he apparently hated so much and was going on a rampant on about how if you died you would restart at the checkpoint with the amount of ammo you had when you died and because of this people were talking about it like it was true, though it isn't like that, it is the same as it was in RE4 and RE5 where when you die you go back to the checkpoint with as much ammo as you had at the checkpoint. There were other things, but most were resolved in the OT pretty quickly.
I don't care much and this review isn't a surprise to me, the 4.5 was on a mobile app for Gamespot a week ago when looking at the RE6 page, but from everything I was seeing I was thinking his final review was going to be false in areas and not just more of a negative opinion, and it indeed is.
How does embargo work in general? and can this be uses against him?I was confused because both Van Ord and Jeff were saying things on different sites, a few images were being posted before review release which had things both said on the internet before reviews went life.
Von Opt was saying things, one was a name drop but this image went around when he first brought it up a month ago before Borderlands 2 hit:
The publisher deals with the publication and the publication deals with the reviewer in question. However, this doesn't discredit anything about the review itself. Only the reviewer in question.
blitzcloud
Banned
The score appeared on the website, leaking the score. He tried to save face by saying he hadn't even done the review by that time. Coincidentally, it's the same score.
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Deleted member 30609
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It's the sort of game you buy dirt cheap in a year or two and marvel at some of the insane/horrible decisions and laugh at the inexplicably bad QTE segments. There's something endearing about watching such a giant production -- backed by people who should have known better -- completely derail. I can't find Polygon's rating guide, but I'd imagine four out out of ten roughly refers to something like this.
Riposte
Member
Here is a tip: Post with some more tact until you become a full member.