You are welcome to your viewpoints. I just don't understand it and disagree with it. You are welcome to posit arguments to change my view, or add to the discussion.
2014 Israel-Gaza Conflict [UN: 1,525+ Palestinian dead, mostly civilian; 66 Israeli]
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You are welcome to your viewpoints. I just don't understand it and disagree with it. You are welcome to posit arguments to change my view, or add to the discussion.
Rockets that have killed 28 people since they started over 10 years ago? Why, Israel's response is entirely justified then! Never mind the fact that the rockets are retaliation. Israel are the aggressors here.
Gucci Messiah
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Pro-Hamas may have been the wrong words to use, anti-Israel is more like it.
Not blaming you since I should have articulated my point better but maybe you shouldn't jump straight into "he's lying or trolling" mode.
Oh wow, look at this:
Right on time
What is wrong with being anti-Israel?
Well no fucking shit genius. Israel is a terrorist state.
There we go.
Why doesn't it have the right to exist?
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Of course people are anti-Israel. Hamas is just a terrorist organization with limited to no capacity to inflict serious harm. Israel is an apartheid state illegally occupying the territory of another peoples and murdering their civilians. Why should the split in opinion be 50/50? I apologize for being blunt, but my overwhelming experience of those who defend Israel is constant "Hamas is just as bad!" or "why don't you care about Syria?" statements. I'm tired of them. They sicken me on a basic moral level. I do not ever wish to hear them levied as a genuine defense of Israel's actions. In the event there is a genuine defense for what Israel is doing right now, I am more than willing to listen to it; but a precondition for that is that the other person justifies these actions with careful consideration.
Gucci Messiah
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Are you really trying to downplay the loss of human life because less people have been killed by rocket attacks from Hamas? Wow. Also, you're ignoring the psychological damage these things cause.
Both sides are to blame, all I said is that Israel is probably tired of this crap and is using extreme force to deal with the situation. They've had to fight to survive as a nation since 1948, it's all they know. Not saying what they're doing is right, just that you have to look at things from both sides.
I dunno man, maybe because they constantly steal land from the palestinians, cripple them economically and indiscriminately murder women and children? But I digress, like I said in the part everyone ignored, that likely won't happen so the best I'd hope for is the insane government to go away.
In war it's just a way to dehumanize the other side.
Gucci Messiah
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Terrorist state? I don't think so. Also, you need to calm down with the insults man.
Could be from some military training. Most military trainings do that once in a while.
Summer Haze
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What crap, exactly? What could they be tired of to warrant the killings of innocent children?
He's blind.
Can anyone translate the writing? I'm interested to see what's written.
thequickandthedead
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I've heard the argument that the British had no right to give the Jews someone else's country.
That's going to be slightly harder to erase than simply deleting a tweet and apologising to the 'equally' affected Israeli people.
I was making a general comment too. I just quoted your post.
njean777
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Yeah at this point you would think Israel would be smart enough to know that this is exactly what Hamas wants. But I guess they either do not care, or do care and are trying to just exterminate them at this point.
A lunatic state at the very least. They've battered the Palestinian peoples for decades upon decades, engage in psychological warfare as well the stealing of land and expansion of their borders. They're also not willing to take real steps in solving the situation.
Gucci Messiah
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Oh I don't know, maybe having rockets fired into their territory? Having their people live in fear? Seeing people die?
Stop trying to twist my words too, nowhere have I condoned the killing of innocents on either side or used the flimsy "shit happens in war" excuse. What I said is that they're using extreme force but that doesn't make their response right.
Now I know that you're a troll, thanks, I can add you to my ignore list now
Can't say I blame Israel, given the Arabs have had two major wars to get rid of them. Though that is no excuse for the current Palestinian death toll, it is disgusting to see people used as human shields by Hamas and equally disgusting to see the extremist elements inside Israel pushing for this slaughter.
Can't we all get along?
Can't we all get along?
Whatever is written could be falsified, it's not like only jews can write hebrew.
jakonovski
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What benefit do most tyrants ever get from hurting and murdering people? It's just the dark side of the human psyche, the ape that bites off the face of another.
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qizah
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The fact that none of the international leaders has said anything against such an atrocious attack against citizens baffles me.
Fuck this world.
Fuck this world.
shinobi602
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Fucking savages.
wat
He was being sarcastic.
Not real, just Palestinian propaganda.
They are pictures of makeup artists.
http://www.adamstafford.org/wordpress/?p=56
Importance of a Makeup Artist on Your Movie
http://www.warpaintmag.com/2014/04/02/the-body-farm/
Well, we didn't. It's like kicking America out of the USA so that the natives can have it back.
Looks like propaganda tbh.
Well this post says: The murder of innocent children is okay because they were attacked by rockets themself. That's condoning the murder of innocent people...
BrokenEchelon
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Pieces of fucking shit.
Gucci Messiah
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What the heck? If that's what you got out of my post, okay.
The IDF's defence has an effective rate of 99.99% of protecting its citizens without the need for the grand loss of life of innocent civilians.
Well that explains it.
Succinct Verbosity
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Ultimately all this has done has made the families of 40 people more radicalised against Israel, and regardless of your stance of Israel, Palestine or any two state system, these strikes are bitterly fruitless and are just going to lead to more airstrikes in the future.
take it you didn't read my whole post
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This is somewhat unfair an accusation. Prior to the British, there had never been a Palestinian nation-state. It wasn't like the British conquered a Palestinian nation and divided up land to give to the Jewish people - prior to British arrival, it had been the territory of the Ottoman Empire, extending back 400 years. Before that, the territory of the Mamluk Sultanate. What's more, there had always been Jewish residents in Mandatory Palestine - around 800,000 at the time the British left in 1947. Presumably, if the non-Jewish peoples of Mandatory Palestine had the right to statehood, the right also extends to the Jewish people.
The real failure lies with the unwillingness of the United Nations to provide a proper peace-keeping force to enforce the provisions set out in the 1947 Partition Plan. Britain was never going to be able to do it alone; they had insufficient forces and there was no willingness to help at a domestic level.
This. And what's most pathetic is that the rest of the world does nothing in retaliation. Pathetic.
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