Dark Souls is the worst PC port I ever played.
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Well at this point you can probably either just cry about it or install it and play the game. Not trying to be dismissive but what else is there to do? From has acknowledged it was a bad port.
chickdigger802
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bought DS during some steam or amazon sale but haven't touched it. outside of resolution, what else reasons are there for its shittyness on pc? It does support 360 pad natively right?
Have From ever thanked Durante for that, btw?
Not directly, iirc. I think they mentioned they know of the fix.
I think I'm allergic to the word "entitlement" with respect to videogames. Let's get over it, GAF!
YouEnjoyMySelf
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The textures are amazing. Game looks glorious downsampled @ 60 FPS.
Sucks for you, OP.
Sucks for you, OP.
:lol
This is a perfect example of devs not giving a single fuck.
Mo money? Sure. Spend a few hours and port the game to PC. Put zero effort in. People will still buy it and we can let the community do all the work. GENIUS! Hopefully someone will call gamers entitled if they dare question the game. Minimal effort. Next.
I don't understand why some people would prefer to play with keyboard and mouse to begin with. That sort of game really does play better with a controller.
Morrigan Stark
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Why would anyone still bitch at the port when the fix makes it so good? Jesus christ, what a bunch of whiners. From already said they'd do it right for DkS2, and you can play DkS1 in a nicer version than the console ones with a super easy fix. Get the fix, shut up and play already. 
Felix Lighter
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The major problems are the locked 720p render resolution and locked 30 fps framerate. Outside of that, the keyboard and mouse controls are apparently abysmal but I never tried them.
Ports are judged by how they compare to other games on the same platform. Dark Souls doesn't exist in a vacuum, so not having the absolute most basic graphical settings seriously hurts it quality as a PC port.
FairXchange
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My sister got gifted Dark Souls and I even knew to tell her to get DSfix and I don't own a gaming rig.
Spideyknight
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You are playing it on the superior platform, with the superior community. A community so superior as to be better than the people who originally built the game. #Masterrace
Welcome.
Also GTAIV on the PC with ENB is some beautiful stuff, not sure what you guys are talking about.
Yea, yea it's fanmade mods, but that's the whole point of the PC, we do what the devs don't, and make it even better.
Welcome.
Also GTAIV on the PC with ENB is some beautiful stuff, not sure what you guys are talking about.
Yea, yea it's fanmade mods, but that's the whole point of the PC, we do what the devs don't, and make it even better.
Sometimes entitlement is an issue, here it isn't. Locking the internal resolution on a PC game in 2013 is unacceptable. They could easily patch this, but they don't.
RazorbackDB
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durante is awesome but that doesn't make the port less shitty. also dsfix doesn't fix the mandatory gamepad.
Disagree, if a game like this does not play well with Mouse/Keyboard it's most likely the developers fault.
This game could have been ''playable'' if they removed the mouse accel. bullshit they put in.
Yes. But *no one* releases ports like that because tweaking 3D games to run at multiple resolutions is so utterly trivial.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
No pleasing some people
Lol no. Some genres just should not be played with a keyboard and mouse.
Morrigan Stark
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No, it's not, because they actually bothered making the port in the first place when they had no intention of doing it initially, simply because there was a big petition. Did they do a poor, or even bad job? Yes, sure, and they've acknowledged it. They are likely not experienced at this kind of thing at all. But to say they don't care is just false. Especially considering they've said the PC version of DkS2 would be good. They've learned from their mistake.
1024x720 actually. And the framerate isn't just fixed to 30 in vanilla, it also drops directly to 15 with no steps in between.
Someone else did a great job fixing those, btw.
Dark Souls is not one of those games though.
Sentenza
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Me, for a start.
And everyone claiming this is "the worst port ever made" is delusional, by the way.
Of course it's extremely bare-boned and even quite ugly without the Durante's fix, but beside that it's pretty damn solid. Can't say I ever experienced a single bug or crash and performances, while not outstanding, are pretty ok even on my old system (to the point I can play most areas at 60 fps).
DrFaustPhD
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DSfix helps with the IQ a lot, but that's far from the only problem with the PC version of the game. The bizarrely long initial boot-up that crashes the game and steam if you try to do anything with the computer while it's starting up is quite annoying, as are the times that it just randomly minimizes with no explanation. The barren servers don't help either, but that's not a fault of the port.
EDIT: I have noticed some of those issues don't affect everyone, but I've seen and met enough people with those problems that it's worth bringing up to anyone thinking about the PC version. Really though, it is just the nature of PC gaming, there are countless variations of systems running the same code, there are inevitably going to be problems with certain hardware setups or driver conflicts.
EDIT: I have noticed some of those issues don't affect everyone, but I've seen and met enough people with those problems that it's worth bringing up to anyone thinking about the PC version. Really though, it is just the nature of PC gaming, there are countless variations of systems running the same code, there are inevitably going to be problems with certain hardware setups or driver conflicts.
Yeah, it's a shitty port, but I still think Devil May Cry 3 is worse, simply because there is absolutely no way to run it at the proper framerate with music. And considering how reliant that game is on a rock-solid 60FPS, it's disgusting.
From Software should not be excused for their wack-ass rush job, I agree. Luckily, they've acknowledged that it was "half-assed" (their words), and that Dark Souls 2 would be better, so until then, just DSFix it, I guess.
I do hope that Dark Souls 2 gets a workable keyboard/mouse control scheme, though. I feel like "this game only works on a controller" is kind of a cop-out in most cases.
EDIT: I'm not sure how many hackers are left on the PC version, but when it first came out it was pretty terrible to do anything online. That's another problem with PC games that use P2P for online, it's easier to cheat. Luckily, Dark Souls 2 will have dedicated servers, hopefully with some anti-cheat thing on them.
From Software should not be excused for their wack-ass rush job, I agree. Luckily, they've acknowledged that it was "half-assed" (their words), and that Dark Souls 2 would be better, so until then, just DSFix it, I guess.
I do hope that Dark Souls 2 gets a workable keyboard/mouse control scheme, though. I feel like "this game only works on a controller" is kind of a cop-out in most cases.
EDIT: I'm not sure how many hackers are left on the PC version, but when it first came out it was pretty terrible to do anything online. That's another problem with PC games that use P2P for online, it's easier to cheat. Luckily, Dark Souls 2 will have dedicated servers, hopefully with some anti-cheat thing on them.
Perhaps. I could see it working just fine, I'll have to try that mouse fix mod you linked.
But I'd never play something like a racing game with a keyboard. Oh god the horror.
Morrigan Stark
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On this I disagree. Controllers or GTFO. I read some alarming things about DkS2's controls and I hope they're not changes they made for the keyboard users in mind.
I've been taking lots of screen for my ongoing LTTP/world design appreciation thread, using only DSFix. The HUD-less shots start at Post #130. There is some aliasing here and there, but all in all, I like how they look (especially now that I know how to turn off the HUD!).
I had some examples here, but I've removed them to avoid potential spoilers.
I had some examples here, but I've removed them to avoid potential spoilers.
Racing games do indeed suck with ms/kb but i would also say they suck with a pad so there's that, to each his own.
Well said.
Not saying it isn't the developers fault, I am saying that sort of game is best played with a controller. In other words, regardless of whether the KB/M support is any good or not, you're still better off playing with a controller.
meltingparappa
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I never had any of those. I wouldn't put it past it for them to be known issues, but I wouldn't say that's as universal a problem as the rest that you listed.
Yeah the port is garbage but its still one of the best games this generation! So work with what you got and if you use the DSfix its even the definitve version of one of the best games this generation
The port is garbage no denying and Fromsoft should do better and with Dark Souls 2 they will 
It's lead platform so they are probably gonna make ''some'' changes to pc controls, i doubt however this will affect pads.
The problem for people like me is, i don't like playing games with a controller when i'm on my pc, sure i could use my tv but fuck it, i'm at my desk, let me use my mouse and keyboard.
Beerman462
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When I first got it on PC it looked fine to me. I really didn't understand what people were bitching about until I installed DSfix. I guess if it had resolutions not supported by your monitor it would suck.
It does that even before using DSfix (GFWL nonsense aside).
Gentleman Jack
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My man
Lordwindowlicker
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It wasn't great, but the DS fix was out almost immediately.
I have surprisingly gotten very comfortable with Keyboard/Keyboard. Not even Keyboard/Mouse, but really just using the keyboard :lol.
jediyoshi
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If the alternative is no port, get right outta town.
jonscrambler
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sure it doesn't take advantage of PCs but still better than console versions.
joseph1594
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People aren't necessarily "defending" the port. People are just pointing out Dsfix because applying it is so easy that there is absolutely no reason to miss out on such an awesome game that became available on PC. Your OP also has jarring hyperboles like "who the hell wanted this pos on PC" when it is obvious why: people wanted to play an amazing game on their platform of choice.
It is also worth mentioning that From Software seems to have been very happy about the success of Dark Souls on PC and now Dark Souls II's lead platform is PC.I don't think From Software should stay far away from PC ports.
RazorbackDB
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i'm just saying that everyone complained about the port pre-release, but then durante released dsfix like in half hour and everyone buyed the hell out of it. everyone complains about shitty ports on pc but they buy it anyway.