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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I think there was either a dream or someone prophesizing about a "Mummer's dragon" which many took to be that there was another Targaryen out there.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Pretty much, one of Dany's visions in the house of the undying featured a literal mummers dragon.
nope... lol a reread is definitely due. I have forgotten so much.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Read the Dunk and Egg stories if you haven't. I especially loved the first one.
bengraven
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Was really proud I guessed it before the book came out. It dawned on me one day and when I read the book I felt good.
viciouskillersquirrel
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The Dunk and Egg stories have never been published outside of the US as far as I'm aware. That makes me sad.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Damn that sucks. There will eventually be a collection of just Dunk and Egg stories published in one book, and that will probably make it outside the US. Of course there's no telling how long that will take to happen.
I was pretty happy when I figured out that Abel was Mance pretty much right away. Some of my friends that read it never picked up on that. Of course my happiness was dashed when I realized that I was too slow to realize that Abel is an anagram of Bael.
KuwabaraTheMan
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I felt so dumb when I got to the letter in the final Jon chapter and then went "of course, Abel is Mance!"
I felt good about picking up on the Frey pies right away, though.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I was a little slow on the Frey pie, who knew Manderly could be such a bad ass.
Does the no spoiler-tags policy also apply to the Dunk and Egg novellas?
I think I know why I don't pick up as many hints. It's because I usually read at night before I go to sleep and then I'm only able to read a couple of pages, sometimes only two before I get sleepy. While I can follow the main plot this way I often miss the hints I suppose. Sometimes I take a whole afternoon to read a couple of chapters but yeah, my usual style is a couple of pages before sleep.
Abel = Mance was pretty obvious I thought. I didn't realise that with the Frey pies though.
I think I know why I don't pick up as many hints. It's because I usually read at night before I go to sleep and then I'm only able to read a couple of pages, sometimes only two before I get sleepy. While I can follow the main plot this way I often miss the hints I suppose. Sometimes I take a whole afternoon to read a couple of chapters but yeah, my usual style is a couple of pages before sleep.
Abel = Mance was pretty obvious I thought. I didn't realise that with the Frey pies though.
Emerson
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How often do you play with 6 players?
Schmitty
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All the time. We just need 2 players to catch up in reading. The idea of Stannis at the Wall is awesome.
Emerson
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If you get 6 players a lot then the mini-expansion is absolutely worth it. It's a really interesting setup and some of the new House cards are really cool. But make sure everybody is caught up, as you mentioned. I'd be happy to answer any specific questions too.
I bought it because I'm an ASOIAF nutjob as well as a board game nutjob. But I still haven't gotten to use it because I'm almost always playing 3-5 players, and even when I get 6 players they're all show-watchers only.
Schmitty
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Sucks that it is online only. I wonder if hobby shops stock some
This may be the best question ever asked by an interviewer: "You are an evil writer because you kill a lot of the main characters. How do you manage with that?"
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endlessflood
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R + L = J confirmedGeorge R.R. Martin said:
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
LOL
It's good to hear that GRRM doesn't care if the fans already guessed correctly. I thought the interview was interesting enough, even though some of those questions were facepalm-worthy...R + L = J confirmed
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I agree.
timetokill
Banned
he also confirmed that (show spoilers)
. Maybe that was confirmed already, I dunno.
He's not writing the Red Wedding
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Benioff and Weiss are. I hope they can do it justice.
So do I.
dead souls
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There are so many problems with the show that I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to bitch about Headey's Cersei. It isn't one of my favorite performances on television or anything, but she's doing a pretty good job.
It's not exactly easier to get "drunk" right, quite the opposite. Wouldn't kill you to admit she absolutely nailed it.
They wrote Baelor, I suppose they can handle it.
Lena's awful most of the time, but she was brilliant in Blackwater.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
The shows version of Cersei is different from the books, and for the version presented I've always thought she did a good job.
Steelyuhas
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Agreed. D & D have made a clear choice to make Cersei a bit different in the show, and I know they've stated that they wanted to have her transform into the crazy paranoid person that she is in the books over the course of the show.
I always felt like Lena's done a good job with what was written for her, especially in season 2.
I don't remember Cersei being that emotional in the first book.
bengraven
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So that confirms we'll see it this season. grinchgrin
I don't know where you are located, but Amazon.co.uk has them.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0006483941/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0007154364/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0765320487/
Sho_Nuff82
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Her character is much more believable then book Cersei through book 2, due to additional scenes with Robert and Joffrey fleshing out her character.
Monocle
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Contrarian! Lena Headey brought more to Cersei than most of the other actors could claim to have done for their own characters. I'd say she's rivaled by Tyrion, Varys, Arya, and maybe Littlefinger for best adapted character.
BertramCooper
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The Headey hate is so ridiculously overblown.
She has been great, and will only get better as the material she is given improves. (As we all know it will.)
She has been great, and will only get better as the material she is given improves. (As we all know it will.)
The real dragons of Aegon the Conquerer. Brandon Snow was a brother to Torrhen Stark, the Kneeling King, apparently.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brandon_Snow
It seems weirwood (arrows) can kill/hurt dragons and the young man with the angry eyes in Bran's vision might be that Brandon Snow who planned to sneak up to the Targ's camp and kill the dragons with the arrows made from Winterfell's Heart Tree. All this is from the Westeros forum, where I don't have an account.
But the wiki just references the Worl of ASoIaF book, which isn't out?!
Yeah, but no thanks to the novellas I can't read, having to rely on an internet forum to even KNOW that the Blackfyres are probably a big fucking deal in Martin's mind and not something that was just thrown out into the story to have a few more ancient battles and a convenient army of sellswords in Essos just sucks.
Ye gods, amazing. Now I have to figure out how to order from the UK without paying a stupid amount of mail fees.
The only editions you can find on Amazon Germany's English books section are going for over a hundred 100€ used, at least last time I checked.
Took some time, but just five minutes ago I finally finished ADWD (And now my watch wait begins). The epilogue was great; Varys is one of my three favorite characters amongst Littlefinger and Arya.
I think I'm going to read a bunch of pages in this thread now and compare my theories with those posted.
I think I'm going to read a bunch of pages in this thread now and compare my theories with those posted.
What you got to remember is that Lena is only going on the books so far (If she has read them), it's only after you get her POV's that you get more into her head. This would make Lena's job much easier if she had read all the way through.
Saying that, I don't watch the show and boo her every time she's on the screen, she's fine. I have other characters that I dislike but there's no point in moaning, they're not going to be replaced and they may get better.
Saying that, I don't watch the show and boo her every time she's on the screen, she's fine. I have other characters that I dislike but there's no point in moaning, they're not going to be replaced and they may get better.
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