where do i say everyone sucks anyway?
they're a slow starting team =/= they all suck
boston didn't even break .500 until nearly 2 months into the season
20 years? how many great point guards have even had championship level talent around them in the last 20 years? this arguing in a vacuum nonsense is why you've never been taken seriously before. from defending asterisks to saying "well, his historically poor shooting as a point guard on a winning team is improving to simply shitty!", its ridiculous.
***Also, you don't even know what you're arguing. Assists =/= offense. Boston, throughout the past two years, has been the example of assists do not equal offense as they've led the league in assists but have been bottoming out in points per game and offensive efficiency. Continuing this argument before you understand that is completely pointless and only serves to show how far off you are.
Arguing in a vacuum? Thats where you live at pal. Teams with PGs as the best player
never win. You can make whatever excuse you need to suite your argument but outside of Magic and Isaiah we can go down the top ten PGOAT list and see how few won a ring as the best player on the team.
I've said what is it three times that Rondo's knock is his jumper, IDK what the hell else you want. Oh and you still have never brought a good reason about the whole asterisk thing, oh wait I know "its always been that way man".
And yes assists are a part of offense. Like a huge part. You have the nerve to criticize Rondo for his "lack of a basic understanding of the game" but you can't discern one of the most fundamental parts of offense. Their pace will never allow them to score at the top of the league, and frankly they are far more interested in playing D.
Gud jab...
The reason Boston is terrible offensively is because they don't offensive rebound, but even if they did go after O rebounds, they'd still be pretty below average which shouldn't happen for teams with "elite" PGs. Boston is average in shooting percentage and free throw attempts and one of the worst in the NBA at turning the ball over (which has a lot to do with the fact that there's so much congestion due to Rondo hurting floor spacing). The only major argument Rondo has over guys like Kyle Lowry or Ty Lawson or Ricky Rubio is that he's won more, but how the Celtics win has almost nothing to do with Rondo. The Celtics win with defense and their defense has been better with Rondo injured than with him healthy.
He played better last year because he played like he wasn't terrified of open jumpers and the free throw line, but he's still probably the 27th or 28th best scorer out of all the starting PGs in the NBA (Rubio and Felton being the only guys who are clearly worse at scoring). He plays a ton of minutes, scores very few points, and scores those points on extremely bad efficiency. Rondo is like the only player in the NBA who gets a pass for being bad at scoring (Chandler scores as many points on much much much better efficiency and is killed for his scoring output) and it's just kind of strange. He is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the NBA, but the ability to actually make shots is incredibly important. I think CP3, YNB, and Nash are just better players by a good bit and Rondo shouldn't be considered in that "elite" tier.
They aren't average in FG%, they are top 5. They don't shoot alot of FTs because there offense doesn't really get them to the rim. Most of the time its jumpshots for the big three in their various spots. Their defense gets better because Bradley is probably the best man defender at the position.
Scoring at the PG is an almost meaningless measure. Its nothing to scoff at but it is hardly some end-all. I mean Nash scored less than a point more than Rondo last season,
while Rondo is the best assist man in the league(more or less). Rondo gets a "pass" because he's so damn good at his job.
You may value scoring as some end-all but don't be surprised that others don't. The vast-majority of fans consider Rondo an elite PG, the vast majority of coaches do, the vast majority of players do. I honestly don't even know what else to rebut when you consider WB an elite PG.
