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thekad said:
Bulls probably have more money to play with, but yeah they are going to have to make some hard decisions if they don't want to go far over the cap once it's time for Rose's extension. Deng might be the first to go.
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Bulls probably have more money to play with, but yeah they are going to have to make some hard decisions if they don't want to go far over the cap once it's time for Rose's extension. Deng might be the first to go.
without westbrook the thunder dont ever even take the lead in regulation thoughGeorge Claw M.D. said:
not like kd was shooting lights out at all
he ended on 9 of 20 despite the couple of easy baskets right at the end of 3rd ot padding his shit
kd is literally not good in the clutch and bestbrook carried the team for most of the game so he gets the shot
fuck the durant fellatio
although i guess kd is better at being bailed out as fuck by the refs so theres something
Basileus777
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thekad said:
Deng's contract is terrible and Boozer's deal is going to be a real issue down the line. The Bulls are going to have to deal with salary issues once Rose and Noah's extensions kick in and and there's a new cba.
oh it solves nothing long term but it means he'll still be there at least for one more season probablyNinja Scooter said:
so no real point talking like hes going to be an actual free agent quite yet
and its reasonable for them to pay them for one more season if it means theyre more likely to get dat sweet sweet playoff revenue which they wouldnt sniff without gasol
StickSoldier
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Man, I just don't see a clear cut favorite to come out of the West right now. While Mavs just swept the Lakers and they played great, it's obvious the Lakers had some internal problems that were fucking with them. I think the WCF should be awesome.
Westbrook is starting to become as unlikable as Lebron.
Also it sucks watching KG now. Growing up seeing him dominate, now he's just fighting to get up and down the court. Yeah he blew up last game, but you could tell tonight he was gassed.
Barkley just said it best, pro basketball is truly a young persons' game.
Also it sucks watching KG now. Growing up seeing him dominate, now he's just fighting to get up and down the court. Yeah he blew up last game, but you could tell tonight he was gassed.
Barkley just said it best, pro basketball is truly a young persons' game.
The Stealth Fox
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I really think that if OKC comes out of the series the Mavs will take them to school. Hard.
I think they'll deal with Memphis too but it will be a longer, tougher series.
I think they'll deal with Memphis too but it will be a longer, tougher series.
George Claw M.D.
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You and Reilo are misunderstanding my post. I never suggested who should've done what. I posed a hypothetical question in response to Reilo, but my original post was just an observation that Durant seemed pissed at Westbrook dominating the ball during OT. I never suggested Durant SHOULD have dominated OT. But he was obviously mad about Westbrook doing so. That's all. No Durant fellating, here, so stand down. If you or anyone want to refute my observation regarding Durant's end game sentiments, though, by all means...Duki said:
Ninja Scooter
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lol trolling Kenny
it read like you were obv implying a suggestion as to who should have done whatGeorge Claw M.D. said:
and yeah durant obv was mad
doesnt mean he was right to be mad about this particular game
westbrook often chucks without reason, but he also often shoots a lot with good reason
today he carried the team for a long stretch
durant has residual mad from the previous games where westbrook definitely shouldnt have been such a moron
reilo said:
Pretty sure that ship has sailed. Everyone knows that the FThunder are in a position of weakness if they're going to deal him, unless they put Ibaka or someone in the deal too. Their best bet is to find someone else who is desperate to make a deal (Lakers/Magic)
Maybe he'll be good with the right coach but this isn't like Monta Ellis jacking up 25 a game where there's no one else to pass to. Someone needs to reel this jackass in and put him in his place. Make him a facilitator or move him to the two and run the offense through someone less selfish and ego driven. What's Jerry Sloan doing?
If that doesn't work ship his dumbass to a bad team where he can hog the ball and not ruin winning teams.
Ugh, no, that would be stupid. And that comments a little (very) short sighted.Barrage said:
The grizz lack 3pt shooters, they NEED floor spacing. Rudy gay was shooting at .396 before the injury. They need him back for spacing. He also has the size that tony allen doesn't to match up with durant.
The Chosen One
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You guys are high if you think OKC is going to trade Westbrook.
Yes, he fluctuates between Bestbrook and Worstbook in a four minute span, but he's still young and can put the opposing team on their heels. The problem is he's basically a SG masquerading as a PG. He would get FAR less shit if he wasn't the PG.
OKC should just bring in a decent traditional PG and move Chuckbrook to shooting guard. Even if the PG was a bum, this would restrain the volume of his shots since he wouldn't be bringing the ball up the court everytime.
If you have a shoot first PG *cough*DerrickRose*cough*, then he's not really a PG.
- Rondo is a PG
- Chris Paul is a PG
- Steve Nash is a PG
- Chauncy Billups is a PG
- Deron Williams was a PG.
Westbrook isn't a PG and Rose hasn't been a PG ever since he entered the MVP discussion. But not sure why Rose has consistently gotten a pass for inefficient chucking while Westbrook has been maligned for it.
Yes, he fluctuates between Bestbrook and Worstbook in a four minute span, but he's still young and can put the opposing team on their heels. The problem is he's basically a SG masquerading as a PG. He would get FAR less shit if he wasn't the PG.
OKC should just bring in a decent traditional PG and move Chuckbrook to shooting guard. Even if the PG was a bum, this would restrain the volume of his shots since he wouldn't be bringing the ball up the court everytime.
If you have a shoot first PG *cough*DerrickRose*cough*, then he's not really a PG.
- Rondo is a PG
- Chris Paul is a PG
- Steve Nash is a PG
- Chauncy Billups is a PG
- Deron Williams was a PG.
Westbrook isn't a PG and Rose hasn't been a PG ever since he entered the MVP discussion. But not sure why Rose has consistently gotten a pass for inefficient chucking while Westbrook has been maligned for it.
Basileus777
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The Chosen One said:
Rose hasn't gotten a pass for anything here. He's been mocked regularly for his inefficient scoring.
Was?
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The Chosen One said:
Because Westbrook has the NBA's leading scorer on the team. Also the Rose's chucking usually wins them games, usually heh.
What a fantastic night of basketball. The Thunder series should go to 7.
I thought Westbrook played great, he deserved shit for the other games. But tonight he was significant in the win. Side note: Not sure if you guys destroyed him for the 30 shots tonight, haven't read through the thread.
I thought Westbrook played great, he deserved shit for the other games. But tonight he was significant in the win. Side note: Not sure if you guys destroyed him for the 30 shots tonight, haven't read through the thread.
So basically, the idea of a scoring point guard doesn't exist?
Even at SG, the position is called shooting guard not scoring guard. They don't fit naturally into that position either, and they require the ball and the chance to drive. Ideally for both of them, they're Isiah Thomas types. Not the height of his stats, when he was 21ppg/14ast, but his 20/8.5 on 45% stats when he was winning titles. I don't see why that's not manageable.
Even at SG, the position is called shooting guard not scoring guard. They don't fit naturally into that position either, and they require the ball and the chance to drive. Ideally for both of them, they're Isiah Thomas types. Not the height of his stats, when he was 21ppg/14ast, but his 20/8.5 on 45% stats when he was winning titles. I don't see why that's not manageable.
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Black Mamba
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I would not trade Gay, either. They can let Mayo go. Sam Young and Allen can cover the 2 guard as can battier who can also back up Gay. But I think Battier is a UFA this off-season, no?
Gay will take his shots from Mayo's departure, and hopefully all the really bad ones Allen would put up (aka 10+ feet out).
Gay would also be a good player to play more minutes along the bench unit which will need scoring punch.
For instance, Conley, Allen, Gay, Zbo, Gasol for the 1st 6 minutes. Then you pull Gay out for Battier for 3 minutes. Then sun out one of the bigs for Arthur and then Allen out and put Gay back in.
bench unit of: Vazquez, Battier, gay, Arthur, Gasol (or Zbo/Hadidi).
And FTR, Gay was +3 on the season in on/off differential per 100 possessions. The team has been +1.5 without him, including post-injury.
edit: Although, I'd try really hard to package Mayo and Conley for CP3. Or Deron. I doubt either has a chance, but it's worth a shot.
Mayo has to go, though. If they can get some other depth or draft picks for him would be great.
Gay will take his shots from Mayo's departure, and hopefully all the really bad ones Allen would put up (aka 10+ feet out).
Gay would also be a good player to play more minutes along the bench unit which will need scoring punch.
For instance, Conley, Allen, Gay, Zbo, Gasol for the 1st 6 minutes. Then you pull Gay out for Battier for 3 minutes. Then sun out one of the bigs for Arthur and then Allen out and put Gay back in.
bench unit of: Vazquez, Battier, gay, Arthur, Gasol (or Zbo/Hadidi).
And FTR, Gay was +3 on the season in on/off differential per 100 possessions. The team has been +1.5 without him, including post-injury.
edit: Although, I'd try really hard to package Mayo and Conley for CP3. Or Deron. I doubt either has a chance, but it's worth a shot.
Mayo has to go, though. If they can get some other depth or draft picks for him would be great.
Basileus777
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You can call them whatever label you want, but I think the point is that high volume, low efficiency scoring point guards aren't necessarily what you want on a contending team. You don't have to be a great passer, but you at least need to be something in the Parker or Billups mold where you at least know how to play in a team offense without dominating the ball.
Duki said:
The fuck? Durant converted a 35 point night with only 20 shots, 16 of those points from the line.
Westbrook chucked 33 and made less than half of them and got 10 of his 40 points from the FT line.
Guess what his assist total was for 51 minutes of play? 5...
Westbrook took nearly every crunch time final shot. From the end of the half, the end of the 4th, the end of the first OT, the end of the 2OT....
At what point did he give the ball up to Durant at any key moment?
Why was Durant completely infuriated with Westbrook in todays game?
Cause I really have no fucking idea what you're talking about bro.....
Oh and westbrook has nothing to do with Durant being the leading scorer, his assist total per fucking game couldn't possibly be enough to warrant that. He only has a 7 fucking assist career total.
Durant is the nba leading scorer because he can fucking finish and gets to the line often as fuck and makes his FT.
Don't you dare start crediting Westbrook for Durants success.
SMH...
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Basileus777 said:
Maybe those guys can share their fishing rods with their teammates for the ultimate in efficient catch.
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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iamvin22 said:
Has John Hollinger ever played a sport before???
Just curious.
Basileus777
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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
He's being sarcastic.
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Basileus777 said:
Oh, I am out of touch with him(actually, never followed him) so I can't read what he means, my bad.
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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
edit: since you already responded. Yes, it's sarcasm. For future reference, he often is (as am I, so watch out!)
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