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‘Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny’ Whips Up $130 Million Loss For Disney
Robot Carnival
Member
honestly, I don't think it's even a matter or going woke or not. it's just bad story writing. even if it's changed to a god son instead of daughter, and keep the rest of the details, it'll still be shit. what a waste of the cast.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Crystal Skull in 2008 was bad enough. Harrison ford was already an old man who could barely move and speak.
But they milked it hoping for one last hurrah with an 80 year old Ford.
But they milked it hoping for one last hurrah with an 80 year old Ford.
NickFire
Member
If stories have to be written a certain way, then the bad stories are a product of the requirements imposed.
I dunno, I can see where they could have kept 85-95% of the script as written but changed the PWB character to a male co-star with some actual action film cred (or hell, just brought back Ke Huy Quan as Short Round) and they would have gotten another 200-300 mill at the BO, minimum.
A 400 mill budget for Indy (or any film really, not called Avatar) is fucking dumb but the bizarre choice to pair him with a profoundly unlikable woman character deep sixed the film from the very start.
JimmyRustler
Member
It’s the fact that the franchise was simply over. Lost Crusade was perfect and has the perfect ending with all of them riding into the sunset. Spielberg himself said so. It should have never been resurrected.
Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
Can't wait to find out what The Marvels and Wish lost. Wonder how long it takes for them to turn a profit on disc, TV, and streaming.
The Wandering Earth II released the same year, and had the most stunning de-aging effects I've ever seen. Even better than those face swaps at the start of Dark Fate.
The Wandering Earth II released the same year, and had the most stunning de-aging effects I've ever seen. Even better than those face swaps at the start of Dark Fate.
ssringo
Gold Member
I kinda did too. It's not a good movie by any means but there's just enough nostalgia bait and chemistry between Indy and Marion that I didn't hate it despite some really stupid stuff elsewhere.
touchfuzzy
Member
Same thing happened to Crystal Skull as the Star Wars prequel trilogy, they were hated at the time, now they've gone and somehow made even worse sequels so those ones are looked at a little more fondly.
Ulysses 31
Member
Likely the losses are over 200 Million, all things considered.
Saber
Member
And some people were like "no it's not a bad movie and yes, they still happen to make money out of it".
I honestly hope theres more cases like that you know. Yes, keep damaging and destroying well know franchises, that will work out. Hope Star Wars is next.
The problem is that its aways because it's a "bad movie", every single time. Same thing was said about Buzzlighter.
I honestly hope theres more cases like that you know. Yes, keep damaging and destroying well know franchises, that will work out. Hope Star Wars is next.
The problem is that its aways because it's a "bad movie", every single time. Same thing was said about Buzzlighter.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Good thing I didn't watch any of them.
LaughingStock
Member
Crystal Skull was garbage and Ford was already too old for the role.
I will never watch Dial of Dysentery.
I will never watch Dial of Dysentery.
Mossybrew
Banned
Yeah after Crystal Skull I was done. Haven't seen this new one and I doubt I will ever bother.
ThatStupidLion
Member
Just saw talk of naked gun reboot…
Not sure if that means were midgen or nearing the end…
Oberstein
Member
And to think that the license was hugely popular in the 80s and 90s, what a shame. If, back then, we'd been told we'd be getting an Indiana 4, it would have been an outburst of joy.
Now the new generations don't give a damn, and the old fans hate - and rightly so - the new films. As for the Picard series with Patrick Stewart, the actor is too old and it's just sad to watch. Not to mention the quality of the writing, which has gone to shit.
Sometimes it's better to leave memories where they are.
Now the new generations don't give a damn, and the old fans hate - and rightly so - the new films. As for the Picard series with Patrick Stewart, the actor is too old and it's just sad to watch. Not to mention the quality of the writing, which has gone to shit.
Sometimes it's better to leave memories where they are.
Mistake
Member
Girl boss movies and shows do get watched by women, but the problem is that it comes at the expense of a male audience. If my gf didn't take me to this movie, I wouldn't have bothered.
Also, the female lead in this movie came off as a huge cunt, with little redemption
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I still haven’t seen dial of destiny but for laughs maybe I’ll find a copy on my stream box.
The Stig
Banned
Oberstein
Member
The first two seasons of Picard are literally crap. As for the third, which is praised, it's a step above, but there's so much nonsense that I can't get past it.
The Stig
Banned
yeah i hated season 2 also.
Revolutionary
Gold Member
The game is going to be an even bigger loss in percentage
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Sybrix
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Nydius
Member
Younger generations don't care about Indiana Jones movies. Those are their parents or grandparents movies. Shoving in "for modern audiences" social justice stuff isn't going to make an octogenarian playing action hero any more appealing to younger audiences; Conversely, shoving that stuff in will push away the very demographics who would be nostalgic for Indiana Jones.
Hollywood needs to understand that not every successful former franchise needs to be continued or rebooted.
Sometimes their popularity is due to the time they were originally made, and those variables can't be recreated.
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For all three seasons, Stewart was arguably the worst actor in the show named after his character.
Hollywood needs to understand that not every successful former franchise needs to be continued or rebooted.
Sometimes their popularity is due to the time they were originally made, and those variables can't be recreated.
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Why? He's not wrong. Like Harrison Ford, Patrick Stewart is barely "acting" at this point anymore due to age.
For all three seasons, Stewart was arguably the worst actor in the show named after his character.
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Pejo
Gold Member
My gf bugged and bugged me to go see it at the theater with her, despite my insistence that it was gonna be a shit movie that has modern Panderverse Disney slop shat out all over it.
Turns out she fell asleep around the the boat part and didn't even watch the last section, in the theater.
Utter contrived pandering shit. I didn't particularly like Crystal Skull either, I don't even know which of the two was worse. At least Crystal Skull gave me this cinema magic:
Turns out she fell asleep around the the boat part and didn't even watch the last section, in the theater.
Utter contrived pandering shit. I didn't particularly like Crystal Skull either, I don't even know which of the two was worse. At least Crystal Skull gave me this cinema magic:
The movie should have been old Indy telling his students about an adventure he had when he was younger. Then cut to the younger Indy we got in the opening for the remainder of the movie until the very end which then goes back to him in his class now only talking to a handful of students because the rest left believing he was making it all up. "Did that really happen SIr' says a curious student. "That's how I remember it kid'. Fade to black.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Within a generation Disney might just collapse enough for a total overhaul, mass firing of execs, and rebirth. Doubtful, but a man can dream.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
It did for me. I refused to even see this one. Pointless milking of a long-dead franchise.
Unknown Soldier
Member
They should have stopped after the original trilogy, but they also should have stopped making Terminator and Alien films after the first 2 and well Hollywood can't help themselves
They also should have stopped making Pirates of the Caribbean films after the original trilogy too, Disney just doesn't know when to stop
Also the Disney Star Wars Trilogy was absolute flaming dogshit and almost killed that whole franchise which is an admirable accomplishment if you think about how culturally iconic Star Wars is
They also should have stopped making Pirates of the Caribbean films after the original trilogy too, Disney just doesn't know when to stop
Also the Disney Star Wars Trilogy was absolute flaming dogshit and almost killed that whole franchise which is an admirable accomplishment if you think about how culturally iconic Star Wars is
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VulcanRaven
Member
They waited too long after Crystal Skull. They shouldn't have waited 15 years.
FunkMiller
Banned
Never mind!
Disney have very definitely learned their lesson and won’t -
…oh, for the love of crap.
Disney have very definitely learned their lesson and won’t -
…oh, for the love of crap.
ThatStupidLion
Member
Liam neeson
VulcanRaven
Member
Never mind!
Disney have very definitely learned their lesson and won’t -
…oh, for the love of crap.
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Insane Metal
Member
Keep getting fucked, Disney.
Braag
Member
Disney has nothing that interests me these days, which is weird cause I like Star Wars and some of the marvel characters. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna watch the trash they put out currently.
Acolyte looks completely insufferable and their marvel movies have been tiresome for a while now. Shogun looks good though, I might check that out eventually.
Acolyte looks completely insufferable and their marvel movies have been tiresome for a while now. Shogun looks good though, I might check that out eventually.
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