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BoboBrazil said:
They are bringing him back as a guest host originally. I'm sure he'll be on long before the end of the show.
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1/4 Wrasslin' thread of Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, and the new Monday Night Wars (lol)
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They are bringing him back as a guest host originally. I'm sure he'll be on long before the end of the show.
Lost Fragment
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I'm predicting: backstage segments talking about Bret for an hour, then Bret comes out at the beginning of hour 2.
BoboBrazil
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Yep they'll probably do the hour of wrestlers going "oh shit is he really coming?" followed by the limo pull up with Bret inside, followed by him walking to his dressing room, insert more reactions by HHH/HBK, then finally he comes out at the end of the show.
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I want someone to bring back WCW Raven with his Flock and all. Man I loved Raven back then. I almost said Benoit should go to TNA but then I remembered what happened 
Yeah there is no way they would let Benoit back after that. Owen would still be in the clear.MyFaceIsOnFire said:I want someone to bring back WCW Raven with his Flock and all. Man I loved Raven back then. I almost said Benoit should go to TNA but then I remembered what happened
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xero273 said:
So you mean HBK hits sweet chin music and then puts Bret in the sharpshooter? I would actually stand on my couch and clap.
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YES!MyFaceIsOnFire said:I want someone to bring back WCW Raven with his Flock and all. Man I loved Raven back then. I almost said Benoit should go to TNA but then I remembered what happened
That'd be so cool... they rocked. Some of the wrestlers were awful though.
Love Kidman, Kanyon and Saturn though. Kanyon did one hell of a STO.
Let's hope Raven will stick around TNA and drop a couple lbs.
Am I the only one expecting total disappointment from both shows tomorrow? WWE sure as hell isn't going to change. TNA is going to be the same shit with some new faces on television, but nothing out of the ordinary. I'm just not that excited about Bret Hart. He's not going to do anything in any real capacity outside of talking and maybe some minor things in the ring. I just think everyone is hyping themselves up for failure tomorrow.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Then turn East.JdFoX187 said:
Fan Event for the Dome Show
BobTheFork
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Wait, is that Abby? Holy shit if so, I didn't know he was still going.
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Fatalah said:You just named the whole flock. Kidman, Kanyon, Saturn... all awesome. Speaking of Perry Saturn--- is he still missing?
Edit: Nevermind.
You know he puts the rings of Saturn on her in bed. Or is that his daughter? Probably doesn't matter.
Buckethead
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Fatalah said:
Holy shit :lol
That makes me sad.
But what about Sick Boy, Riggs, Lodi etc., etc?
Also was missing Stevie but he went back to E-C-Dub.
Well Hart is supposed to be the "guest host" where he more or less runs the show, so it would be incredibly strange for him to only appear at the end. Sometimes they just have pretaped segments with the guest host, and then he only comes out at the end, but I highly doubt they pull that with Bret Hart.
It's going to be surreal when this music plays:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67Zf3FYtPo&feature=related
It's going to be surreal when this music plays:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67Zf3FYtPo&feature=related
BoboBrazil
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Raven kind of has a new flock going in TNA with Stevie and Daffney. Raven's look sucks now though. The dreadlocks and color in them are horrible.
Raven's flock was one of my favorite wrestling cliques of all time. Kanyon was cool (hated the whole Mortis mortal kombat thing he had going at first and was really glad when they changed that) Billy Kidman was awesome as a high flyer (7 year itch was sweet) and Saturn just looked like a freak in that skirt he would wear. They were awesome.
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BobTheFork said:
Yep he's facing off against Terry in an 8 man tag in the Tokyo Dome in a couple of hours.
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JdFoX187 said:
I'm hyped for Bret, the guy was my hero when was 10-12. I always thought he was good and intense on the mic, so I think he can still be entertaining even in this limited capacity. And I also think (hope?) that he wouldn't agree to do this if they didn't have a solid angle for him.
But yeah, I can't shake the feeling that I'm going to be disappointed anyway, even if they do the best they can. It's not really Bret's fault or even the WWE's... there's just no way this comeback can match the optimal, fantasy comeback in my head, where he can still wrestle, or at least just beat up some people and take a bump. I'm sure he'd still be good in the ring, even at 52, if he had remained healthy. More than any other wrestler that could make an epic comeback, he's a guy that built his reputation on in-ring ability, and I know he can't go anymore. It's going to be the sad elephant in the room when I'm watching the show tomorrow. What could have been?
There's also the issue of "has it been too long"? Look at how many young fans there are in WWE crowds. How many will really appreciate his presence and significance? This has all happened so fast, they really haven't had time to build anticipation up to a fever pitch and educate the fans. I wish they could have had him come back in Canada.
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In addition to Bret, WWE has the Jerishow/DX rematch for the Unified Tag Titles and Kofi/Orton, both of which are the potential blow offs to the feuds. Also, John Cena is doing the ceremonial coin toss at the Fiesta Bowl, so he won't be at the arena, although they'll probably have him involved somehow.
Besides Hogan, TNA has announced 2 Knockout matches: ODB vs Tara for the Knockout title and Sarita/Taylor Wilde vs Awesome Kong/Hamada for the Knockout Tag titles. They've also announced the return of the Steel Asylum for the X-Division title, but the only participant we know of will be Amazing Red since he's the champ. (For those that don't know, the Steel Asylum is a domed cage with a small hole at the top. The winner has to climb out of the hole to win, which leads to a lot of upside down hanging and crawling. They've only done 2 before and they were exciting, but there's lots of participants so it's a bit of a clusterfuck spotfest.)
Speaking of gimmick matches...why hasn't anyone gone back to Wargames: The Match Beyond? That shit was awesome back in the day. Of course, when they started putting in guys who can't work, it sucked, but the first two are absolute classics.
Check it out.
War Games: The Match Beyond I. July 4th 1987. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blachard, Lex Lugar and James J. Dillion vs. Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff, Hawk, Animal and Paul Ellering.
The crowd was so awesome for this match. Everything the faces hit go big "OOO!" from the crowd. :lol
Check it out.
War Games: The Match Beyond I. July 4th 1987. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blachard, Lex Lugar and James J. Dillion vs. Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff, Hawk, Animal and Paul Ellering.
The crowd was so awesome for this match. Everything the faces hit go big "OOO!" from the crowd. :lol
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Listened to Hogan on the Bob & Tom show this morning and the first thing he did was cut a huge promo, semi-in-character about how Flair left a message on his answering machine last night being mad at Hogan for not being invited to Impact. Really gave you the impression that Flair is going to "crash" Impact tonight.
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Oh boy, more old people.
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No not reallyWrath2X said:
BillRiccio
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source: www.f4wonline.com
Regarding Shawn Michaels' outlook on real-life rival Bret Hart returning to World Wrestling Entertainment, he is said to be happy that the "Hitman" is coming back and is more than willing to bury whatever hatchet there is between them.
On the flip side, Triple H has been telling people he doesn't want Hart back in WWE and that he hopes his return to the company fails. Considering that his wife, Stephanie McMahon-Levesque, is head of creative in the company, it would appear that Vince McMahon may have to overrule his daughter and son-in-law if his storyline with Hart is to be a success. Providing things go well, a Hart vs. McMahon blow-off will be taking place at WrestleMania.
Regarding Shawn Michaels' outlook on real-life rival Bret Hart returning to World Wrestling Entertainment, he is said to be happy that the "Hitman" is coming back and is more than willing to bury whatever hatchet there is between them.
On the flip side, Triple H has been telling people he doesn't want Hart back in WWE and that he hopes his return to the company fails. Considering that his wife, Stephanie McMahon-Levesque, is head of creative in the company, it would appear that Vince McMahon may have to overrule his daughter and son-in-law if his storyline with Hart is to be a success. Providing things go well, a Hart vs. McMahon blow-off will be taking place at WrestleMania.
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On a talk show in Canada, when the host asked what Bret thought of HHH (this interview was done in 2003 or 2002), Bret said something along the lines of HHH being the biggest ass kisser.
I guess things have always been icy between them. After all, HHH was the one who suggested they screw Bret.
I guess things have always been icy between them. After all, HHH was the one who suggested they screw Bret.
The Frankman
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Is Triple H really trying to kill off Bret Hart? BRET HART? Fuck you, ya giant de-pusher.
Lost Fragment
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Damn, I can't believe I agree with a Mark Madden article.
But yeah, he sums up how I feel about the whole situation perfectly. The feeling reminds me of how I felt back when WCW was doing its "reboot." Like, I really, really, really wanted it to be awesome, but I knew deep down that it wasn't going to be.
But yeah, he sums up how I feel about the whole situation perfectly. The feeling reminds me of how I felt back when WCW was doing its "reboot." Like, I really, really, really wanted it to be awesome, but I knew deep down that it wasn't going to be.
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They claimed 41,500 for the dome show, which even papered is pretty damn good.
BillRiccio
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PWInsider.com reports that one of the surprises on January 4 could be the debut of "The American Dragon" Bryan Danielson. Apparently WWE is very well aware of Danielson's popularity among internet wrestling community and the early debut of him is another response to TNA.
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I have to convert those times to Argentina time zone.
Going to be sick! WWE is going to step up their game! And dont bury the best heel of the year just because he didnt wear a suit!!
EDIT: If any Argentino is lurking, here you have the converted time
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thefro said:
shane
oh how I missed fantasy booking :lol ...
cartoon_soldier
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BillRiccio said:
Believe me, Vince will burry HHH and his daughter for the sake of business.
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Lost Fragment said:
I don't really get that mentality. So Bret is coming back to WWE and that's enough to make some forget that RAW has been a disaster for who knows how long now? He's going to be one part of a two hour show. RAW always manages to have something entertaining in that two hours, it's hard not to. But the problem is that they can't put on a full show that's entertaining. This is the same show that very recently put on the trash that was Little People's Court. The same show that trots around (a neutered) Degeneration X like they're still relevant. And then you have your weekly Cena debacle.
My expectations for TNA aren't all that high though. I just expect it to be better than RAW. Largely because it actually seems like they're trying, which is more than I can say for what goes on with RAW.
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