Has Sony dropped the ball with no showpiece fighter available at launch?

zainetor said:
yeah, thank halo for making an Fps a flagship title of a japanese console.
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Maybe you didn't understand what you read, or maybe you just have odd views, but Halo was the first flagship shooter headlining a major console release. What happened in the following generations? PS3 - Resistance, 360 - PDZ, PS4 - Killzone and X-Box One - Titanfall (though not launch, it is clearly the flagship launch window title).

So what are you going on about again? The only contrary examples you have are Nintendo systems. Fighting games don't hold much sway, fight me about if you want, but it's the truth.
 
Chavelo said:
Since when did the big three start using FIGHTERS of all genres to showcase their console?

O.o
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Guess you weren't around the the Xbox launch. Other than Halo DOA3 was the showcase.

It doesn't affect me any 'cuz I'm not getting a PS4 anytime too soon, but hopefully they get a new fighter in the first year or so. LIke Guilty Gear Xrd.
 
Bgamer90 said:
Heh, how come this gets stated in so many PS4 threads that aren't 100% positive?

I don't think the OP is trying to make something up for a "PS4 doomed" thread -- he/she would just like a new fighter for the PS4's launch.
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That's how the OP comes off though, with the whole, "Sony dropped the ball" schtick, even though fighters haven't been a measuring stick for console potential in ages.
 
Byakuya769 said:
Maybe you didn't understand what you read, or maybe you just have odd views, but Halo was the first flagship shooter headlining a major console release. What happened in the following generations? PS3 - Resistance, 360 - PDZ, PS4 - Killzone and X-Box One - Titanfall (though not launch, it is clearly the flagship launch window title).

So what are you going on about again? The only contrary examples you have are Nintendo systems. Fighting games don't hold much sway, fight me about if you want, but it's the truth.
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Ms has Always offered a racer a fighting game and an fps in their launch line ups.
Nobody fprced sony to make an fps, the most important game of thei line up.

Isnt it supposed to be a japanese console? Am I the only one that is baffled by that?
 
Mesoian said:
The fact that Capcom fighters are the only ones anyone cares about on a higher level. MK9 was there for a while but the constant updating and the borked DLC and the bad online...People got sick of having to relearn the game every week because each new piece of content NR put out was broken. That and that game was unbalanced for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time before things got evened out.

SF4 is still seen as the pinnacle of fighting games this generation. Whether your like it or hate it, you can't argue that it's a very well built game that rewards smart play rather than execution. And even though Marvel is fucking stupid (because it's fucking stupid) it's exciting and fun to play. At an anime con I went to last week, people just stopped as they walked by the game room and ended up circling around the marvel station watching people play because what was going on on the screen was crazy. No other game has gotten to that point. High level injustice is fucking boring. High level Smash is confusing (though still pretty cool). High level KOF13 is EXTREMELY technical and so hard to do for the average player that most people simply don't care about it, if they understand it at all.

Capcom is very good when it comes to striking the balance between the layman and the expert and is good about creating a playing field that is interesting, most so than other game developers. It's why people get so mad at them when they do dumb shit like not supporting their games through DLC in order to sell another physical copy, or when they refuse to patch their games or when they don't market their shit so people don't even realize it's out.

I never thought I'd be excited about Ultra SF4, but...I am I guess. It's nuts.

Ya ha.

People say that MvsC3 is hard, but I think that's because they never got the explanation that every character has basically the same beginner combo. MvsC3 is the most accessible fighting game in YEARS (edit: except maybe Persona 4A)
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Thanks for the explanation. Looks like I'll just have to hope that Killer Instinct or Guilty Gear Xrd manage to amass the tournament audience's interest, because those games look like a lot of fun.
 
i don't think fighting games have been a system seller for a long time.

are people that impressed by KI other than particle effects? i mean graphical showcase? is it really? maybe i need to see it in person or something.
 
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She's going to show you her piece
 
The last and only time a fighter mattered (only a little bit) at a launch was Battle Arena Toshinden for the PSX.
Saying Sony dropped the ball because they don't have a fighting game at launch is like saying that Sony dropped the ball because they don't have a 2D platformer at launch.
 
CurlySaysX said:
The last and only time a fighter mattered (only a little bit) at a launch was Battle Arena Toshinden for the PSX.
Saying Sony dropped the ball because they don't have a fighting game at launch is like saying that Sony dropped the ball because they don't have a 2D platformer at launch.
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I would say that Tekken Tag was a pretty good launch title for PS2. I think that was pretty much at the height of Tekken's popularity though?
 
KI looks awesome. It makes me want a Xbone. That said I'll take the better system and Killzone he the real head turner this fall.
 
Fighting games used to be a launch showpiece for companies, back when VF and Tekken were all the rage and Nintendo even came up with Killer instinct...but they have since been replaced by FPS'.
 
Skilletor said:
Since every generation before this one?

SoulCalibur (DC)
TTT1 (PS2)
DoA3 (Xbox)
DoA4 (360)


Tekken has always been heavily featured in Sony's CG "target renderings."

:P
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DoA4 was not a launch title for 360. I remember playing RR6 and Perfect Dark Zero to kill time waiting for the damn game to come out.
 
It would've been awesome to play Xrd at launch. There isn't any fighter coming this year that's gonna pull me away from what I'm currently playing which is unfortunate.
 
I don't think so. Fighting games takes forever to make. The more characters and mechanics the more balancing it needs. I'd rather have companies take their time and get it right instead of releasing them half-ass. In Sony's case, remember the days when they couldn't give two craps about fighters or even 2d games in general? I still think that applies somewhat. As idiotic as Microsoft is these days I think they have more of a grasp and appreciation of the genre.
 
Kadey said:
I don't think so. Fighting games takes forever to make. The more characters and mechanics the more balancing it needs. I'd rather have companies take their time and get it right instead of releasing them half-ass. In Sony's case, remember the days when they couldn't give two craps about fighters or even 2d games in general? I still think that applies somewhat. As idiotic as Microsoft is these days I think they have more of a grasp and appreciation of the genre.
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They see an opening into the growing "eSports" market and it's why you hear rumblings of Killer Instinct showing up as EVO and MLG title. If most of the West's favorite fighters and shooters are multiplat titles, XBone can be "the preferred console of ____" if they get in there first.
 
There's way too much thread whining going on ITT. It's a very fair question and shitting on the thread by not actually discussing the points made is not OK. See this:
Krakn3Dfx said:
Oh good, the sequel to "Sony Dropped the Ball with their First Party Launch Window."
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Responses like this are just garbage, I don't see a way that that isn't thread whining and there's a lot more like that. People pretty much ignoring the points made by assuming that criticism of the PS4 must be agenda-driven hurt discussion quite a bit, if you're in a topic you discuss what it's about or don't post.

SFIV 3DS sold a million copies and wasn't even an original game like KI. With the PS4 not having an exclusive fighting or racing game and the Xbox One having a pretty big one of each this obviously merits discussion.
 
When people say they want the new Killer Instinct, what they're actually saying is "I want to play the next game from the studio that has released one mediocre Silent Hill game and a whole bunch of shit."
 
They haven't dropped the ball at all.

It would be absolutely great if they helped Capcom upgrade Ultra Street Fighter IV for PS4 release, though. It would be a pretty smart move, I think.
 
Roto13 said:
Name one good game they've made that isn't Silent Hill: Homecoming.
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Why can't he count that? You can't leave Silent Hill out just because it's a good game that they made. That totally renders your point...pointless.

And besides, there's a lot more riding on KI being successful. Their other games have all just been movie tie-ins. I'm not saying it won't be bad, but it definitely still has a chance.
 
Possum said:
Why can't he count that? You can't leave Silent Hill out just because it's a good game that they made. That totally renders your point...pointless.

And besides, there's a lot more riding on KI being successful. Their other games have all just been movie tie-ins. I'm not saying it won't be bad, but it definitely still has a chance.
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You're free to count Silent Hill them making a good game, though I think even that's being a bit generous. My point is they've only made the one, and about a dozen turds. If that somehow inspires confidence in you, I think you might be a little bit weird.
 
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