Battlefield 4 PS4 runs at 720p native [DICE: Incorrect]

Bluekaveli said:
Sucks to be FPS lovers. Feels good to be part of the master race though /s
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Anybody who is sensible to still pick this up on a next-gen console will probably have a ton of fun with it still. Most people aren't that big of graphics whores.

Ya know, the console vs PC wars here are just as bad as the Xbox vs PS wars.
 
Maybe a thread title update is necessary now that we know that BF4 does not run at 720p but at a higher resolution in the PS4 dev enviroment.

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/370894369404227584

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Im all in for next gen but a lack of footage running on the hardware themselves and devs struggling to hit frame rates and lower resolution is kind of meh. Damn you PC.
Next gen = current gen with same B.S just prettier graphics confirmed?
 
zma1013 said:
I really don't understand why they don't just let you choose your resolution and framerate. If it's possible to achieve 30fps at 1080p, put that in the settings. Let me choose between 720p @ 60fps or 1080p @ 30fps. I'm really not sure why consoles have to have solidified graphical settings.
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They want everyone to experience the same game I guess (on consoles I mean)
 
rafaelr said:
kinda suspected this, since they always explicitly mentioned 60fps for nextgen, but really never said anything about resolution.
i am disappoint nonetheless.
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Yeah, it was a big sign alright.

Not pleased. I personally would sacrifice 60fps for native 1080p, but I may be in the minority on that. ;p
 
Heavy said:
Be honest, how big of a load did you blow when you saw this thread title, Stevie? If anyone was unsure about StevieP's agenda, simply read this:


That's a direct reference to the quote from a Dice guy saying the Wii U had a "horrible, slow CPU" -- out of nowhere the dude brings up the Wii U.

So what happened over these past few months is that many Nintendo fans came to the salvation of downplaying next-gen consoles and fellating PCs after the Wii U was confirmed to be dreadfully underpowered compared to its competition. It's one of the most disingenuous trends I've ever seen here. StevieP is an enormous Nintendude, just huge. His entire post history is either defending Nintendo & the Wii U or indirectly defending Nintendo & the Wii U by downplaying the next-gen consoles. He resorts to the safety net of referencing the PC and its graphics advantage over and over... and over to avoid any real backlash. Lots of Nintendo fans here have resorted to this all because it makes the Wii U look better, that's the bottom line. Console wars. We are witnessing devious strategies that one couldn't have fathomed back at the start last gen. We've gone nuclear.
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Heh, I knew he had an agenda.

Honestly, some of these posters are getting very annoying on GAF.

A 7850 should run this game perfectly OK.

This isn't a problem with the hardware (well, the CPU is underpowered, but the CPU plays no role in enforcing 1080p).

The problem lies with DICE.

spannicus said:
Im all in for next gen but a lack of footage running on the hardware themselves and devs struggling to hit frame rates and lower resolution is kind of meh. Damn you PC.
Next gen = current gen with same B.S just prettier graphics confirmed?
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Next gen = Current gen PC graphics.
 
Why would I give a ... what the resolution is ?

The game looks extremely beautiful, how they choose to achieve that is their business. Focusing on one of hundreds of variables that determine the looks of a game seems pointless to me.
 
Seanspeed said:
And Killzone looking better is just your opinion.
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I'm not the only who thinks in that line. IQ is better on consoles. 1080P seals that one for KZ. I'm hoping somehow DICE can get BF4 to 1080p or at least closer to it than 720p by launch.

Gemüsepizza;77908573 said:
Maybe a thread title update is necessary now that we know that BF4 does not run at 720p but at a higher resolution in the PS4 dev enviroment.

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/370894369404227584

jackbf4dks95.png
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Then there's this.
 
Sucks since I thought it was already confirmed 1080p but also not that surprising considering the scale and push for 60fps.

Still want to get it day one.

Lagspike_exe said:
Embarrasing. If Killzone can pull out 1080p and probably 60 FPS in multiplayer, so should they.
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SMH. What one dev is able to accomplish has nothing to do with what another studio can. I've been trying to keep up but does KZ have 64 players, massive battlefields, destruction, and huge amounts of vehicles all in the same online match? If not, then these two games should never be compared.

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SmoothRunningGun said:
Lol. Seriously 1080p should be the standard for next gen.
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No it should not. There should be no standard resolution for any system next gen. Doing so will limit what you can do with these consoles.
 
NathanCX said:
To be fair I doubt Killzone's maps will be as large or have the physics included of the Battlefield games.

This is unfortunate though, I do expect Xbox One fans to claim that the native is 1080p on Xbox One for a while.
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No, it's already been confirmed to be 720P native on X1. In this very thread actually.
 
MrJustinius said:
It makes sense to me. Frostbite 3 isn't a huge step up compared with Frostbite 2. Kinda like what happened with CryEngine 2 (Crysis) and CryEngine 3 (Crysis 2 and 3). As it's well optimised anyone running BF3 at high settings now should expect similar with BF4. You might have to drop a few settings but nothing drastic.
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Different GPU, but a standard GTX 660 (not Ti) is roughly on par in terms of TFLOPS, It can run BF3 on Ultra at around 45-50fps, That's pretty good considering. Just makes me wonder what exactly is going on with the PS4 version.
 
Seanspeed said:
Needs to be in the OP if its not already. So many people just running away with this, saying they're not going to buy it and bashing DICE and whatnot.
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It's really for nothing anyways. Most will not even care but even for us on here who are more enthusiast gamers, he 720p baseline will be good enough as long as we get the improved visuals and 64p online.
 
Why are people using Killzone as a counterpoint when shown footage indicates that it can't even maintain 30fps?

Why do people expect this restriction to be due to alpha only? This is a mature engine on a mature hardware architecture...we're not going to be seeing any massive jumps in performance within the next few months. If they do bring it at 1080p/60fps, it's going to be due to compromises being taken.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
I'm not the only who things that. IQ is better on consoles. 1080P seals that one for KZ. I'm hoping somehow DICE can get BF4 to 1080p or at least closer to it than 720p by launch.
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Well shit. I'm sure I can find somebody else who thinks Battlefield looks better, too.

What then?

And higher resolution doesn't automatically equal better image quality if everything else isn't equal. Killzone *might* have better image quality on the consoles, but you don't know that yet. You're just changing the goalposts and making assumptions. As for Killzone vs BF4 in general, I'm not sure Killzone looks better. Hell, Battlefield 3 is still a contender for best looking game out there.
 
Seanspeed said:
Well shit. I'm sure I can find somebody else who thinks Battlefield looks better, too.

What then?

And higher resolution doesn't automatically equal better image quality if everything else isn't equal. Killzone *might* have better image quality on the consoles, but you don't know that yet. You're just changing the goalposts and making assumptions. As for Killzone vs BF4 in general, I'm not sure Killzone looks better. Hell, Battlefield 3 is still a contender for best looking game out there.
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On PC you are right. From what I've seen KZ not only has higher IQ but just as much if not more rendering effects going for it. Is it right to compare? I don't know or care. After seeing the tons of info GG has released including their slides and seeing the game in action, I'm giving the edge for consoles to KZ.

On PC, it's a moot point.

There is no goal post moving. I've said this from the moment I saw enough to judge. But again, PC is its own beast.
 
DieH@rd said:
If this is true, same will happen on Xbone...
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This is my favorite post in here. Because if this thread was about the xbox one running at this..the first post would be like "so glad im getting a ps4 so much better"

But yes, the consoles are going to be identical

Stop crying about 720p, it looks fine..you all have seen the game!
 
puzl said:
If you honestly can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, especially in fast-paced FPS', then your problem isn't psychological - it's physical. Get your eyes checked.
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He never said he couldn't tell the difference, just that it doesn't affect enjoyment. Agreed.
 
To those saying that bf3 runs silky smooth on their low-mid to mid-end hardware, do we even know if bf4 will perform similarly? I know my 6970 was able to manage well in singleplayer max with fxaa, but it also had difficulty in heavy multiplayer matches.
 
Heavy said:
Be honest, how big of a load did you blow when you saw this thread title, Stevie? If anyone was unsure about StevieP's agenda, simply read this:


That's a direct reference to the quote from a Dice guy saying the Wii U had a "horrible, slow CPU" -- out of nowhere the dude brings up the Wii U.

So what happened over these past few months is that many Nintendo fans came to the salvation of downplaying next-gen consoles and fellating PCs after the Wii U was confirmed to be dreadfully underpowered compared to its competition. It's one of the most disingenuous trends I've ever seen here. StevieP is an enormous Nintendude, just huge. His entire post history is either defending Nintendo & the Wii U or indirectly defending Nintendo & the Wii U by downplaying the next-gen consoles. He resorts to the safety net of referencing the PC and its graphics advantage over and over... and over to avoid any real backlash. Lots of Nintendo fans here have resorted to this all because it makes the Wii U look better, that's the bottom line. Console wars. We are witnessing devious strategies that one couldn't have fathomed back at the start last gen. We've gone nuclear.
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Holy shit. That's kind of amazing. haha
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
On PC you are right. From what I've seen KZ not only has higher IQ but just as much if not more rendering effects going for it. Is it right to compare? I don't know or care. After seeing the tons of info GG has released including their slides and seeing the game in action, I'm giving the edge for consoles to KZ.

On PC, it's a moot point.

There is no goal post moving. I've said this from the moment I saw enough to judge. But again, PC is its own beast.
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We've hardly seen BF4 on the consoles. Pretty sure all we've got was that one stream, which is a very, very poor way to get an idea of a game's true image quality.

When you made the comparison, I had to assume you were talking about the PC version of BF4 cuz that's the only one we've seen properly so far.
 
velociraptor said:
Heh, I knew he had an agenda.

Honestly, some of these posters are getting very annoying on GAF.
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There is no agenda, actually, despite Heavy's assertions.

The PS4 is the most powerful console this generation. It is not, however, as powerful as a high end PC and will not produce results equal to that PC. Something that some folks don't understand.

As ghst pointed out earlier, if you prod the DICE you get the truth. That was what that "horrible, slow CPU" reference was for. In comparison to Intel's current offerings, and AMD's high end - these are all running low end gear. Some much lower than others.

Perhaps yourself and Heavy should read the statements made by me in this thread and respond to those, instead of attempting character assassination. Especially Heavy, who would be too easy a target if one were to go through posting history (of which you are free to do for me, btw - you'll see a lot of accuracy).

Or, as mods would put it, "respond to the content of the post, not the poster".

SniperHunter said:
Really fantastic post. StevieP is one of the most annoying posters on gaf. I remember how he used to defend Wii U/Project Cafe before the official specs were revealed....
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Did you read the part where a friend of mine (BG) was stating "600gf" for the Wii U GPU, and I said "no, it is much lower" in those threads, then? No? Go through the post history.

We've hardly seen BF4 on the consoles.
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We HAVEN'T seen BF4 on the consoles.
 
Heavy said:
Be honest, how big of a load did you blow when you saw this thread title, Stevie? If anyone was unsure about StevieP's agenda, simply read this:


That's a direct reference to the quote from a Dice guy saying the Wii U had a "horrible, slow CPU" -- out of nowhere the dude brings up the Wii U.

So what happened over these past few months is that many Nintendo fans came to the salvation of downplaying next-gen consoles and fellating PCs after the Wii U was confirmed to be dreadfully underpowered compared to its competition. It's one of the most disingenuous trends I've ever seen here. StevieP is an enormous Nintendude, just huge. His entire post history is either defending Nintendo & the Wii U or indirectly defending Nintendo & the Wii U by downplaying the next-gen consoles. He resorts to the safety net of referencing the PC and its graphics advantage over and over... and over to avoid any real backlash. Lots of Nintendo fans here have resorted to this all because it makes the Wii U look better, that's the bottom line. Console wars. We are witnessing devious strategies that one couldn't have fathomed back at the start last gen. We've gone nuclear.
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That's a bold statement. Conspiracies and intrigue run high in these times of new consoles. No one is safe.
 
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