ScepticMatt
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current: 176 GB/s = 5500MT/s*256bit/8 (same for 8GB if they use clam shell design)
WideIO DDR3: 204.8GB/s = 1600MT/s (cheap like used in WiiU) *1024bit/8
normal DDR: 68.265 = 2133MT/s (like in next XBox) * 256/8
Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox
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WideIO DDR3: 204.8GB/s = 1600MT/s (cheap like used in WiiU) *1024bit/8
normal DDR: 68.265 = 2133MT/s (like in next XBox) * 256/8
If Durango runs a version of w8, it will probably have more OS overhead (guessing) and would have a similar amount of RAM for use in-game.
I doubt this will happen. Especially with competitors like the steambox actually moving away from M&KB
Melchiah
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Thanks for the info, but I don't really understand why the GB/s figures don't correlate with the Mt/s figures.
While Europe does favor the PlayStation brand, I have to disagree. I think if the rumor is true (i.e. PS4 misses Europe this year) the 2014 release has more to do with supply, localization and legalities rather than market faith.
Guys forget about stacking chips. The tech isnt ready for a launch end 2013.
8GB of GDDR5 is possible through clamshell mode. The cost though could be really high...
If Sony wanted to do VR, they could blow Oculus out of the water. They actually have the resources to make custom low-latency, extra-wide panels that Oculus doesn't have the ability to do.
I'd actually be slightly more interested in seeing MS do it, though, because a VR headset in conjunction with Kinect's full-body-modeling/tracking could be pretty interesting.
phosphor112
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Late 2013 it should be ready for fully ramped up production. Many companies are looking for buyers.
This is a meaningless distinction. PS3 is the only effectively region-free home console in the past 2 decades.
With a bus 32byte large (256bits), 5500MT/s means 5500 millions * 32bytes per second.
If the bus is wider, bandwidth increases without the need for extra transfers/s (higher frequency).
ScepticMatt
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Besides the effective data-rates of the chips it is also important how many memory cells you can access in parallel, multiplying the speed.
Stacked RAM allows wider interfaces (more lanes) without costing too much main board space and cost.
If Sony goes with a 1024 lane interface with DDR3, they could use cheap, slower RAM and still reach their performance target.
Unknown One
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Whoa I missed that. Must be because it's from IGN and it says Home. Kind of aligned with what I was thinking though.
BibiMaghoo
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I think he means that it's software based. Not hardware.
Like region encoded DVD players that can be unlocked with a combination of button presses for example.
The manufacturer sets the region within the software, meaning technically they are all region free, as in hardware wise.
8 GB GDDR? Bwahahaha! Forums at it again : Constructing wild figures only to express disappointement and sorrow!
4 GB of that RAM would be a blessing.
Either the article is bogus; or Sony's been intent on using solwer RAM from the get-go; or it is to be understood that the rumor concerns the end results, not the capacity.
Otherwise, still not sold on the notion that Orbis is the more powerful of the two. I made a 100$ bet that Durango would come up on top...The way the author phrases his piece suggests that he doesn't know much about Durango (GPU from unknown source...lol!).
4 GB of that RAM would be a blessing.
Either the article is bogus; or Sony's been intent on using solwer RAM from the get-go; or it is to be understood that the rumor concerns the end results, not the capacity.
Otherwise, still not sold on the notion that Orbis is the more powerful of the two. I made a 100$ bet that Durango would come up on top...The way the author phrases his piece suggests that he doesn't know much about Durango (GPU from unknown source...lol!).
I have no idea how either Sony or MS will meet demand for these new consoles. It's been so long. It's going to be bananas.
Raitosaito
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Hi-res ps4 screenshot thread incoming
metareferential
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The only way this thing will end up having 8gb ddr5 is having Durango come out with 8gb ddr5.
Which will not happen. But imagine the meltdowns.
Which will not happen. But imagine the meltdowns.
IllumiNate
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lol why?
Unknown One
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^Special Sauce.
Yes.
Melchiah
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Yeah, but why the stacked DDR3 is only 1600Mt/s, eventhough it's GB/s figure is higher than GDDR5's?
Or does the bolded below answer that?
Well, that sounds good, if it's only doable within this year.
IonicSnake
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Can't wait! Sucks for us EU but we don't really know when "early" is, hopefully January 1. 
Impeccable
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He is literally invested in a "team" for console wars. Interesting.
Melchiah
Member
Can't wait! Sucks for us EU but we don't really know when "early" is, hopefully January 1.
The last time it was March.
AranhaHunter
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but
PSP (launch unit) = 32MB RAM x 16 = 512
PSV = 512MB RAM
PS1 = 2MB RAM x 16 = 32
PS2 = 32MB RAM x 16 = 512
PS3 = 512MB RAM X 16 = 8192
PS4 = 8GB RAM
Hell yeah, Edge is right
PSP (launch unit) = 32MB RAM x 16 = 512
PSV = 512MB RAM
PS1 = 2MB RAM x 16 = 32
PS2 = 32MB RAM x 16 = 512
PS3 = 512MB RAM X 16 = 8192
PS4 = 8GB RAM
Hell yeah, Edge is right
Uk isnt and i think they could lose some market in the rest of the eu by delaying the release there.
Because it doesn't make sense? 8 GB of GDDR5 doesn't make sense either, but let the guys keep dreaming.
Amazing.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but
PSP (launch unit) = 32MB RAM x 16 = 512
PSV = 512MB RAM
PS1 = 2MB RAM x 16 = 32
PS2 = 32MB RAM x 16 = 512
PS3 = 512MB RAM X 16 = 8192
PS4 = 8GB RAM
Hell yeah, Edge is right
I will forgo eating ice cream for a whole month if that turns out to be the case. I do not see it happening, at all. 5-6GB tops with GDDR5... TOPS.
OldJadedGamer
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My point was that the region locking has always been done on a software level, not a hardware for all systems of all time... not just current ones. Unless you count chucks of plastic inside the system that just prevented cartridges from being plugged in from another region like the N64 then it was a hardware block. Console makers need to put their foot down and say they won't certify a title if there is a region lock. Make region locking a violation of TRC's.
IonicSnake
Banned
Vita was released in February though.
painful fart
Member
Even 4 GB GDDR5 is really pushing it, 8 GB is sci-fi.
Edge should know this!
Edge should know this!
GayForMaster
Banned
Wow Europe... get fucked.
Manmademan
Member
not really. the ps3 had a weaker GPU on top of split ram. the 360 had unified ram and a stronger gpu.
this time around it's unified ram on both ends, but Sony has somewhere near 3x the bandwidth on top of a stronger gpu.
Excitement...and a healthy dose of beer. But I intend on fulfilling my moral obligation, or, even better, getting the cash.
Honestly, it makes no sense to me that Microsoft could release something less powerful, even by a slight margin. Let's wait for both reveals then...
redmetal86
Member
the first thing that came to mind when i read about the video sharing feature was this:
except now, using a ps4, you actually can show them online!
except now, using a ps4, you actually can show them online!
Liquidsnake
Banned
You guys think there are moles in both companies?
There has to be right?
There has to be right?
bigboss370
Member
higher profit margins makes sense for anyone >_>
Sony learned a lesson from Microsoft, and that is to make a system that is basically a customized PC that is very easy to develop for. And that you can have great graphics with practical, preexisting CPU/GPU combos that don't take an alien programming language to make games for.
CELL is officially one of the most expensive and impractical computing mistakes ever devised. Rest in peace, neural net processor.
CELL is officially one of the most expensive and impractical computing mistakes ever devised. Rest in peace, neural net processor.