ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yuterald is a special-class of poster. I think even more of the anti-DmC people can agree.
He's a breed of his own
He's a breed of his own
DmC Review Thread (Release Date - 1/15/13) Embargo is over!
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ShockingAlberto
Member
Has anyone named reviewers that are claiming to have claimed the game but have not done so?
That's a pretty major ethical breach and one that warrants blacklisting or firing.
That's a pretty major ethical breach and one that warrants blacklisting or firing.
I don't get it either. NT gets soooo much shit for no good reason at all. It's kind of disappointing to see people wanting a company and a game to fail so badly.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It would be great if you'd be done with DmC threads at least, because you don't seem to have anything of substance to say about the game, only the meta-commentary and "oh, neogaf!"
Charoncaori
Member
Just don't start.
They're basically throwing out everything DMC means to a very vocal portion of its fanbase. Changing dante, dumbing down gameplay, 30fps, bloody palace, style ranks are broken, it goes on.
Whether or not the game is fun doesn't matter to this camp, it just shouldn't be a DMC game.
Edit: Unless you're saying you don't know why NT is getting flack instead of Capcom, in which case FUCK no, this is Capcom's fault.
LightofRohan
Member
Shut it. I aint even getting into this shit with you, you're basically a joke account at this point to me.
No you guys are everything wrong w/ the gaming community and it makes me sick. But you are right, I'll go on another hiatus from these threads like I've done in the past. Just stop making so many fucking threads.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
He's right though... all of your posts in DmC threads are commentary about the community without actual substantial posts of your own.
News flash but you are part of the problem too. Nothing worse than complaining about complainers.
Could not agree more. I think this is the best chance the franchise had.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It's possible that DmC represents a lot that is wrong with the gaming industry and it makes some fans sick.
You needn't lump me in with "the embarassing haters" because I have said both positive and negative things about this game's demo, none of which were particularly extreme or unreasonable.
I feel extremely honored, thank you.
Sorry, but this is basically all your comment is in half the topics you participate in
I AM JIZZING ALL OVER THIS GAME, IT IS AMAZING
WAIT
WHY ARE YOU ALL NOT JIZZING OVER THIS GAME
I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE NOT JIZZING OVER THIS GAME
OH MY GOD THE NOT JIZZING OVER THIS GAME CONTINUES, THIS IS AN AFFRONT TO GAMING
I AM THINKING OF LEAVING THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE HURTING MY FEELINGS WITH THE CRITICISMS YOU MAKE AGAINST MY BELOVED GAME
And then the cycle continues when you wade back into a topic, attack the critics without ever trying to actually address the complaints they make or respect their positions whatsoever, and then whine and whine for pages about how the community is out of control or don't know what fun is or whatever the next bullshit line you pull from your sandy vagina is.
How about instead of attacking the community, you try to address criticisms and why you feel they are wrong? But you're incapable of doing that. So instead, you just rail against the idea of people criticizing whatever it is you love.
You do this for basically every game you like for which there is a big community backlash.
BeautifulMemory
Member
At one point you did say you understood some of the passion behind the criticisms, because you could see how if some random outside studio came in and messed with your favorite franchise (GOW), you'd be pissed too
Things are still the same way man
SolidSnakex
Member
Hideaki Itsuno. He's still at Capcom and is responsible for what's widely viewed as the best game in the series (DMC3). Capcom should've just put the series on hold until he finished Dragon's Dogma.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
DmC hasn't gotten many more threads than any other big game, and probably no more than it would have gotten if everyone considered it a worthy DMC successor. I'm not exactly sure what your intentions are here; do you dislike that people feel passionate about their hobby?
To be honest DmC is doing more stuff catered to "core" gamers than most other AAA games out there.
They could've released the game with only one difficulty mode like many other games out there. There could've been no new game+. No on the fly weapon swap. No timing mechanics. No throwbacks to the older games. There could've been more emphasis on story/adventure/platforming than combat.
They could've kept Dante's smoking habit.
They have also been very transparent with the game. Yea yea... the PR with this game has been astoundingly bad but the actual game itself isn't as bad and people correlate the quality of the PR to the quality of the actual game. It is what it is.
They could've released the game with only one difficulty mode like many other games out there. There could've been no new game+. No on the fly weapon swap. No timing mechanics. No throwbacks to the older games. There could've been more emphasis on story/adventure/platforming than combat.
They could've kept Dante's smoking habit.
They have also been very transparent with the game. Yea yea... the PR with this game has been astoundingly bad but the actual game itself isn't as bad and people correlate the quality of the PR to the quality of the actual game. It is what it is.
Itsuno sounds just as clueless as anyone at Capcom lately. He doesn't know what he's doing with Devil May Cry.
EliteArtist
Member
Well. I think the game looks alright. I'll definitely be giving it a run through. I played through Devil May Cry 4 and part of 3, so I'm somewhat familiar with the series. I think I'm a bit more open minded to reimaginings, so I should enjoy it for what it is attempting to do.
Ninja Theory is operating under Capcom's mandate and instruction. They told them to change the look and visual style. And I can even understand where Capcom is coming from. They want to appeal to a broader audience and reinvent a stagnant series.
If you want the OG style of DMC gameplay, it's been my understanding that Bayonetta is that thing, refined. So you have somewhere to go.
SolidSnakex
Member
What's this based on? The comments that he's made about this game? I really wouldn't expect anything less from him. You can't expect him to throw this game under the bus.
Pretty sure Capcom PR is keeping him on a leash with DmC. You don't direct games as mechanically sound as DMC3 and DMC4 if you're clueless.
First run lasted 13 hours on nephilim with B or better grades, but note that completion % (keys, secret missions, lost souls) were low all along (some levels require to come back and replay after you got Aquila or some specific key). Game has quite a bit of content to look out for, and how much of it you collect acts as a multiplier on the final grade for the level.
Also, one last note: I didn't play the demo, but In the final code the grades definitely don't go up like a breeze as in the video you linked before. I think I got SSS like 10 times in the whole game.
Charoncaori
Member
Which is why Bayonetta has replaced DMC as my new favorite game/series.
I mean, I understand why Capcom did what they did to the franchise, I just disagree with it. Bayonetta 2 being announced has really softened the blow for me though.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Bayonetta came out 2 years ago. Character action fans have digested it already. People are rightly feeling deprived of quality entries in the genre. DmC represents, to some, a missed opportunity.
On the bright side, we're getting 3 character action games in the next 3 months. But DmC was the only one that would satisfy devotees of stylish combo action (or whatever you want to call it), and it's not living up to the series' standards in some important ways.
What because I said I couldn't care less about reviews yet I'm commenting/critiquing DmC reviews? I guess I'm being a hypocrite, right? Well, guess what, when MGR comes out you won't find me in a single thread about its reviews because I don't give a shit. What I DO know is that it's an actual game worth my respect, unlike DmC. There's been so much foul play by NT and Capcom regarding PR, how could I not comment on its reviews? Have Konami and Platinum been doing/saying shady shit up until MGR's release? No. So, just fucking deal with it, dude.
They don't go up like a breeze in the demo either unless you use the Demon dodge, that was what that video was showing (timed Demon Dodge into Trinity Smash on two enemies = instant SSS). Also do they actually go down in letter grade if you don't do anything or do they stay the same letter?
Thanks for the reply on the completion time.
Instead, he's just throwing the original series under the bus. I don't know how much of a role Itsuno played in DMC being outsourced but his comments alluding to the original series being stale and too difficult for new players don't really give me any faith for the series under his creative control.
BeautifulMemory
Member
love the new avatar man...*cries*
With the Cacpcom meme going on, I'm sure Capcom is experiencing plenty of hate as well. From the other thread.
The company with the worst community management handing off a combat heavy franchise to the company with a reputation for stories and art over game play is basically 2 lightning rods merging into a gigantic lightning rod.
He has been working on the game. Heck, he has been sprouting some of the most amazing stuff in regards to the game.
Dude, my feelings about this game are all kinds of complicated.
Good to hear, for sure. I've been eyeing a rental for this, but this nudging more towards a purchase.
Infinite Justice
Member
I haven't played Dragon's Dogma but the combat is supposed to be really decent in that game also (at least for a game like that)
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Yes
That's pretty great to hear.
NT is a pretty terrible dev taking over a beloved franchise. There's not much to figure out.
BeautifulMemory
Member
SolidSnakex
Member
Like pizzaroll said, it just sounds like he's saying exactly what Capcom has said. They're trying to sell this game. And the whole company line behind it is that people were apparently tired of the "old" DMC style and wanted something different.
In hindsight, I kind of wish they went more out of the box with Dante and Vergil. They're still just pretty white guys in trench coats.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Funny, I didn't see one person say DMC4 was stale till the marketing of this game started.
Sidenote: Stale bread makes great toast.
Sidenote: Stale bread makes great toast.
It's probably the best combat of any open world RPG, really. It's just not as tight as his DMC games -- but you can definitely feel the DMC DNA (lol) in it as well, mostly the melee classes.
Luckily, we do not need Amir0x to save the day, as DmC threads are the last place on GAF to find a circle-jerk discussion. And no, "I am actually anticipating this game" and "Fuck it, I like the new atmosphere" is quite far from what your so well known nightmare scenario describes.
Bayonetta x DMC needs to happen.
I think he's specifically addressing Darkness_Bear's posts. And it's fairly representative of his drive-by trolls.
Maybe he really is. No point in forcing him to suffer through another installment of DMC. He also worked on salvaging DMC2 in addition to DMC3.
Eh, a couple of more days and the OT'll be up, and (outside of ORC and Dragon Age 2) those tend to provide sanctuary from haters.
I'm talking JUST about Darkness Bear and nobody else. He had a similar meltdown over Assassin's Creed 3, and he has a similar meltdown every time he loves a game that the community has some backlash against. Doesn't matter how legitimate the criticisms are, because he never addresses them. His sole modus operandi is to bitch about the fact that people are being criticial, instead of just addressing the points being made and saying why he feels they are wrong.
If prodded, he'll usually say "i'm not wasting my time with you" or something similar, or he'll maybe start with the most basic response before immediately reverting back to the attacks against the community as a whole who he deems as being wildly unfair to his sacred cow