One game running at 720p is enough to show that..
Well, at least you're making your agenda clear :/
Battlefield 4 PS4 runs at 720p native [DICE: Incorrect]
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Well, at least you're making your agenda clear :/
I haven't experienced any problems in that regard. In fact, I feel like sitting too far away strains my eyes much more because I have a harder time making stuff out and need to concentrate more.
My GF gets motion sickness from playing on the big screen though
Sho_Nuff82
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And looks like absolute dogshit compared to BF3 on the same console.
Dictator93
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I wonder if the XBO version will run at 640x480 or something, it would remind me of my DOS days
256 color BF4 Xbox1 confirmed.
That is the insanity of it. I am still thinking they should have turned down a number of effects quality to get a higher resolution.. there is nothing they can really do about CPU load... but GFX effects are always togglable... I guess their focus testing informed this decision just as much as the 60fps one.
i wonder what could happen on gaf if the xbo version run in higher or with more fps
I am pretty sure that will never happen.
ps3/360 versions of bf3 offered some of the worst IQ i've seen this gen. god awful.
If neither Sony or MS require 1080p as a minimum developers will just go down to 720p further down in the console's life to get the most out of the console's graphics capabilities.
Sony & MS need to put their foot down and require 1080p as a minimum otherwise we'll have 720p/30fps games towards the end of every gen.
But at what graphical preset?
Without knowing that for the PS4 version, we don't know what the repercussions will be for PC users.
Lagspike_exe
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Same can be said for BF4 vs. KZ really. And that's without accouting for the gigantic IQ difference.
dragonelite
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720p@60fps halo 5 then 343 really has given up on halo franchise then i can just as easily pretend next gen consoles don't exist for the next 2~3 years.
I can understand them doing the killzone route bell and whizles all on in singleplayer at 30fps and dumb down the graphics in multiplayer for 1080p@60fps. I want an sharp and fluid experience in multiplayer with old skool halo(1,2 and 3) gameplay. I have no worries 343 can deliver the 60fps and hopefully 1080p im more worried about the gameplay.
I sure they will still include a "low" preset for people who want to acrifice artifice for IQ.
What other one?Oh I'm sure it wont be the only launch game to run at 720p.
If you know something then I'd like to know.
velociraptor
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This, and it will look better than what is on the PS4.
And BF3 looks like absolute dogshit compared to KZ3 on the same console. See how that works?
Portugeezer
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They committed to 60fps locked at launch.
Lol when BF5 is 1080p30.
Lol when BF5 is 1080p30.
LiquidMetal14
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I want to mention KZ (24p online) again but then again, this is a 64p game.
I don't think this is as big a deal as some are making it as looks to be a step up from last gen but there's a little part of me which wanted at least 1080p.
Law Abiding Stranger
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The carnivale of stupid shows it's wonders again.
For majority of console owners 60FPS/720p will be a completely new world with a game like Battlefield, especially that $399 builds you a toaster PC if you don't have any parts.
EA does not care that few enthusiasts will get mad, niether they will state if it's just them being lazy or consoles limitations.
For majority of console owners 60FPS/720p will be a completely new world with a game like Battlefield, especially that $399 builds you a toaster PC if you don't have any parts.
EA does not care that few enthusiasts will get mad, niether they will state if it's just them being lazy or consoles limitations.
childplease
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They are both to blame no ? for trying to go the super affordable route and not thinking about the long term.
If only they spent a little more money and took a little bit more of a loss on each console.
Nope that didn't happen and as a result we got 2 consoles that probably can't run pc games from 2010 at max settings.
This is bad for everyone it will hold back pc gaming and console players will have subpar games.
What a bummer... I expected at least 1080p without AA... Upscale my ass. 720p upscaled looks like shit with jaggies and blurr. Amazing that it will be pretty close to its current gen version. No battlefield for me on consoles then. Killzone and CoD if its at 1080p and 60fps. DICE I thought you could do better...
alexandros
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It's not one game. It's a lot of titles that can't maintain a 60 fps refresh rate at 1080p despite the fact that a number of them are cross-gen and as such, limited in design by the hardware of the current-gen consoles.
1080p/60fps. Tone down other settings first like shadows, AF etc.
Whole thread of people who completely underestimated just how taxing 1080/60fps is on hardware. Next gen CPUs are weak compared to current desktops and bf3(soon to be 4) is a prime example of a cpu heavy game. What this announcement proves is that DICE has their priorities correct, take a hit to image quality in order to improve the gameplay. 30fps for a shooter is just unacceptable.
I played bf3 on a high end pc but will be picking up the console version this time.
I played bf3 on a high end pc but will be picking up the console version this time.
It's not as though mandating 1080p would guarantee 1080p60 games. BF4 is 720p for a reason: Dice wants 60fps and 1080p60 is untenable as this juncture.
Gameplay is more important than graphics, so I'd take the 720p. But this is essentially a PC game from 2 years ago being unable to run properly on a 'coded to the metal' console. It's not a good sign.
So it'll look shit then. No console game has ever had good AA.
Yeah it's a heck of a lot more players for one. Online is where the CPU will come in to play more. Look at the difference on PC between BF3 SP and MP benches.
Microsoft had games that were SubHD at launch. The TRC was never followed
Nobody's seen it publicly on consoles yet.
Is it really?
Yes, by dropping the detail, AA, post processed effects etc when we are talking about multiplayer. People seem to be painfully unaware how taxing bf3 was to hardware that is far more powerful than these consoles, especially with the need to maintain 60fps and 1080p. It scales all the way from the low to the very high end. The consoles are somewhere in between, and their output will be reflective of this.
Your definition of running fine clearly differs from mine.
What?
LukasTaves
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TheLegendOfMart
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$399.
A CPU/GPU would cost $399 alone that is capable of playing BF4 at 1080p at just 30FPS, all you are missing is mobo, RAM, HDD, case, powersupply, keyboard, mouse, OS.
Getting bored of how entitled gamers are, you are expecting FAR too much considering the cost.
It's definitely not my eyes. I never said I didn't notice the difference, I said the the difference does not impact my enjoyment or anything of the game what so ever.
I am just not sensitive to the 30fps/60fps difference.
Yes, but third parties were expected to follow it and the mandate was soon scrapped entirely, which was my point. It's no secret that Microsoft has a history of bending the rules when it comes to its first-party stable or privileged partners.
Dictator93
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I will be the first to say that there are a number of other factors involved in game engines that resolution bumps due to influence the "resolution/viewing distance" ratio.
All those articles only speak to television and movie viewing usually.
Ardenyal
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The scale is impressive, sure, but up close it looks same as BF3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryj5K49T2UI
TLOU was like a slideshow in some parts.
Canis lupus
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Resolution doesn't affect draw distance?
Dice has no hUMA.
fluffydelusions
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Expected really.
Forza Horizon has a beautiful image quality and great AA.
This is kind of bringing me back down to reality. I have been a hardcore PC gamer for about three years now, but I have been pretty set on making the swap back to console gaming with the PS4 despite being a graphics whore. Knowing that this game is going to be running at 720p reminds me that I have zero control over the graphics in console games, and that is kind of scary. I would love to get back into the ease of use atmosphere of console gaming, but not at the cost of ever having to deal with 720p again. I do most of my gaming on my living room TV, so I don't go beyond 1080p. Because of that I was more than happy with the current consoles having 1080p standard, but knowing that developers can and will drop things to 720p makes me wonder how long it is going to take for 720p to become the standard for console gaming again.
These consoles aren't the most powerful systems, and it isn't going to take long for developers to max out the CPUs and GPUs. Once they do that are we going to be back into a cycle of seeing massive cuts to resolution, AA, and v-sync? This is a real eye opener, and while I won't be that person that says "pre-order" cancelled, I sure am thinking much harder about it now. AMD is releasing their new GPU's in a little more than a month, and those things are sure to provide some pretty mean power for the price of a PS4, and probably come with a major game or two.
These consoles aren't the most powerful systems, and it isn't going to take long for developers to max out the CPUs and GPUs. Once they do that are we going to be back into a cycle of seeing massive cuts to resolution, AA, and v-sync? This is a real eye opener, and while I won't be that person that says "pre-order" cancelled, I sure am thinking much harder about it now. AMD is releasing their new GPU's in a little more than a month, and those things are sure to provide some pretty mean power for the price of a PS4, and probably come with a major game or two.
Portugeezer
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More likely is that EA isn't investing much into next gen platforms at launch.
Although PS4/Bone are similar to PC's, they feature the Jaguar CPU which probably requires them to tweak Frostbite 3. 720p just seems like the easy way out at launch to get a steady 60fps rather than spending more time reworking their engine.
New consoles don't work miracles. Increase in power is expected to improve graphics fidelity, framerate, resolution, etc. You can't have it all.
MrJustinius
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I run BF3 at 1080p 60fps with all Ultra settings apart from AA (FXAA only, no MSAA) and effects (set on high cause smoke causes frame drops on ultra here) with a HD 7850 quite easily.
I mean I've had to overclock it a fair bit to get it to run at Ultra settings but to run it at the High preset with a 7850 at 1080p60 out of the box is very achievable.
The PS4 also has a 7850 at a higher spec than stock and there's obvious optimisations for consoles so that factors into it too. The PS4 can do it, but I think DICE went for image quality and framerate > resolution here.