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[Black Mamba]

Laker fans think LA is some special place all athletes want to play. They don't, and never have. Lakers do not have a history of picking up massive, young, in their prime FA's all the time. It happens like once a decade if that.

The 2000's really have gone to Laker fans heads. I think it's all going to come crashing down to reality for them soon enough.

If I was Dwight, I would rather go play with the Clippers, or various other teams in the NBA.

Not to mention, the Lakers would have to trade some big pieces to get Dwight, and under the new CBA, maybe even more. The Lakers do NOT have a long-term future, something I assume Dwight is looking for.

LOL! You are hilariously awesome.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

What do those mean to Howard. He has no connection with the city itself or the team. I don't understand why you think he wants to play there.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

CP3 has a better chance at going to the Lakers than Dwight

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

wat

Yeah, I don't see(hear) it at all.

Unless he didn't mean literally.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Yay. :|

Now, Portland, do your job and win tonight.

Grizz do your jobs and win tomorrow.

 

[The M.O.B]

Heat in 6
Bulls in 6

 

[Forceatowulf]

Come on Dallas! I want no fucking part of Portland...

 

[Blackface]

Um because all we need is once every decade. We got Kareem in his prime and he and Magic took us until 1990 or so. We got Shaq in his prime and partnered with Kobe that lasted until 2004. We got Pau in his prime through FA and with Kobe that has lasted until now. So... yea...

You didn't get Pau via FA, and you already had a prime Kobe.

You aren't getting Dwight. I will bet a permanent Avatar on it. You down?

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

You didn't get Pau via FA, and you already had a prime Kobe.

You aren't getting Dwight. I will bet a permanent Avatar on it. You down?

I meant through trade reau. The point still stands, we don't need a blockbuster FA every year. And yea, a Raptor fan talking about the Lakers lacking a long term future? Do the Raptors even have A future? Contraction is coming sooner than later.

 

[Black Mamba]

KevinDing KEVIN DING
Lakers' next round: home Monday and Wednesday, Games 3 and 4 on road Friday and Sunday. Then May 10, 12 and 15, if nec

Wow, the series has no 2 days off unless it goes 7.

 

[brianjones]

You didn't get Pau via FA, and you already had a prime Kobe.

You aren't getting Dwight. I will bet a permanent Avatar on it. You down?

why are you so concerned about it?

 

[SamuraiX-]

You didn't get Pau via FA, and you already had a prime Kobe.

You aren't getting Dwight. I will bet a permanent Avatar on it. You down?

LovingSteam.

A Knicks fan for 2 years.

A Raptors fan for a decade.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

You aren't getting Dwight. I will bet a permanent Avatar on it. You down?

I would say there's a slim chance, but that's the case with every trade. It's rare for a trade to be completely telegraphed (see Melo to NY) and follow through. But if Dwight somehow ends up on the block, the Lakers will be in the mix, you can bet on that. That's good enough for me.

 

[linsivvi]

Laker fans think LA is some special place all athletes want to play. They don't, and never have. Lakers do not have a history of picking up massive, young, in their prime FA's all the time. It happens like once a decade if that.

Of course it's not. Toronto is where everyone wants to play, with the best clubs and all that.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Heat in 6
Bulls in 6

Celtics in 4
Bulls in 5

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

If Mavericks go on, I wonder who Brandi will root for?

 

[aznpxdd]

WTF is that thing on Marion's arm?

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Of course it's not. Toronto is where everyone wants to play, with the best clubs and all that.

hahaha.

 

[Blackface]

I meant through trade reau. The point still stands, we don't need a blockbuster FA every year. And yea, a Raptor fan talking about the Lakers lacking a long term future? Do the Raptors even have A future? Contraction is coming sooner than later.

We aren't talking about the Raptors, stop changing the subject. The Raptors are shit, I get it, good one. You are so creative.

The fact is, Players in their prime don't flock to LA, and never have. This is regardless of sport.

You will not get Dwight Howard. He and his agent both know you will have to trade away valuable pieces for that to happen. He will be constantly compared to Shaq, and when Kobe is old and worthless (sooner then later), it will be all on Dwight to lead an entire team, just like with the Magic. Phill Jackson won't be there to bail him out, and the new CBA is going to make it so you can't make lop-sided trades and pay them truck loads of money due to Bird Rights. The Lakers also have no good, young talent.

It isn't happening. I already made my bet on it.

 

[Barrage]

So, in terms of Cap Room (as in, if Dwight signed with a team in Free Agency in 2012 instead of being traded), what team would give him the best chance at a championship?

1)Clippers
2)Celtics
3)Spurs

 

[charsace]

Lebron did the same thing. And never said anything positive about NY. He even told nike that he was signing with the knicks when he knew he had no intention of signing here.

Meanwhile Carmelo was talking about how he liked what the knicks was doing during the 09-10 and last summer he was tweeting about how he was coming home to play and then deleted those posts and said he was hacked.

Why do you think he won't play for the Hawks? He was born and raised there. They have the pieces to get him too. He would bring life to that franchise.

And we all know that the Lakers success over the last 15 years is due to the Logo.

 

[THRILLH0]

So now that Paul, Deron and Nash are all fishing (yet again) while Rose, Parker and Westbrook are still playing, can we cut the "gotta have a PG who plays the right way" crap?

It doesn't count if you only get assists because you're surrounded by 3 HoF's while being the worst jump-shooter in the league.

 

[CherryWoodFuton]

Heat in 7 fuck the sweep predictions

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

We aren't talking about the Raptors, stop changing the subject. The Raptors are shit, I get it, good one. You are so creative.

The fact is, Players in their prime don't flock to LA, and never have. This is regardless of sport.

You will not get Dwight Howard. He and his agent both know you will have to trade away valuable pieces for that to happen. He will be constantly compared to Shaq, and when Kobe is old and worthless (sooner then later), it will be all on Dwight to lead an entire team, just like with the Magic. Phill Jackson won't be there to bail him out, and the new CBA is going to make it so you can't make lop-sided trades and pay them truck loads of money due to Bird Rights.

It isn't happening. I already made my bet on it.

Players in their prime don't flock to LA? Kareem did. Shaq did. That right there is good for almost 20 years. We had Magic with Kareem and Kobe with Shaq. The Lakers didn't need any other prime FA's. That is what you don't realize. WE didn't need any other big time FA's in their prime. We had the 2-3 superstars and surrounded them with role players.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

He knows something.

Spoiler

stupid ass mo williams

If

- Clippers re-sign Jordan
- they decide to trade for Dwight

Mo will probably be included to match salary, as Orlando will attempt to dump Arenas' and/or Turk's contracts on anyone they trade Dwight to.

Something like

Jordan
Gordon
Mo
Kaman (big expiring)
picks

for

Dwight
Hedo/Arenas
Duhon

 

[Ninja Scooter]

We aren't talking about the Raptors, stop changing the subject. The Raptors are shit, I get it, good one. You are so creative.

The fact is, Players in their prime don't flock to LA, and never have. This is regardless of sport.

You will not get Dwight Howard. He and his agent both know you will have to trade away valuable pieces for that to happen. He will be constantly compared to Shaq, and when Kobe is old and worthless (sooner then later), it will be all on Dwight to lead an entire team, just like with the Magic. Phill Jackson won't be there to bail him out, and the new CBA is going to make it so you can't make lop-sided trades and pay them truck loads of money due to Bird Rights.

It isn't happening. I already made my bet on it.

Don't need lopsided trades. Lakers are set up for Kobe, Pau and Blake's salaries come off the books the same year, Odom the year before. That's like $65 million in salaries and Howard will be what? 28 by then? Still in the prime of his career.

 

[dream]

4th best team in Texas.

I can see why Brandy jumped ship.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

So now that Paul, Deron and Nash are all fishing (yet again) while Rose, Parker and Westbrook are still playing, can we cut the "gotta have a PG who plays the right way" crap?

Not on NBA Labels-Gafstats.

Never!!!!!!

Thos guys use fancy lures and Rose and Westbrook use bobbers, it doesn't matter if they catch more fish!!!!

 

[SamuraiX-]

I honestly don't think Dwight is leaving.

He just doesn't have the personality to leave. Orlando would have to trade him and that's not happening.

Otis will make it even more difficult when he works on Dwight's gullible nature and promise him they'll get him help in the same way Cuban promised Dirk.

 

[Darkman M]

Why the fuck are you guys so worried about the Lakers? Worry about your own gm's and owners getting their shit right.

 

[thekad]

So now that Paul, Deron and Nash are all fishing (yet again) while Rose, Parker and Westbrook are still playing, can we cut the "gotta have a PG who plays the right way" crap?

Let's ask Nash, CP3, and Deron if they'd like to play with Deng/Boozer/Noah, Ginobli/Duncan, and Durant.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Lebron did the same thing. And never said anything positive about NY. He even told nike that he was signing with the knicks when he knew he had no intention of signing here.

Meanwhile Carmelo was talking about how he liked what the knicks was doing during the 09-10 and last summer he was tweeting about how he was coming home to play and then deleted those posts and said he was hacked.

Why do you think he won't play for the Hawks? He was born and raised there. They have the pieces to get him too. He would bring life to that franchise.

And we all know that the Lakers success over the last 15 years is due to the Logo.

because the Hawks are a middling franchise team that nobody cares about? You compare him to Lebron, and then throw out the "hometown" card with Atlanta? That worked out great for Cleveland. Its a players league. Players will dictate where they go, and I believe that Dwight is the type of guy that will want to go to a big, flashy market, and if that's the case the Lakers have as good a shot as any.

I can't believe you guys just saw what happened with Carmelo, with teams like Houston, NJ and Dallas putting together packages for him and having no chance, and try and throw out shit like "Dwight to Memphis!". Have you learned nothing?

 

[linsivvi]

It isn't happening. I already made my bet on it.

It's easy to make a bet when there are 28 other possible locations a player can go to.

I could make a bet that Lebron wasn't going to Toronto last year, or CP3 isn't going to Utah when his contract is up. Also you are not going to win the lottery within your lifetime.

Convenient, isn't it?

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Heat in 7 fuck the sweep predictions

You better hope it doesn't go 7.

Heat don't do well in pressure situations.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Dirk beastin

 

[Black Mamba]

Players in their prime don't flock to LA? Kareem did. Shaq did. That right there is good for almost 20 years. We had Magic with Kareem and Kobe with Shaq. The Lakers didn't need any other prime FA's. That is what you don't realize. WE didn't need any other big time FA's in their prime. We had the 2-3 superstars and surrounded them with role players.

Don't forget Magic and Kobe pretty much wanted to be guaranteed to be a Laker before coming.

look, big time FAs rarely leave their teams to begin with. Big deal. Players will always find their way to a team like the Lakers because it's LA and its history of success.

 

[giga]

So now that Paul, Deron and Nash are all fishing (yet again) while Rose, Parker and Westbrook are still playing, can we cut the "gotta have a PG who plays the right way" crap?

It doesn't count if you only get assists because you're surrounded by 3 HoF's while being the worst jump-shooter in the league.

You are honestly comparing the Hornats, Jazz, and Suns to the Bulls, Spurs, and Thunder?

 

[seattle6418]

I've heard Orlando is a dump.

One of the great things i did while i was living in the United States was to travel a lot. I went into every possible inch of Florida, and boy, there are a lot of great cities in there but Miami isn´t one.

What´s so great about Miami? Of course, the nightlife, but since you are a millionaire sports athlete, you´re fine living close to it, because you can enjoy the nightlife and live in a better city.

I really don´t get the hate towards Orlando, specially comparing to some very uninteresting NBA cities.

Shaq left Orlando to play for the Lakers but still loves the city, lives there and can be easilly spoted there during offseason. He left for a bunch of different reasons. This idea that Orlando can´t sustain a superstar is crazy. Problem is, Otis put them on a hole. There´s always buy outs and trades, remember, the Magic Gm is not the only one in the NBA that is a lunatic.

But hey, if the general feeling is that the place is a dump, then lol, i guess it´s news for me.

Disclaimer: I´m not a Magic fan, i just like them a little bit.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

You better hope it doesn't go 7.

LeBron doesn't do well in pressure situations.

Fixed

Don't forget Magic and Kobe pretty much wanted to be guaranteed to be a Laker before coming.

look, big time FAs rarely leave their teams to begin with. Big deal. Players will always find their way to a team like the Lakers because it's LA and its history of success.

Exactly.

 

[SamuraiX-]

So now that Paul, Deron and Nash are all fishing (yet again) while Rose, Parker and Westbrook are still playing, can we cut the "gotta have a PG who plays the right way" crap?

It doesn't count if you only get assists because you're surrounded by 3 HoF's while being the worst jump-shooter in the league.

Why are you grouping Parker in the same category with two shooting guards?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Let's ask Nash, CP3, and Deron if they'd like to play with Deng/Boozer/Noah, Ginobli/Duncan, and Durant.

Oh, ahahahahahaha, NOW Boozer is valuable!!!!!!

Carry on, just like clockwork of convenience.

 

[MPW]

Of course it's not. Toronto is where everyone wants to play, with the best clubs and all that.

they do!

we are talking about toronto maple leafs and hockey, amrite?

 

[Blackface]

Don't need lopsided trades. Lakers are set up for Kobe, Pau and Blake's salaries come off the books the same year, Odom the year before. That's like $65 million in salaries and Howard will be what? 28 by then? Still in the prime of his career.

The CBA getting changed, all the rules of contracts, cap etc.. The current model you are basing your thought on is unsustainable, making the NBA bankrupt and will not be in place by this time next year.

Just because a team has money, does not mean they are going to land tons of FA's. A big part of the reason why LA could get anyone is because they had Phil Jackson and Kobe. Both of them will be gone.

 

[charsace]

Players in their prime don't flock to LA? Kareem did. Shaq did. That right there is good for almost 20 years. We had Magic with Kareem and Kobe with Shaq. The Lakers didn't need any other prime FA's. That is what you don't realize. WE didn't need any other big time FA's in their prime. We had the 2-3 superstars and surrounded them with role players.

LA is a great city, but that team is going to look ugly in a few years because they will have to go into a rebuild. There first rebuild in a long time without West being involved. And phil is leaving on top of all that is going to happen.

The bottom line is that the Lakers will be rebuilding and I don't see a player like Howard who is in his prime going to a rebuilding team. I don't like the Laker's current front office at all. They are really going to have to earn their money soon though.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

One of the great things i did while i was living in the United States was to travel a lot. I went into every possible inch of Florida, and boy, there are a lot of great cities in there but Miami isn´t one.

What´s so great about Miami? Of course, the nightlife, but since you are a millionaire sports athlete, you´re fine living close to it, because you can enjoy the nightlife and live in a better city.

I really don´t get the hate towards Orlando, specially comparing to some very uninteresting NBA cities.

Shaq left Orlando to play for the Lakers but still loves the city, lives there and can be easilly spoted there during offseason. He left for a bunch of different reasons. This idea that Orlando can´t sustain a superstar is crazy. Problem is, Otis put them on a hole. There´s always buy outs and trades, remember, the Magic Gm is not the only one in the NBA that is a lunatic.

But hey, if the general feeling is that the place is a dump, then lol, i guess it´s news for me.

Disclaimer: I´m not a Magic fan, i just like them a little bit.

Howard leaving Orlando would have more to do with the front office and coaches being idiots, and the roster being a cap strapped bunch of garbage than the city itself. If Dwight stays he is pretty much stuck with this team for the next few years. It's similar to Cleveland. they did a terrible job building around Lebron and paid for it.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

they do!

we are talking about toronto maple leafs and hockey, amrite?

Yup, everybody wants to play for the Leafs. That's why they haven't made the playoffs in 7 years.

 

[Duki]

lmao wait the lakers only just got out of the first round

wow thats pathetic

even the knicks did it ages ago

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

post

Someone told me it wasn't a very clean place or something, only time I have been there was for Epcot Center and it was somewhat boring because it was more educational than fun-with-rides!!!!!!

I remember some purple dragon and some pigment or shit or something.

I don't have anything personal against Orlando.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

The CBA getting changed, all the rules of contracts, cap etc.. The current model you are basing your thought on is unsustainable, making the NBA bankrupt and will not be in place by this time next year.

Just because a team has money, does not mean they are going to land tons of FA's. A big part of the reason why LA could get anyone is because they had Phil Jackson and Kobe. Both of them will be gone.

the CBA will change but contracts aren't going to be torn up and voided. those contracts will still be expiring at the same time. Maybe they will be a smaller hard cap in place, but I have a hard time believing it still wouldn't be enough space to sign a superstar free agent. We have ZERO money guaranteed beyond then.

 

[Zep]

LA is a great city

Can tell you never been to LA. Its a shithole.