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[exarkun]

Isn't that part of the problem, though? You'll have 5 guys on the floor who think that "no one can stop me11!!", which doesn't make for a very good team.

but...what if no one can stop them?

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[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Thabo is basically Keith Bogans.

Thabo wouldn't walk out of a dark alley unscathed though.

 

[h3ro]

In light of news about Amare's MRI, I decided to look at the Knicks' schedule.

Knicks upcoming 3 games: MIL, ORL, ATL

Knicks in April: @IND, @ORL, CHI, @CHI, @MIL, MIA, BOS, ATL, LAC

Bucks upcoming 3 games: @NYK, ATL, MEM

Bucks in April: OKC, NYK, IND, PHI, BOS

Good luck!

We shall overcome!

 

[darkside31337]

OKC has some underrated players. Thabo is an excellent defender that goes under the radar a lot of times. It's not just Durant and Westbrook, people!!

It's true. James Harden is the most underrated player in the NBA.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

It's true. James Harden is the most underrated player in the NBA.

Maybe last year but he gets his share of hype and attention nowadays.

 

[KingGondo]

Thabo is basically Keith Bogans.

Has Keith Bogans ever shot above 50% from 3?

 

[Branduil]

It's true. James Harden is the most underrated player in the NBA.

Not by the refs.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

I was looking up Bulls news and KC Johnson tweeted that look out for Fred Hoiberg as a candidate for the Blazers head coaching job.

Take that for what it is.

Hoiberg is awesome.

 

[Syphon Filter]

We shall overcome!

We always get back luck near the post season.

 

[Doomsayer]

So I didn't get to watch the Laker/Grizz game last night because I was watching the Hunger Games with my girl (ugh) but from what I'm reading is Kobe got benched?

Anyone want to fill me in?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

So I didn't get to watch the Laker/Grizz game last night because I was watching the Hunger Games with my girl (ugh) but from what I'm reading is Kobe got benched?

Anyone want to fill me in?

From what I saw, he punched or elbowed a bench seat out of frustration from the refs, the way things we were going, etc... and Mike Brown didn't feel he was in the right frame of mind to go back out there so he put someone else in instead.

Really a non-issue.

 

[jjasper]

OKC has some underrated players. Thabo is an excellent defender that goes under the radar a lot of times. It's not just Durant and Westbrook, people!!

Of course it isn't Durant and Westbrook. It is Durant and Harden.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Skip just takes the contrarian opinion about everything. He's like a permanent devil's advocate. Eventually he's going to be right about one thing or another but he's wrong about everything else.

Exactly. I doubt all of those are his actual opinions. Its just part of the character he plays.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

Has Keith Bogans ever shot above 50% from 3?

Small sample size.

 

[DY_nasty]

Damn amare been playing so well lately to

Called it.

3ish weeks after the allstar break.

 

[KingGondo]

Small sample size.

Still a massive improvement.

I no longer shout "NOOOOOOO!" at the TV when he shoots a 3, which is a big step in and of itself.

 

[Doomsayer]

From what I saw, he punched or elbowed a bench seat out of frustration from the refs, the way things we were going, etc... and Mike Brown didn't feel he was in the right frame of mind to go back out there so he put someone else in instead.

Really a non-issue.

Ah, right on.

I expected something much more than something like that. Fucking homer friends.

 

[Puddles]

Lebrons one of the best defenders in the league and is a better passer...

LeBron looks like one of the best defenders in the league when they shift him onto a 6'3'' guard, or when the refs let him mug and molest bigger forwards in the paint, but elite forwards can still score on him. He isn't in the Shane Battier/Tony Allen defensive wing class, and frankly it's ridiculous that he's in the discussion for DPOY.

In a 7 game series, the difference in defensive ability between LeBron and Durant will be a non-factor.

Better passer? Not appreciably better. He gets more assists because that's the way the Miami offense is set up. KD doesn't get a lot of assists because Harden and Westbrook are the primary ball-handlers.

KD is a better shooter from everywhere on the floor outside of the paint, and he's better at the line. He doesn't wilt in the clutch either.

Kevin Durant is the superior basketball player, full stop.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

The Thunder are 13th in defense and the Heat are 4th and the defensive supporting casts of KD and LeBron aren't much different. Durant has been on one good defensive team in his entire career, LeBron has been the main part of elite defensive teams over the last four years.

 

[jordan0386]

LeBron looks like one of the best defenders in the league when they shift him onto a 6'3'' guard, or when the refs let him mug and molest bigger forwards in the paint, but elite forwards can still score on him. He isn't in the Shane Battier/Tony Allen defensive wing class, and frankly it's ridiculous that he's in the discussion for DPOY.

In a 7 game series, the difference in defensive ability between LeBron and Durant will be a non-factor.

Better passer? Not appreciably better. He gets more assists because that's the way the Miami offense is set up. KD doesn't get a lot of assists because Harden and Westbrook are the primary ball-handlers.

KD is a better shooter from everywhere on the floor outside of the paint, and he's better at the line. He doesn't wilt in the clutch either.

Kevin Durant is the superior basketball player, full stop.

looked pretty bad versus the Rockets last week -__-

 

[Dominican Power]

It's true. James Harden is the most underrated player in the NBA.

He's unanimously considered to be The Sixth Man of the year. He's the third leading scorer on that team. When people talking about OKC, they always mention Durant, Westbrook, and Harden. Harden would be starting for any other team.

 

[reilo]

Durant doesn't wilt in the clutch? Lol

 

[Syphon Filter]

Durant doesn't wilt in the clutch? Lol

He can't be perfect all the time but he's clutch for the most part.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

He can't be perfect all the time but he's clutch for the most part.

What does clutch even mean then? Don't want to get into that debate again but Durant is pretty average for end of game shots

 

[KingGondo]

Durant doesn't wilt in the clutch? Lol

Kevin Durant leads the league with 126 points in the clutch this season, 17 more than the next closest player to him.

Last 10 seconds of a one possession game, Durant leads the league with 21 points, on 50 percent shooting.

FYI: The "clutch" is defined as the last 5 minutes of a game that is within 5 points either way.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Hasn't Durant only made one game winner in his 5 year career including playoffs?

 

[KingGondo]

Hasn't Durant only made one game winner in his 5 year career including playoffs?

I know he's had at least 2--last year against the Knicks, and this year against the Mavs. Both were at home.

He also hit a ridiculously clutch 3 on the road last year in Philly to force OT.

Can't remember beyond that.

 

[exarkun]

It's true. James Harden is the most underrated player in the NBA.

my ninja, that would be Courtney Lee. Dude is a baller with a great D. Too underrated. So rare.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Hasn't Durant only made one game winner in his 5 year career including playoffs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0tzivTk_k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3i1Av9Jl10

 

[Dominican Power]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hR-G6RpIdw

lulz

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Turiaf in Miami
LO in Dallas
Fish in OKC
Booz Brewer and Korver left their souls in Staples from their time with Utah
Parker, Ginobilli and Duncan are Kobe's sons.


The fix is in.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Turiaf in Miami
LO in Dallas
Fish in OKC
Booz Brewer and Korver left their souls in Staples from their time with Utah
Parker, Ginobilli and Duncan are Kobe's sons.


The fix is in.

NO, it can't be!

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

NO, it can't be!

Pau wears Booz's soul on a necklace.

 

[jordan0386]

After the last tv timeout should be when clutch officially starts. 2:59 and less.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Pau wears Booz's soul on a necklace.

But then, who wears Pau's soul?

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

But then, who wears Pau's soul?

Dirk. I'm hoping he gets it back this year in the playoffs.


edit: On second thought, his ex-girl may have it.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Dirk. I'm hoping he gets it back this year in the playoffs.

Well, here's a cool pic until then, courtesy of The BDF.

 

[jordan0386]

LeBron looks like one of the best defenders in the league when they shift him onto a 6'3'' guard, or when the refs let him mug and molest bigger forwards in the paint, but elite forwards can still score on him. He isn't in the Shane Battier/Tony Allen defensive wing class, and frankly it's ridiculous that he's in the discussion for DPOY.

In a 7 game series, the difference in defensive ability between LeBron and Durant will be a non-factor.

Better passer? Not appreciably better. He gets more assists because that's the way the Miami offense is set up. KD doesn't get a lot of assists because Harden and Westbrook are the primary ball-handlers.

KD is a better shooter from everywhere on the floor outside of the paint, and he's better at the line. He doesn't wilt in the clutch either.

Kevin Durant is the superior basketball player, full stop.

little something from RealGM.

How quickly people forget..

That was a defining game in Durant's career cause he 'stuffed the statsheet' which showed he played an all around game. LeBron has been having these 28/8/8 games on a regular basis (literally- thats around his career average if you take out his rookie season) his whole career and now Durant has ONE and he's a better player? Not to mention LeBron's also a fiend on the defensive end.

People forget that when LeBron was Durant's age (or even younger as LeBron is 22 in the following sample) he'd be having these amazing standout all around games where he stuffs the stat sheet too. Except LeBron would destroy what Durant did and go off for something like 32 15 13 (Nov 2007), 39 13 14 (a week after that), 37 12 12 (a week later), 31 19 8 (a month later), 26 13 11 (a month later). Then a month later, from February 19 2008 to Feb 24th, the Cavs played 4 games in that window of 6 nights. In those 4 consecutive games, LeBron had 26 13 11 (Feb 19), 31 14 12 (Feb 20), 33 15 8 (Feb 22), 25 7 11 (Feb 24). All the above games took place in a 3 month window.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

I will echo the sentiment that Durant is a better shooter...But that's about it.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I will echo the sentiment that Durant is a better shooter...But that's about it.

He's much better without the ball and at drawing defensive attention without the ball.

 

[SephCast]

Has Keith Bogans ever shot above 50% from 3?

Fluke. He's literally only taken 37 threes this year. Thabo's EFG% is worse than Bogans' last year.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

He's much better without the ball and at drawing defensive attention without the ball.

Word.

His off ball movement is something Bron has never learned for some reason. If LeBron could run through a screen or two, roll off his defender and towards the lane he could probably draw a double team away from the ball. AWAY FROM THE BALL DOUBLE TEAM.

 

[jordan0386]

I will echo the sentiment that Durant is a better shooter...But that's about it.

Only real way to know is by looking at a hot spot chart. Kevin's is definitely nicer looking. More productive? I dunno when they avg the same amount of points.

 

[jordan0386]

Word.

His off ball movement is something Bron has never learned for some reason. If LeBron could run through a screen or two, roll off his defender and towards the lane he could probably draw a double team away from the ball. AWAY FROM THE BALL DOUBLE TEAM.

Not true. LeBron isnt a curl shooter so it isnt magnified as much. But his movement is fine.

55 percent and 40 percent from 3 means he is moving within this offense, the best he has ever done.

 

[DY_nasty]

LBJ's off-ball movement is really poor. He's never had to learn it though.

Only real way to know is by looking at a hot spot chart. Kevin's is definitely nicer looking. More productive? I dunno when they avg the same amount of points.

LBJ has wisely abandoned the 3 for the most part. They're both efficient - but in different ways. They have almost completely opposite offensive playstyles so you can't simply line their numbers up next to the other and say who's better and better at what. Durant does certain things that effect the game outside of the stat sheet (such as what IWMTB was talking about) and LBJ does his whole fuckyoui'mtheking drive to lane whenever he wants (which creates direct opportunities).

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Not true. LeBron isnt a curl shooter so it isnt magnified as much. But his movement is fine.

55 percent and 40 percent from 3 means he is moving within this offense, the best he has ever done.

His offball movement is mediocre at best. Even if he isn't a curl shooter, off ball movement can lead to drive and dishes, slashes and many other things for the ball handler and teammates. The last thing LeBron should be is a spot up shooter. He should run off of screens barrel towards the basket and use his passing ability to hit Wade and Bosh.

If Bron would routinely curl, lose his defender off of screens and slash it would result in lots of opportunities for him and his teammates. You can blame his coaches for that, but its still something that he could take advantage of but doesn't.

 

[Adam Blade]

For a team with CP3 and two athletic bigs, it sure is surprising that Faux City plays at the 2nd slowest pace in the league.

Spoiler

FIRE VDN FIRE VDN FIRE VDN

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

For a team with CP3 and two athletic bigs, it sure is surprising that Faux City plays at the 2nd slowest pace in the league.

Spoiler

FIRE VDN FIRE VDN FIRE VDN

To be fair, none of their perimeter players have knees and might implode on the court if they became a running team.

 

[marathonfool]

Was gone over the weekend. Good to see the thread back. No word on what happened?

 

[jordan0386]

For a team with CP3 and two athletic bigs, it sure is surprising that Faux City plays at the 2nd slowest pace in the league.

Spoiler

FIRE VDN FIRE VDN FIRE VDN

Clippers are right where they need to be with the talent they have.

Their best player is 6'0 and their second best is in his 2nd season.

Chris has no shooters for himself to be pushing pace. Unless, Blake magically learned to hit free throws.