Refund and free with gold after they fix it. I know it will never happen, but it's what they should do.
343 addresses ongoing Halo MCC Matchmaking issues
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Refund and free with gold after they fix it. I know it will never happen, but it's what they should do.
GringoSuave89
Banned
You're insane.
Increased XB1 sales don't mean shit to 343. Just because they're part of Microsoft doesn't mean they're going to see any of the sales profits. MCC has been something they've been working on at least two years. And you want them to refund/give it away? No. Never going to happen, and nor should it.
The Destiny issues are fairly minor when compared to the rest but they are still there. The most recent patch messed up party chat on X1. A day doesn't go by when someone isn't booted to orbit. Again not game breaking but they are there.
Skullface
Member
Probably more money than most gaffers will make in a life time.
It would be MS decision. 343i are funded through MS. Do you have a source of how long MCC has been in the works? Seems like it took less than a year.
Take in consideration that this is 4 retail games under one package and as many developers working at it. While on paper MCC issues are bigger compared to Driveclub, the fact that DC was done under one roof and delayed and still had/still have problem, make it, IMO, a worst case.
Ok so then on the flip side Driveclub is a new franchise and while I'm sure they had big hopes...
Halo on the other hand is a pilar on which the xbox brand was built. For your super collection to come out and be a buggy piece of shit...
Doesn't seem to me both games have the same weight as the other.
To multibillion Microsoft though... Wouldn't even put a dent in their bankroll.
dragonelite
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if they offered 2 free community chosen halo 2 maps remade for halo 2 anniversary.
For me personally that is the best option a couple of more maps.
Oh good...the infinite money argument has made it here.
My Super collection? geez.
It doesnt matter if its a New or stablished franchise, regardless, no game should be released with issues of this magnitude, but when you have 4 or 5 developers working on already stablished code, there is a higher chance of bugs, which is not the same as one Developer working a code from scratch.
MS supporters are friends of MS.
If I was rich and I deceived and sold my friends something broken and they called me out on it, I would give it to them for free instead of losing friends and future sales.
I know Arena wasn't well recieved in many places, but I just wanna say how much I loved it.
In some ways, it felt like the natural evolution of the Team Hardcore playlist in Halo 2.
Every month you compete, and the game lets you know how you rank in comparison to everyone else.
I just thought that was REALLY cool. It's a shame it didn't catch on.
Dude, you should be a little more aware of how much things cost before making statements like that.
MS doesnt have any friends.
Man, Halo Reach multiplayer was straight up garbage. I'm surprised people actually defend that game.
Not a single memorable new map, like 95% Forge maps (at least in the BTB playlist), new weapons were shit, Invasion mode wasn't played by anybody and only supported on like two maps, the armor abilities and loadouts were awful ideas, bloom, etc.
Biggest problem with Halo 4 multiplayer is that it continued with all the BS that Bungie introduced in Reach.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Budget for a project does not equal revenue for employees.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I can't believe refunds across the board and then giving the game out for free to everyone based on server and matchmaking issues is actually a serious suggestion.
I've read some crazy stuff on GAF but that is up there.
I've read some crazy stuff on GAF but that is up there.
The weapons were also poorly balanced and the lack of a fun ranking system really hurt the game. With the 1-50 system, there was instant gratification seeing the number next to your name go up. It felt good. The arena felt more like a chore than anything else. After a long day of school or work, no one wants to play several placement matches a day for several days before getting a meaningless number. It just wasn't fun.
Reach itself was not a very good Halo in my opinion, the fact that it's held in such high regard by some baffles me.
It didn't catch on because the game wasn't competitive, at all. As someone said, bloom & armor lock are probably the 2 worst additions to the Halo franchise ever, and I doubt anything in 5 tops them.
Or instead it just sets the precedent to consumers that if a game isn't working at launch that everybody will get it for free.
This is pretty bad though. I can understand some games have problems but MCC is on another level. Plus the further negative effect it will have on the Halo name.
People forget rather quickly how bad bloom was, this is a mechanic that made every encounter with the main precision weapon random, some people spammed, other paused their shots, other did 3 spam pause 2 spam, etc and no option guaranteed you could could win a DMR battle, so the outcome of every fight was a coin toss, then you put in a 5sk, no bleedtrough, sprint, armor lock, it only made it more frustrating as this element had an impact on the Kill Times and the flow of the game.
I still remember how Frustrating it was to try and Killl with a bloom DMR a half shield opponent that was sprinting to hide. looking back at this, I prefer to pay 120 dollars for MCC as it is right now, than to play launch Reach.
Yea, Reach is without a doubt, in my mind, the worst Halo ever made. 343 continued the shenanigans, but at least the weapons weren't random, but it sucked too.
killer rin
Member
The sad thing about all of this is that the games in this pack aren't bad (well, excluding Halo 4 multiplayer). When the MCC works, its an absolutely amazing experience which every Halo Fan has dreamed of for a long time and can be extremely addicting. But the game itself just doesn't work.
This pack should have been a runaway success. It should have been a financial success and been a boost to the Xbox Platform. It should have boosted the name of 343i. It should have been in a working state. But instead 343i have left a large blackspot on their name and dealt damage to the franchise they are in charge of. Really, some of these problems extend past simple server errors and the game should have been delayed to fix them. And as a fan, thats slightly annoying.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Destiny? I think I have been disconnected from that game maybe 2 times which is an astounding feat if I think about how many hours I have put into it.
It's been discussed before, but I think the best option would be a a couple more free Halo 2 Anniversary maps for everyone. An extra week of Halo 5 beta means absolutely nothing to me.
BeamImpact
Member
Halo Reach and ODST free DLC and im fine
id also take more permanent dedicated CE playlists
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Reach Anniversary was actually pretty good. I still play it once in awhile. To bad they took away the BTB playlist.
You will have to be crazy to rush to preorder Halo 5. Everyone is going to wait till it launches and sees the online before buying.
EdibleExplosives
Member
Reach has the worst multiplayer of the series imo. Not only did it introduce a bunch of shit that should never have been in a Halo game to begin with, the actual core mechanics of the game just didn't feel right. The aiming, movement and so on just felt off.
I didn't find the game fun at all. And don't get me started on what they did to BTB. If you didn't like Invasion, you were fucked.
Yeah Halo 4 added more bullshit on top of the already existing shit from Reach, but at least underneath those layers there was a fun game.
Give everyone a 25% refund for the trouble. All that can really subsidize the annoyance.
Diablohead
Member
lately for me I am being disconnected randomly every few hours, sometimes as I try to do something like quit an objective or walk between loading zones.
Teletraan1
Banned
But it happened 2 times so it has to be listed. We live in a 1 or 0 society where just to prove a point we have to exaggerate the shortcomings of something else.
Have you seen Exchange?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Entitlement to a working product costs more than 60 dollars. It costs your ever-living soul and your first born, as well.
The only thing you are entitled to is being screwed for spending money on broken products.
KeyboardThug
Member
Same for me and I really don't even like the game besides the raid. I only play with friends so it becomes even worse when we can't get a game going.
Gravemind IV
Member
Got the 'untracked version, won't upload' bug 3 times today in Halo 4. I wonder how that one got through Q&A as it happens A LOT.
moltonasty
Member
Realistically, how Long should it take to get this game to acceptable levels?
KeyboardThug
Member
As far as I can tell sense there were different developers for each game that the plug and play aspect of putting each game into one unified menu/base code was not as easy as they would of hoped.
link1201
Member
Unfortunately, I think it'll be at least 3 weeks. This is just a guess on my part.
Kssio_Aug
Member
moltonasty
Member
I have other games to play in the meantime so I don't mind too much. But it's still pretty much unacceptable that consumers are expected to be ok with waiting a month or more after launch to use a $60 product. They should've just delayed it a month.