zychi said:I totally agree, but "carrying his team" also hurt him in my eyes. When he had to take the load the Lakers didn't win. He had to pass the load onto Gasol, or Shaq. I have Clyde up higher then Kobe because Clyde played a better overall NBA. He played in the Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, Bulls dynasties era. Kobe's been in 7 of the 1x title games since he's been in the league, and was the finals mvp in 09 and 10(and he was handed this one because Gasol deserved it more). And the only other teams to win titles are Duncan's, Wade's(old Shaq), Detroit(who beat an old Shaq and a "carrying the load Kobe") and the Celtics(who beat Kobe).
Kobe is also playing in the "don't touch me I'll flop" era of the NBA, where Clyde played with the hard fouling Pistons and shitty wood floor arenas.
Clyde had it harder then Kobe did, which, right now makes it Clyde>Kobe SG wise for me.
Me too, we should hi-five each other.viakado said:there's jizz on my hands folk.
God damn I love Kobe. I got my dick in a sock for protectionviakado said:there's jizz on my hands folk.
Ninja Scooter said:So Clyde is better because everyone AROUND him (Jordan, Magic, Bulls, the Pistons, the Lakers) did great things, but he didn't, so by proxy that makes him great? Makes sense. Also the West was actually secretly kinda weak during Clyde's career, which is why the Lakers made the Finals like 9 times in that span. And Clyde himself didn't make it to the Finals until Magic got HIV and the teams started getting even weaker.
Also like I said, Kobe having a great teammate is always a knock. He's the only guy that argument is used against. Like Scottie didn't pick up a ton of the "slack" for Michael, or Worthy for Magic, or McHale for Bird, or shit, Kobe for Shaq.
viakado said:there's jizz on my hands folk.
Mothman91 said:Me too, we should hi-five each other.
BruceLeeRoy said:God damn I love Kobe. I got my dick in a sock for protection
Hahahaha!dream said:THE TRUE SUSPECT FACE OF LAKERS-AGE
Ninja Scooter said:goddamn Kobe is putting these fuckers on his back. Pau's performance is just pitiful. This is the worst I've seen him play in a 5 game stretch.
Hahaha, Kobe's got game tonight. Real talk.dream said:THE TRUE SUSPECT FACE OF LAKERS-AGE
Ninja Scooter said:goddamn Kobe is putting these fuckers on his back. Pau's performance is just pitiful. This is the worst I've seen him play in a 5 game stretch.
Doomsayer said:That obviously is going to put him a slot lower on the all-time SG list for zychi. He shouldn't be carrying his team.
Ninja Scooter said:So Kobe is better because everyone AROUND him (Nash, Lebron, Shaq, Spurs, the other 60 win teams) did great things, but he didn't, so by proxy that makes him great? Makes sense. Also the West was actually secretly kinda weak during Kobe's career(Mavs fail, Suns fail, weak Jazz, old Spurs) which is why the Lakers made the Finals like 6 times in that span. And Kobe himself didn't make it to the Finals without Shaq until Duncan got old and hurt and the teams started getting even weaker.
you fucking apologize right now!Ninja Scooter said:Pau's performance is just pitiful. This is the worst I've seen him play in a 5 game stretch.
zychi said:Your exact argument against Clyde can be made for Kobe.
zychi said:Your exact argument against Clyde can be made for Kobe.
zychi said:Your exact argument against Clyde can be made for Kobe.
J2 Cool said:We're watching a game 7 here basically. The door is shut for New Orleans when they lose this. LA is finally getting into playoff form.
J2 Cool said:We're watching a game 7 here basically. The door is shut for New Orleans when they lose this. LA is finally getting into playoff form.
Far from it.J2 Cool said:We're watching a game 7 here basically. The door is shut for New Orleans when they lose this. LA is finally getting into playoff form.
Ruh roh.Cloudy said:Ok I gotta admit Fish is playing good tonight. Let's hang on!
numble said:So do you guys think if Pau gets fat like his brother, he'll be better in the post?
Hell.Cloudy said:Ok I gotta admit Fish is playing good tonight. Let's hang on!