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A Song of Ice and Fire -- **Unmarked Spoilers For All Books including ADWD**
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PhoenixDark
Banned
Anyone who spoils the RW should be permabanned, period. That shit is stupid, I truly feel bad for people who saw that post. Now if you're reading youtube/yahoo/etc comments and get spoiled that's your fault. But here, in a non-GoT thread, that shouldn't happen.
Forsaken82
Member
I am not sure whats worse... the guy who spoiled it or half dozen or so posters who decided to quote it... (at least im assuming they quoted it since they now have a . in there quotes... )
John Dunbar
correct about everything
Apparently Martin has read two more chapters from the Winds of Winter,
. Seems like more leftovers from Dance.
Some impressions on reddit (spoilers):
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/18o32j/spoilers_twow_new_twow_chapters_read_at_boskone/
And someone at Westeros.org posted more detailed recaps (more spoilers):
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/81338-twow-spoilers-barristan/#entry4122024
both of them Barristan POVs
Some impressions on reddit (spoilers):
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/18o32j/spoilers_twow_new_twow_chapters_read_at_boskone/
And someone at Westeros.org posted more detailed recaps (more spoilers):
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/81338-twow-spoilers-barristan/#entry4122024
I'm ignoring all posts in this thread because I've just started book 2, but how far should I read into book 2 before starting season 2 (I like to read it before I see it). I've heard some people say that season 2 covers half of book 2 and the other half say season 2 covers all of book 2.
Basileus777
Member
Season 2 covers all of book 2, though it drifts from the source material in places.
blainethemono
Member
season 2 covers all of book 2 and also a tiny bit of book 3, iirc
Cpt.Underpants
Member
Basileus777
Member
The waiting just got started, you can't start freaking out this early!
At least a year, but I don't expect it to be out til 2015.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
2015 at the absolute earliest. And that's unlikely.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
That shit cray.
Basileus777
Member
Don't give him false expectations, there's no way it's coming out next year. Summer 2015 was my best case scenario, but I don't think he's on track for that either.
ADWD would have been a much better book with the battle of Meereen in it...
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
That ain't no shit. Martin needs to ditch whoever helped him edit AFFC/ADWD. Such terrible pacing.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Can we spoiler tag discussion of unreleased material?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Macmanus
Member
This made me so giddy.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
For unreleased books though?
Yes, this please.
The subset of people that read all the sampler chapters and want to discuss it is probably really small.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Yeah. In the past, spoilers for future stuff has always been marked. A lot of us don't want to know exactly what happens in every chapter that's been read at some convention.
Next year isn't 2015.
I reckon spoiler tags for anything not published, always. A new thread can be started for those who aren't worried about spoilers for unpublished stuff, if it bugs people that much. I'm not worried about spoilers myself, but I can see why they should be tagged in here.
Basileus777
Member
"At least a year" starts at 2014.
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
I just finished aDwD. I can't believe he killed Jon like he did. I'm so upset right now. I imagine he lives on through his wolf at least. Jon and Bran have been my 2 favorite characters since the beginning, WHY BOWEN MARSH?? WHY!? That whole chapeter ends up being a big tease, was really looking forward to him taking down the Bastard of Bolton.
I think melisandre Will revive him
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Yeah. I just can't see Jon staying dead.
Yeah. Same way thoros keeps reviving the lightning lord.
Saint Gregory
Member
Yep, I think they set that up really well. There's no way that she wouldn't have gotten him out of there if it wasn't her plan all along to force him into her debt by reviving him.
Backwards Marathon
Member
I'm 10% convinced that Jon is dead. There's just no way. I think he warged into Ghost then Melisandre can revive his body.
toddhunter
Member
Got to love a series where spoilers can be both for upcoming works and also 5-7 years old.
I'm pretty close to 0%...and the only reason it isn't 0 is because of the chance that the bit where he comes back never actually gets written.
Mance provided me with two "OH SHIT." moments in ADWD. When he got rid of his Rattleshirt disguise, and when my brain finally realized that Abel and his washerwomen were him and the spearwives. I was like "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...FUCK."
If Jon is dead, he's not going to stay dead.
If Jon is dead, he's not going to stay dead.
Mackenzie 92
Member
I hope Jon is dead for good, he was stupid like Ned and deserved it. Plus GRRM will start to lose a little credibility with his killings if he starts pulling the just kidding thing too much.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
I kind of skimmed through the spoilers posted, and all I'll say is that it seems like the new book will finally move at a decent pace similar to the first 2-3 books rather than the sloth like ADWD. That's good.
I highly doubt Jon is dead, but I won't mind if he is. Getting a bit sick of his character. On that note though, I wouldn't mind if the Dragons completely blew Essos off the face of the world though, and then ripped Dany to pieces.
I actually finished reading these books a year ago, and googling for forums on it, found my introduction to NeoGAF. I read so many complaints about the wait for a new book, and how the big man takes forever, but if it weren't for the TV show I could probably forget about this series until close to TWOW release, or at the very least, easily continue living my life if he croaks and I never get to read it.
I actually finished reading these books a year ago, and googling for forums on it, found my introduction to NeoGAF. I read so many complaints about the wait for a new book, and how the big man takes forever, but if it weren't for the TV show I could probably forget about this series until close to TWOW release, or at the very least, easily continue living my life if he croaks and I never get to read it.
At this point it'd be cliche if he did kill him off. His mo seems to just be killing off everyones favourite character.
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
+1 for spoiler tagging unreleased material.
Human Jon can definitely be dead for good I think. I can see us reading chapter after chapter through the Wolf's point of view in the next book.
I did not realize Abel was Mance, I want to reread those Theon chapters now..
Human Jon can definitely be dead for good I think. I can see us reading chapter after chapter through the Wolf's point of view in the next book.
I did not realize Abel was Mance, I want to reread those Theon chapters now..
hemtae
Member
I guess you missed the whole bitching about Arianne's first chapter.
Lionheart1337
Member
"Kneelers"
Exactly when it clicked for me. Also the whole Abel thing reminded me of Cain and Abel. They were brothers right? So was Mance. A Night's Watch brother.
I've been reading all kinds of wacky theories about Jon. I think he'll be back in some way.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
Yup. I have no idea what you're talking about. Care to fill me in? Spoiler tag it I guess.
hemtae
Member
http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html
Its one of his sample chapters.
Some characters are introduced, Arianne thinks about stuff, they travel a little ways and that's about it
Mackenzie 92
Member
has there been a major death since rob?
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah I never realized that until reading it here either. I should go back and read those chapters to see if I can pick up the clues.
hemtae
Member
Quentyn and Kevan and Pycelle. Tywin happened in the same book but chronologically after.
There's one at the end of ADWD, but nobody believes they are really dead.
Jon Snow
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