CyberPunked
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The devs have said you could, but you can't.
A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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ScatheZombie
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It depends what I'm supposed to say and when I'm saying it. I have personally said things were in our game that actually were not in the game at the moment I said them but planned to be implemented; or they were in the game but were not yet completely functional, or were in the game but turned out to be completely-fuck-broken.
I've also been in positions where I'm specifically barred from saying anything about anything until a 'full response' can be conjured up from Satan. The one or two times I broke ranks on this, I was almost fired.
I meant looking down into water, specifically. I see a bioshock mention which was a single scripted moment. Not something you could do freely during gameplay.
This video should be added to the OP because it quickly shows that Sean Murray has said several times in media events that you can see other people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
There's been no concrete confirmation so far, as of now it's looking like "no". We'll know for sure Friday.
Does it though? I can't think of any other examples where devs described things you could do or experience (regardless of how small the odds) and then it just doesn't exist.
Sure there's back and forth between stuff like raid vs incursion (The Division) but at the end of the day there was still end game content that required multiple players.
Wow. 5000+ posts on GAF. Multiple topics on Reddit. A flood of direct tweets seeking an answer. Multiple inquiries from journalists and youtubers and....
Sean's twitter has been dead for 20 hours....
He hasn't gone this long without a tweet since last month. It's getting awkward.
Sean's twitter has been dead for 20 hours....
He hasn't gone this long without a tweet since last month. It's getting awkward.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Sean tried to tell us but he was in a different instance.
This is all we where able to get from him.
There'll be a huge thread on NeoGAF, I'm sure.
Kind of like this one. But with walls made of solid gold and pants made of solid silver.
I get the feeling they don't want to address it until after the full launch, maybe.
FortuneFaded
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It's called No Man's Sky. Clue is in the title.
Not much.
At first there was a picture circulating around that's not the one in OP where it showed that the sticker could be peeled off revealing that originally the game was meant to have online interactivity.
A lot of people called it to be fake, while I thought I was foolish at the time to believe it.
However, another one popped up that's in OP.
Here's the first "fake":
Recently posted, interesting stuff, time-stamp included. Would love to know if real.
Here's the second one that popped up
Here you go
Leithkorias
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People thought this was fake? Lol... they also did it on PSN Store. I tried to point this out yesterday but people seemed to ignore me.
jellies_two
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well if there is a sticker then it means perhaps Sean did have code, or plans, for multiuser interaction but it got put aside to meet deadline because it was always going to be hard for a small studio and he was back-pedalling but unable to really bring himself to sully the launch with a statement that they couldn't get it in as a feature.
Maybe he even thought it could be a day one patch.
Then he thought, oh, well I'll just use server naming traffic as cover.
Now he has fully realised how a small white lie has blown up and is hiding in a corner somewhere.
Well I won't jump the gun just yet but we have come to a similar conclusion.
That something was planned but was unable to be implemented.
Wouldn't make any other sense why these stickers exist.
If there are online functionalities, it really makes you wonder why else Sean would circumvent the issue. He doesn't even have to spoil what is there just say whether it is still possible.
LukasTaves
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I already posted this video, but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLtmEjqzg7M
Forget the interviews, if multiplayer was never meant to be a big important feature of the game don't fucking announce the game with a trailer that almost entirely shows coop action.
Edit: To be honest I don't think they outright lied. They probably were very far off (both financially and development wise) to deliver that and the game reeks of something that should be now in early access but it's getting pushed as a full game.
Well that's pretty interesting. Thanks for the quick rundown.
Gotdatmoney
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I'm confused reading this. Is the issue that people thought they could meet each other online and then from that they would be able to play with each other? Is that why this is a big deal?
UncleSporky
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The way Sean tweeted about "easter eggs" and "cool moments" makes me think more and more that their implementation of multiplayer is that when you visit a planet someone else has already been to, there's a 5% chance to spawn an AI that is supposed to behave like a player would.
"Here is what it would look like if you actually were to meet another player" instead of anything resembling actual player-to-player connectivity.
"Here is what it would look like if you actually were to meet another player" instead of anything resembling actual player-to-player connectivity.
chillybright
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I have a feeling that there won't be any response before the pc launch because they think a clear "no" (which seems like to be the case) will lead to some pre-orders to be canceled.
At this point I think it has more to do with the developer's dodgy and shady attitude than the multiplayer feature itself.
Gamezone
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People don't care if it's it multiplayer or not, but they want the possibility to see other players to be real. Why is this so hard for many to understand? They markedet the possibility that way, and trust me, they would have sold less copies if they told everyone the truth before the release. You have to stop defending this bullshit. The developers have probably sold so many copies based on their lie that they probably won't have to develop another game ever again.
That trailers looks alot better than what was released. The beginning looks alot more alive compared to all the streams.
The issue is this.
Sean has stated multiple times that other players can see you and you can see them.
Sure you might not be able to "interact" with them other than viewing them.
However, this is the only known way to see your own avatar in the game.
This has been tested extensively by two twitch streamers. They have tried a lot of things today and yesterday.
They even made sure to connect online and get rid of whatever the NAT setting was and nothing happened.
Right now, all we want is clarification and that is what we're not getting
Pop
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Nothing says coop here. Those are just AIs. We've known about the ability to make friends with the factions in game. That is more like consumers assuming or over hyping their selves up. C'mon man
Can't believe this thread is still up. It's entirely pointless at this time.
So confirmed 100% it's not a capacity or other technical issue?
These are from Sean Murray's Twitter on the 8th. (2 days ago)
https://twitter.com/nomanssky/status/762688708764135425
To be super clear - No Man's Sky is not a multiplayer game. Please don't go in looking for that experience.
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/762689755792412672
We do have some online features and easter eggs so people can know they are playing in the same universe. It's about cool "moments"
https://twitter.com/nomanssky/status/762688708764135425
To be super clear - No Man's Sky is not a multiplayer game. Please don't go in looking for that experience.
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/762689755792412672
We do have some online features and easter eggs so people can know they are playing in the same universe. It's about cool "moments"
They know exactly what they're doing.
Gamezone
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What do you think? Players have tried it many times, and they are not able to see each other. Sean knows about the issue, and he doesn't reply at all.
Pop
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If you just read this thread, then yeah. But you might want to wait till Sean says anything else on the matter.
Not confirmed as of yet. Still waiting on Sean to answer
More than just the 2 players? Hard to keep up with this thread.
SolidChamp
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101 pages...for this.
It might be like a 'ghost' or replay of a player that was there in the past, a bit like racing games have ghosts of the fastest lap times.
The issue is that Sean (the lead developer) has made routine statements for years in various interviews and QA sessions that now appear to be completely false (like the ability to see other players). When looking back at all of those statements, the consistent theme was that it is possible to see others but 'The game is so large, that the chances of that happening are basically zero'.
Then hours before launch, a single tweet goes out saying that NMS is not a multiplayer game and players should not go in expecting that. However, this was followed with more tweets that bring it back into a vague area.
Now we sit just 48 hours after launch, people are discovering that (apparently) nothing happens when two players are in the same place at the same time. There has been a flood of questions about if simply a feature is broken, servers are struggling, conditions are not being met etc.. Sean's twitter has been dead for almost 24 hours and there has been no concrete response to this.
Gamezone
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"No you can't meet other players, but there are some cool moments like naming planets and animals".
That's what he is trying to say.
travisbickle
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No it's not confirmed either way. There's another two people, description on reddit, trying to meet and they say the game crashes when they are close. From personal experience, the only crash I've had is trying to upload a 100% planet to the servers, the short time I had connection to the servers, so could be server issue. Who knows?
Why is it pointless when the developer has tweeted on the official Twitter account about being really surprised that two players are meeting in the game, and when pressed about it, he doesn't give any clarification of what he means? I think that's the biggest question for most rational people here. The majority of people probably don't feel cheated or that they "lied" about multiplayer or anything. It's just weird to have him specifically mention something like this, and then clam up when streamers wanted to explore it further and found that it doesn't seem to work.
So what does this mean? This was 20 hours ago.
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/763270259080097792
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/763270512277594112
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/763270760240713728
Maybe they should try with more than 2 players - maybe everyone should just try and meet at the same spot?
Gamezone
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Someone tried it today. Don't know if it's the same players.
Remember what he said during his AMA.
If he is forced to keep tight lips on something, it's likely contractual. Which would point to Sony.
Pop
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There's a problem with this
Heavy game spoiler
All players could be in a different galaxy. The ones who tried it were definitely in the same system and planet as any renaming done by other reflected to the other player
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