Let us know if there's any cool stuff in there! It's pretty unusual for me to buy a guide, but if it's well documented and full of art and stuff, is love to have more of this game.
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance |OT| A Blade Forged In Platinum [LAW OF THE WILD]
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Lostconfused
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It's not that it's even all that unsafe. It's just that some bosses will straight up counter it along with several other of your moves if you just throw them out.
I don't think I really had issues with that. Certain bosses have armor moves that they'll throw out to "counter" it, but ultimately I think you can still parry/dodge most of those. I'm not saying you can throw it out indiscriminately, but you do get a feel for when you can use it and not get punished for it.
brandonh83
Banned
I see, but I'm kind of afraid of doing this and just losing the items on the fight before the last one anyway.
bitoriginal
Member
Just to consolidate previous advice on final boss for those with 0 nanopaste:
In the main menu, you can choose chapter, make sure it's on the setting you were on and choose the final chapter. In the very first area, there is a nanopaste in a red box on the periphery of the map. Pick it up, restart from last checkpoint. Keep doing that to get 5.
Once you have 5 nanopaste, stealth through with the cardboard box (may have to stealth kill a couple of people, and if you get seen just run around and hide behind a car or something with the box so the alert goes) and make sure you keep those 5 nanopaste for the final battle. Makes it a million times easier.
Also, if you get low on health, just restart from the last checkpoint and you'll have full health and full fuel. Works well when you get a checkpoint halfway through fighting Excelsius.
Still waiting for iTunes. Where is my concert footage IGN and PG?
Well, it's a tradeoff. I can tell you right now that the first fight is significantly easier to do without dying than the second. There's even a checkpoint halfway in the middle of the first fight. If people are going to struggle, I imagine it will be during the second fight and that's probably where they'll need nanopaste.
bitoriginal
Member
The
Excelsius
Armstrong
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
The more I read about cancel techniques you can do and study the move list for other options as well as actually experimenting with sub weapons beyond PINCER CRUSH and SAI STUN, all the earlier notions I had that the game didn't have very deep combat really seem to quickly be fading away for me.
Is anyone else starting to think that the combat has a lot of depth just in rather non traditional ways as well as a really simple presentation?
This is even becoming more apparent when realizing that there is more than one way to tackle most boss mechanics, several times I've found myself thinking "you can do that?" when looking at a post about X boss fight.
Just a thought.
Is anyone else starting to think that the combat has a lot of depth just in rather non traditional ways as well as a really simple presentation?
This is even becoming more apparent when realizing that there is more than one way to tackle most boss mechanics, several times I've found myself thinking "you can do that?" when looking at a post about X boss fight.
Just a thought.
bitoriginal
Member
I recommend killing all the enemies in that first area before you cut the gate, you get a checkpoint after you kill them. Then pick up the nanopaste.
bitoriginal
Member
Ninja run to avoid it, you don't actually have to cut it at all.
brandonh83
Banned
This is the worst. There's nothing I hate worse than area attacks,
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Yeah, not a fan of this. I was loving the game when it was mostly strategy and reflexes and really learning stuff, but this has some luck aspects to it.
I should have started on normal but again I didn't have any real problems with anything in the game up to this point, but this is controller breaking frustration and the first instance in the game where I'm feeling some bad gameplay design.
especially when you get confined into a smaller space and have nowhere to run and here comes another lava fire wave of pure fuck
Yeah, not a fan of this. I was loving the game when it was mostly strategy and reflexes and really learning stuff, but this has some luck aspects to it.
I should have started on normal but again I didn't have any real problems with anything in the game up to this point, but this is controller breaking frustration and the first instance in the game where I'm feeling some bad gameplay design.
A charged Dystopia attack or EM grenade disables his purple phase instantly according to the book.
I'll definitely try that as my first time against Monsoon was more or less -waiting- for him to come out of purple phase. :lol
Here's my stats for the first time through on hard:
What's the remaining enemies thing? Missed encounters?
Needs more right legs.
Make sure you are using the left stick to change the camera angle, that makes lining it up with the right stick a piece of cake.
Professor Beef
Banned
I couldn't wait for those cutting parts during the final boss because it meant that I was able to get more health.
Utilize Ninja Run to flee certain area attacks or projectiles if you have to. You can dodge or parry everything he does, it just takes practice.
brandonh83
Banned
It'd be great if I could actually do it. I get the logic behind it, but for whatever reason I always screw it up.
bitoriginal
Member
Persevere man, you can do it. I'm in the same situation, but now that I've got nanopaste it's so much easier. You just need to learn his attacks and spam the dodge button most of the time. I still haven't beaten him.
I can't be fucked to try and get it right so I just run away from the blocks every time. :lol
You can run from the blocks? I didn't even know that was an option.
I know! Main target next run. Single leg severing, son!
Ah god dammit guys...
I was just about to buy it. AND I FUCKING CHOCKED.
I don't know, I was in front of the game and I was looking at that 59,99$...then took my leave.
It's worth it, right? Hype me so I can get back there and buy the hell out of it.
What the hell? This thing is without a doubt worth your money. Some of the best boss battles of this entire generation and endless replayability. It's a goddamn rollercoaster ride from start to finish.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Interested to play this game, gamefly is taking it's sweet time. Maybe redbox has it?
Yeah there's a delay between when one is picked up to when it's thrown. During that time you can run away from the direction of the throw. Sure you don't get the benefits of cutting them, but you save time and don't have to even chance it.
Professor Beef
Banned
Ah god dammit guys...
I was just about to buy it. AND I FUCKING CHOCKED.
I don't know, I was in front of the game and I was looking at that 59,99$...then took my leave.
It's worth it, right? Hype me so I can get back there and buy the hell out of it.
I got it for free from a friend, but I was also gonna drop $60 for it before he surprised me with it. Looking back though...it would've been worth every penny.
brandonh83
Banned
I would literally be able to beat this fight with relative ease if I could do the cutting parts and get some paste. I have his patterns down to a near science.
Unfortunately it's not on their website. I think that's pretty much a guarantee they don't have it.
Oh okay. So just run away from it? Might be useful for the no damage run.
I just finished it on hard. Same thing happened to me. I kept screwing the Zandatsu part, but after using getting a handle on using both joystiqs, it became easy. LOL, was anyone thinking the final boss =
Greed from FMA?
Overall an amazing game. The more time you put in learn the mechanics, the more rewarding experience it becomes. It's been a long time since I have enjoyed some good boss fights.
Now on to Very Hard.
bitoriginal
Member
Seriously, restart the final chapter and get 5 nanopaste, it's really easy to do, and it will prevent you from having to buy a new controller from frustration.
I don't know what happened. D:
I wanted to buy it new at the beginning of the week, then Yuripaw had it for 45$ and I missed it, close call style, now I'm stuck in my own mind if I should go back and get it NOW or wait for another deal on GAF. Still, the waiting game is long and I wanted to play this week-end.
Your comment is cranking me to go back there, btw. GAF hype is the best hype. XD
What I do is wait until it's in his hands (so you can see it angled in your direction before the throw), walk around and the second it leaves his hands, run to the side so you avoid it completely. It's actually very easy to avoid. As easy as Ray's plasma blasts in the first chapter.
Thanks! I've nailed the Zadatsu the last few times I've had to do it, but I'd be worried to fuck it up towards the end of a run for that achievement.
The Real Napsta
Member
Agreed, the music in that fight is excellent.
call_kotaku
Member
It's nice if you want to get out of blockstun and/or need i-frames that instant. Really useful against packs of mastiffs because they'll often stagger their attacks one after another when crowding you, and if you try to parry successive hits it'll just lock you there til you eat a grab. Plus, being able to cancel into forward dodge and then blade mode is very helpful to immediately attack or cut a limb, but I usually opt to dodge out of the situation because even though the forward dodge has invincibility, I don't want to have my recovery animation next to the enemy in case something unforeseen happens.
I'm relying more and more on dodging instead of parries in Very Hard now, because enemies are uber aggressive there and it's often a liability to try to keep parrying.
Fighting the
two GRADs instead of one in the research lab warehouse, with everyone moving around the room at 100 miles per hour and Raiden cutting down pieces of falling debris and missiles was glorious. A much more dramatic sequence in Very Hard because you aren't just walking up to a mech and beating it til it drops.
No, but it does apparently include the precursor fights.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
This last boss has killed this game for me. The cool, fun, cheese, and badassedness has all been sucked out with this uber-political
. Fuck, man. I can only get him to 170%. What am I missing? He needs to shift battle plans at some point, right? I've seen footage where my sword drops... how do I let that happen. Infuriating, this fight.
suit and tie bastard
Yea this game really is awful at explaining things.
Honestly, I didn't think it was worth trying, and that's obviously not the optimal way of doing it either. I don't mind that this little tidbit was kept in the dark necessarily.
Not sure. I tried looking in the guide for it but can't find anything. It's probably missed encounters, yeah. My second guess would be enemies that you beat via "No Kill", which happens when you chop limbs off and let them die on their own.
I just did this, was easier than I was expecting it to be. Thanks for the tip.
Now time to try again...
Edit: Great, actually got him to about 100% life on first nanopaste and
revives to full, are you fucking shitting me...
NoirVisage
Banned
There are some enemies that only show up after you get a grade for an encounter, usually its a kung fu gekko or some non human thing(i got a bunch of enemy wings without the humans controlling them..it was kinda surreal)
they show up without a heads up from Boris.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Honestly had waaaaaaay more trouble on VR12 than VR18. The wonky auto-aim and bad camera against walls/ninja running really shows it's ass on that one.
VR18 is just:
wave 1: perfect parry gecko, lol dwarves
Wave 2: perfect parry off the wall/dropkick you see coming a mile away, lol dwarves, charge up Pincer for next wave
wave 3: unleash pincer, sending dog flying, kill him real quick, tap triangle for pole arm until all dwarves are dead, then purple Sai stun the hammer bros and take advantage of their huuuuuge recovery time on attacks(either 3 hit combo, yellow, or double spin)
wave 4: lol dwarves
wave 5: purple sai on GRAD, mash light attack, by the time he's out of stun, purple sai again, rinse and repeat
meh
VR18 is just:
wave 1: perfect parry gecko, lol dwarves
Wave 2: perfect parry off the wall/dropkick you see coming a mile away, lol dwarves, charge up Pincer for next wave
wave 3: unleash pincer, sending dog flying, kill him real quick, tap triangle for pole arm until all dwarves are dead, then purple Sai stun the hammer bros and take advantage of their huuuuuge recovery time on attacks(either 3 hit combo, yellow, or double spin)
wave 4: lol dwarves
wave 5: purple sai on GRAD, mash light attack, by the time he's out of stun, purple sai again, rinse and repeat
meh