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[ThisWreckage]

May was a 13th pick. It's not like they took him 5/6th.

Yeah, but look at who they passed on. And a lot of people were foaming at the mouth over Morrison, but I wasn't one of them. I said from the start that Redick would be the better player because of his coaching, work ethic, and range.

 

[thekad]

Obviously if you suck, you go with the player most likely to become a star. Taking role players is pointless.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

damn carmelo with 21 FGA in three quarters

 

[Dominican Power]

damn carmelo with 21 FGA in three quarters

That's what happens when you don't have someone like D Wade on your squad.

 

[The Frankman]

NBA ACTION

It's fantastic.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

That's what happens when you don't have someone like D Wade on your squad.

I feel for you son

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Jazz already getting the pipe

 

[The Insane Dufresne]

Possibly first overall!

Lol...You're kidding right?

 

[diehard]

think we can trade the Jazz starters for Florida GC players?

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

wow Jazz look bad damn.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Lol...You're kidding right?

He's 4th on ESPN's big board and Smart's meltdown yesterday could have caused him to drop and Noel's knees might not clear

If McLemore and Oladipo suck even more than him in the tournament, he's got a chance!

 

[DY_nasty]

Yeah, but look at who they passed on. And a lot of people were foaming at the mouth over Morrison, but I wasn't one of them. I said from the start that Redick would be the better player because of his coaching, work ethic, and range.

Reddick just came off a DUI, back injuries, and getting exposed by LSU. That's exactly why he dropped - also, he was undersized. He didn't even contribute in the league until Orlando decided to not bury him behind Keith "mafuckin" Bogans. Morrison and May both got essentially crippled by injuries and a FO that was not committed to developing talent in any shape, fashion, or form. Okafor, Felton, DJ, etc all completely stagnated or regressed because the environment under Bob Johnson was nothing that anyone could succeed in.

Hindsight is dope though.

 

[Knux-Future]

Yeah, but look at who they passed on. And a lot of people were foaming at the mouth over Morrison, but I wasn't one of them. I said from the start that Redick would be the better player because of his coaching, work ethic, and range.

They passed on Danny Granger...a guy who no one knew about nor that he would be this good, David Lee (same as Granger) a guy who 29 teams passed on, Monta and Lou Williams two undersized gunner who people thought should have went to college.


and that's it.


May was a monster in college and he like Morrison got hurt (although he then proceeded to eat himself out of the league).

It's easy to look back on draft and say "they should have done thiiiiis".

Only Thabeet and Marvin Williams are guys of recent years that were bad picks then and now that I can think of.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Yo

Ohio State with 71 points with 11:41 left in the game

i dont even't

 

[diehard]

Favors comes in and defense goes from the worst thing in mankind's existence to actually pretty decent.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

Only Thabeet and Marvin Williams are guys of recent years that were bad picks then and now that I can think of.

Wes. Always Wes.

 

[ThisWreckage]

Players that the Bobcats have passed on in NBA Drafts: Bynum, Granger, David Lee, Ilyasova, Ellis, Gortat. That is one draft class.

In the next draft they passed on Roy and Gay in favor of Morrison. Hell, Redick would have been a better pick. Or even Sefolosha. You know the Bobcats had the number 50 pick that year and passed on Rondo and Millsap?

Next year they took Brandon Wright over Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, and Splitter.

Next year they took Augustin (who isn't even with the team anymore) over Brook Lopez and Roy Hibbert. Oh, and they took Alexis Ajinca over Serge Ibaka, Ryan Anderson, Pekovic, Chalmers, Asik, and Dragic.

I'm sick of typing. Some people can say they've had bad luck, but a team doesn't pass on that type of talent year in and year out without being fucking shitty at scouting. They could have a borderline all star team assembled at this point.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Players that the Bobcats have passed on in NBA Drafts: Bynum, Granger, David Lee, Ilyasova, Ellis, Gortat. That is one draft class.

In the next draft they passed on Roy and Gay in favor of Morrison. Hell, Redick would have been a better pick. Or even Sefolosha. You know the Bobcats had the number 50 pick that year and passed on Rondo and Millsap?

Next year they took Brandon Wright over Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, and Splitter.

Next year they took Augustin (who isn't even with the team anymore) over Brook Lopez and Roy Hibbert. Oh, and they took Alexis Ajinca over Serge Ibaka, Ryan Anderson, Pekovic, Chalmers, Asik, and Dragic.

I'm suck of typing. Some people can say they've had bad luck, but a team doesn't pass on that type of talent year in and year out without being fucking shitty at scouting. They could have a borderline all star team assembled at this point.

The Bobcats traded Brandan Wright.

All of the other examples are examples of them valuing "immediate impact" over future potential which directly contradicts your original argument.

 

[DY_nasty]

Players that the Bobcats have passed on in NBA Drafts: Bynum, Granger, David Lee, Ilyasova, Ellis, Gortat. That is one draft class.

In the next draft they passed on Roy and Gay in favor of Morrison. Hell, Redick would have been a better pick. Or even Sefolosha. You know the Bobcats had the number 50 pick that year and passed on Rondo and Millsap?

Next year they took Brandon Wright over Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, and Splitter.

Next year they took Augustin (who isn't even with the team anymore) over Brook Lopez and Roy Hibbert. Oh, and they took Alexis Ajinca over Serge Ibaka, Ryan Anderson, Pekovic, Chalmers, Asik, and Dragic.

I'm suck of typing. Some people can say they've had bad luck, but a team doesn't pass on that type of talent year in and year out without being fucking shitty at scouting. They could have a borderline all star team assembled at this point.

This shit is so full of hindsight and outright denial of who was worth what at the time...

You're making it sound like we drafted Jordan Hills, Wes Johnsons, Joe Alexanders, and Marvin Williams

All of the other examples are examples of them valuing "immediate impact" over future potential which directly contradicts your original argument.

And especially this.

 

[The Insane Dufresne]

Favors comes in and defense goes from the worst thing in mankind's existence to actually pretty decent.

Has his offense improved this year? At least enough to make up for Millsap or Jefferson leaving?

 

[ph33nix]

good lord we are getting smashed in by hakeem monroe

 

[diehard]

um

Favors can play defense.

Has his offense improved this year? At least enough to make up for Millsap or Jefferson leaving?

He has good touch around the rim but almost all his offense is still dunks and layups set up by others.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Fuck, that stretch by Favors was fucking amazing.

 

[ThisWreckage]

You're making it sound like we drafted Jordan Hills, Wes Johnsons, Joe Alexanders, and Marvin Williams

lol That's exactly what they did. How many Bobcats draft picks are still in the NBA or still with the team? A big name failure is still a failure no matter how you slice it.

 

[obijkenobi]

Manu and TP look off to state the game. Actually, I don't think Manu has been playing that well this year :/

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Kanter and Favors too much on D. Wooo!!

 

[Knux-Future]

Players that the Bobcats have passed on in NBA Drafts: Bynum, Granger, David Lee, Ilyasova, Ellis, Gortat. That is one draft class.

In the next draft they passed on Roy and Gay in favor of Morrison. Hell, Redick would have been a better pick. Or even Sefolosha. You know the Bobcats had the number 50 pick that year and passed on Rondo and Millsap?

Next year they took Brandon Wright over Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, and Splitter.

Next year they took Augustin (who isn't even with the team anymore) over Brook Lopez and Roy Hibbert. Oh, and they took Alexis Ajinca over Serge Ibaka, Ryan Anderson, Pekovic, Chalmers, Asik, and Dragic.

I'm sick of typing. Some people can say they've had bad luck, but a team doesn't pass on that type of talent year in and year out without being fucking shitty at scouting. They could have a borderline all star team assembled at this point.

Bynum totally went before May bro. No one knew about Granger/Lee being this good. Monta was a fucking second rounder. It;s like saying "oh man they totally should have taken Tony Parker yo...everybody knew he was this good back then...dumb teams". Ersan literally JUST started playing good....and Gortat is meh.

and Rondo went like 21st overall..wtf are you even talking about?

You are really getting on them for passing on guys no one knew about? Serge was a project that honestly only panned out because they have Durant.

It's easy to cherry pcik past drafts to pick out guys who should have went higher...but dudes fall for other reasons. Roy for example fell because his knees were red flagged. Rudy was a lazy fuck at UConn. Marc Gasol was fat and not good back then.

You are just looking at names and syaing..yeah they passed on this guy not realizing that at the time there was a reason for that.


They fucked up but they havent taken any Thabeet type dudes

like come on.

 

[DY_nasty]

lol That's exactly what they did. How many Bobcats draft picks are still in the NBA or still with the team? A big name failure is still a failure no matter how you slice it.

Take a look at your posts and try to understand how your argument has changed almost completely since your started your monthly " reasons why #ihatebobcats rant"

 

[Syphon Filter]

felton!

 

[ThisWreckage]

Take a look at your posts and try to understand how your argument has changed almost completely since your started your monthly " reasons why #ihatebobcats rant"

The gist of my argument has remained the same: the Bobcats are the league's worst team at drafting. I don't remember ever thinking, "Adam Morrison, Sean May, and Augustin are going to be high impact players that are going to be able and help this team contend." That is the definition of a project to me.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Spurs missing a lot of open threes, this isn't going to last

Take a look at your posts and try to understand how your argument has changed almost completely since your started your monthly " reasons why #ihatebobcats rant"

Switching mid-argument from "bad teams shouldn't take players they have to wait on" to "the Bobcats should have taken Tiago Splitter and waited four years for his European contract to expire" is interesting though.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Felton with the dagger

 

[Syphon Filter]

Felton with the dagger

not yet,anderson is in.

 

[obijkenobi]

Marvin and Mo Williams are making us their bitch :/

 

[Knux-Future]

Wes. Always Wes.

God tier smile bro.

Can't teach that.


I will admit...I thought Wes would be good..I actually wanted him until we moved up to take Turner.

At least that draft was crap...right?


right?

 

[rando14]

lmfao brandon jennings with the blistering 1-15 fg

 

[DY_nasty]

The gist of my argument has remained the same: the Bobcats are the league's worst team at drafting. I don't remember ever thinking, "Adam Morrison, Sean May, and Augustin are going to be high impact players that are going to be able and help this team contend." That is the definition of a project to me.

You don't know what a project is.

And there are teams much, much worse at drafting. Developing talent? A different thing entirely. Bob Johnson's organization was entirely different than MJ's - but that's not even the point you're trying to make either.

 

[captmcblack]

Kenyon Martin having a throwback game.

 

[obijkenobi]

lmfao brandon jennings with the blistering 1-15 fg

Just lulling the other team into false complacency bro

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Kenyon Martin having a throwback game.

Don't jinx him

 

[Future PhaZe]

Porter was even worse than Smart.

I believe in Kelly Olynyk

 

[diehard]

I think Splitter really really hates Favors.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Tiago Splitter is terrified of Derrick Favors.

 

[Syphon Filter]

scrub anderson

 

[RedAssedApe]

magic gonna upset the thunder?

 

[Knux-Future]

Porter was even worse than Smart.

I believe in Kelly Olynyk

In the cellar for Zeller brah.




this draft is free

 

[Psychological Intellect]

wait, what happened to wade?

 

[Zeus Molecules]

WTF was that Lowry?

 

[captmcblack]

Raptors are setting up for heroball.

 

[ph33nix]

wait, what happened to wade?

Hurt his wrist falling while trying a dunk he shouldn't have tried