DigitalFoundry: Hands-on with PS4 1080p 30fps...!!

What about Lococycle or Crimson Dragon? C'mon, hiding? I don't think so.
Lococycle looked pretty good. 1080p/60fps does half the work for them. Even Crimson Dragon looked better than the stuff they had at the cramped 360/XBLA section in the corner of the booth, though I'm surprised that it's targeting 30fps.

The radical change in MS's booth design compared to previous years is what prompted that observation. They're clearly trying to showcase the new, shiny XB1 experience, and how much sexier it is compared to last gen. Sony's layout, on the other hand, is still essentially a buffet of games. I get the impression that Sony was trying to impress people with the breadth of what they had to offer under their brand.
 
I like the art style:

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I get that this game is pure fanservice rather than an awesome hardcore fighting game, and I haven't even played the original but I'll still get this. Looks really great both visually and in gameplay imo.
 
I get that this game is pure fanservice rather than an awesome hardcore fighting game , and I haven't even played the original but I'll still get this. Looks really great both visually and in gameplay imo.
Not according to the people who've actually tried out the game
 
Can't you find proper screenshot, not shitty Youtube video to prove your opinion?
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I probably could, I didn't bother cause I already knew about that direct feed 720p video. But thanks for sharing that one.

My point/opinion stands. That doesn't look great, at all. That one even worsens the aliasing more.

Not according to the people who've actually tried out the game

People said the same thing about DoA5... Look how that turned out. This game will show up at Evo once and never come back.
 
Didn't they mention that Killzone is only using something like 3 gigs of ram? I think the difference between 30 and 60 fps this gen is simply going to be laziness.

4.5g at the time.

This will be the hive mind phrase of the gen "lazy = 30fps"...in some case sure its true. But to suggest GG is lazy is ignorant.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud
 
The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

Um. What??? No 60fps games on PS4?? I got 2 preordered that are 60.

Played quite a few on PS3 as well.

Bon Jour!
 
Well, apparently the PS4 games aren't the only ones with frame issues if you read the Capcom thread for DR3... and does anyone here really want to call Capcom incompetent? Actual game code, unoptimized as opposed to shiny demos of games that probably won't be out until 2014 late... I appreciate that Sony showed actual software

Warts and all.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

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60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

�� enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

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There are several games that were mentioned to capture frame rates at 60fps. Several other game devs have said they are aiming to get certain games to 60fps by console launch. Lets not forget the dev kits are stripped down versions of the actual console itself. 60fps should be no problem.

Fail Troll attempt
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

�� enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

Uh what? 60 fps is a dev choice, it has nothing to do with Sony/Microsoft's function as a console maker. And the PS4 is more powerful than the X1, it has 55% more processing power, 158% more memory bandwidth and 40% more usable RAM for games, so if a game is 60 fps on X1, the same game will easily be 60 fps on the PS4. And there are 60 fps games on PS4, for example AC4 and BF4. If a game is 30 fps on the PS4, then it's probably because they are using the hardware power for different things like additional effects or better lighting.
 
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Uh what? 60 fps is a dev choice, it has nothing to do with Sony/Microsoft's function as a console maker. And the PS4 is more powerful than the X1, it has 55% more processing power, 158% more memory bandwidth and 40% more usable RAM for games, so if a game is 60 fps on X1, the same game will easily be 60 fps on the PS4. And there are 60 fps games on PS4, for example AC4 and BF4.

Not to mention drive club devs saying they are aiming for 60fps
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

You are my new favorite poster!

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Stop insinuating B3D is some sort of den of lies and fanboys basing your opinion on some random posters. B3D mods don't need to know who is CBOAT and don't need to fallow what is happening on GAF.

B3D is one of best places to talk about tech in games and if you actually read it daily you know who you listen to in first place. Dudes like Shifty there are really good dudes who shares many things to us common rabble about many tech things.

What is most shitty though is when Gaffers or other people create there account, start rumor and talk here about that rumor as if B3D is talking about it (selling rumor TRUTHFACT). I saw it numerous times already and it is very fucking annoying.


There is ton of people there that are legitimate. You just need to know who you need to listen.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud


I don't know what to say to that. Your technological ignorance and fanboyism is beyond 11
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

I haven't been here long but this seems like the type of post that can get someone banned.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

I don't even...
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud
thank you next generation console war.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

You expect to make posts like this and last around here?
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

The reason why Xbone games were running in 60fps.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud



THIS is how you choose to post on GAF?
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

I always love when people with no clue about how games work say things like this. It's a bit like a drug, I know it's making me dumber by reading it, but I can't get enough.
 
No.

XO games were running 60fps because nearly all Sim Racers and Beat em Ups run at 60fps. It is the defacto frame rate for these types of games, and as such is down to simply being a design choice. Whether BF4 and other games can offer smooth 60fps without any downgrades to visuals remains to be seen.

They said BF4 was running on a PC "specked" to Xbone hardware durning the conference.
 
I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.
There's not a single Sony platform that can't do 60fps up until Ps4. I think it's ridiculous to believe Sony just started now to make a 30fps console off what is still incomplete hardware.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

Seriously, this single post brings down the whole reputation of neogaf. That said, I would like an RSS feed of this individual's posts.
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud
Dumbest post I've seen in a tech thread so far. Devs don't ask about it, they just do it. Also, here's several of confirmed 60fps games for PS4

BF4
DriveClub
MGSV
All sports games
 
60fps is something a dev asks the console maker they want to achieve upfront and works towards through the evolution of the engine and game.

I find it ridiculous that PS4 ,thou not surprising, no engine/game delivers 60fps. Clearly Sony and PS4 played a role in the inability for any 60fps games, not just dev problem.

The fact there are ZERO 60fps games on PS4 BUT there are on XB1 should speak volumes. And yes I'll say it again and again if I have to, MS have a beast of a machine that neogafers refuse to believe, final teardowns will prove this.. As for now the next gen engines and the games are showing this for us..

😉 enjoy your 30fps PS4 dud

what in the...
 
Dumbest post I've seen in a tech thread so far. Devs don't ask about it, they just do it. Also, here's several of confirmed 60fps games for PS4

BF4
DriveClub
MGSV
All sports games

Driveclub is aiming to be 60 FPS, and correct me if I'm wrong, but all those other games are 60 FPS on the X1 as well.
 
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