They plug in between your controller and console and lets you run scriptsWait, I'm just now learning about this. So this is the thing that lets you use M&K on consoles?
Also it has scripts that can be mapped to I assume a button press.
Does it affect anything in game? Like, it says it has an anti-recoil feature. How could that work if it didn't alter the game files? I'm wondering how it is harming activation when I can make macros on my controller? Aren't there actual cheating softwares out there to go after rather than a controller adapter? Perhaps this is just such a wide spread issue that they have to act?
I don't think Activision wins thisI wonder if Game Genie case law will be brought up by the defendants.
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To add to this I know as of a couple of years ago Acti knew for a fact a few of the larger content creators used these devices while streaming and this always shows up at their COD NEXT events where these streamers seem to not be able to even shoot straight anymoreWhen PlayStation secured the Call of Duty marketing rights, the esport switched over to the PS4 platform, and they had to use Cronuses at these LAN events as it was the only viable way to disable and bypass Bluetooth in the DS4 controllers at the time. They learned of the Bluetooth problem at a tournament where the players experienced significant input lag caused by interference. The usage of Cronuses ended with the release of MW2019 when the esport moved to PC (controller only, still), where the players then started using programs to "overclock" their DS4 controllers by raising the polling rate.
Just a bit of history to show that Activision (who had purchased MLG, therefore becoming the league owner), essentially, funded the Cronus business to maintain competitive integrity at their live tournaments for 4 years.
Is this a parody?Fuck Activision. Hope the jury see through their nonsense.
I have never played a Call of Duty game, but trying to fuck over someone for life for supposed cheating? Disgusting. No video game is that fucking serious.
They go to those reveal events for the exposure, and they get exposed.To add to this I know as of a couple of years ago Acti knew for a fact a few of the larger content creators used these devices while streaming and this always shows up at their COD NEXT events where these streamers seem to not be able to even shoot straight anymore
Damn, Activision literally out here funding the Taliban/Al-Qaeda of cheats from the very beginning.When PlayStation secured the Call of Duty marketing rights, the esport switched over to the PS4 platform, and they had to use Cronuses at these LAN events as it was the only viable way to disable and bypass Bluetooth in the DS4 controllers at the time. They learned of the Bluetooth problem at a tournament where the players experienced significant input lag caused by interference. The usage of Cronuses ended with the release of MW2019 when the esport moved to PC (controller only, still), where the players then started using programs to "overclock" their DS4 controllers by raising the polling rate.
Just a bit of history to show that Activision (who had purchased MLG, therefore becoming the league owner), essentially, funded the Cronus business to maintain competitive integrity at their live tournaments for 4 years.
No but the time you invest is. I don't think it's wrong to expect that you're on the level when you're competing against anyone in anything. There's gamesmanship and there's flat out cheatingNo video game is that fucking serious.
Do you actually think I'm joking? You're insane.Is this a parody?
Honestly, it's hard to tell sometimes.
Activision is well within its rights to want to sue; it's not just an interpreter for M&KB; it's literally a script injector designed for cheating (and here comes the crowd to defend it). But to make a long story short, the device can easily be seen as a negative impact on their business if gamers feel like their experience is being negatively impacted by the device.
I know personally, I dropped Siege on PS because the chronus crowd was just becoming obnoxious, and I haven't gone back. I also played a few rounds of Apex a couple of years back on Console and again the Chronus crowd was always painfully obvious when spectating.
If they can prove it (which is where this case will most likely fall apart), then they absolutely have an argument for the product impacting their business negatively.
Well, you are kind of saying the dodgy company making cheats for online players should win.Do you actually think I'm joking? You're insane.
Yes, but the business behind it is. Millions in investments, employment for hundreds if not thousands. If these devices are driving away players and in turn affecting the business, then to them it's serious.No video game is that fucking serious.
How many cheaters in this thread holla tooHow many AB employees in this thread holla
Who the f cares that this "negatively affected" Activision? What law has this company broken by providing devices that can allow folks to use KBM.Well, you are kind of saying the dodgy company making cheats for online players should win.
They probably will because the case is flimsy, but I'm 100% on Activision's side here, the device could definitely be interpreted as something hurting their targeted audience, diminishing the value of their product, proving that is a different story.
As others have also said, console PvP is a mess when you get to the more popular games because of the device, and it's also used on PC to inject scripts to enable essentially 0 recoil to weapons and pinpoint accuracy. Not sure why we'd wanna champion that.
Ftfy.Fuck cheaters.
Xbox can for sure see when people use them as its something Ybarra and I talked about often while he was still at XboxAre these Cronus devices on undetectable HW ID's? Can't Sony, MS and Nintendo just block them?
What's bad is places like WalMart, Gamestop and Best Buy would sell these things right next to controllers and was always what my cheating nephews excuse was for using themConcentrating on whether Activision wins or loses this lawsuit is missing the point.
The real purpose is to establish a deterrent - if you sell these devices, you will have a hugely expensive lawsuit ahead of you, which you might win eventually, but after risking everything you have.
This will effectively push these devices underground, limiting their reach and prevalence.
But it is not illegal to impact business negatively with a different business. This is a device people buy because they want to alter the gameplay experience. Activision should find a way to detect and ban when used online. If it is blatantly obvious to you, that means there are obvious patterns that could be detected.Is this a parody?
Honestly, it's hard to tell sometimes.
Activision is well within its rights to want to sue; it's not just an interpreter for M&KB; it's literally a script injector designed for cheating (and here comes the crowd to defend it). But to make a long story short, the device can easily be seen as a negative impact on their business if gamers feel like their experience is being negatively impacted by the device.
I know personally, I dropped Siege on PS because the chronus crowd was just becoming obnoxious, and I haven't gone back. I also played a few rounds of Apex a couple of years back on Console and again the Chronus crowd was always painfully obvious when spectating.
If they can prove it (which is where this case will most likely fall apart), then they absolutely have an argument for the product impacting their business negatively.
There's nothing grey about this. It's straight up cheating.I don't think Activision wins this
Straight up PC cheats I can see why those get shut down
Have talked about this many times but Xbox knew when people were using these things and they decided to not attempt any action
For just increasing aim assist and helping to control recoil that is such a grey area
The matchmaking is so cracked that in the top 1% lobbies every player is min maxing every single tiny little advantage, so no that's not going to happen.I guess It's always way too much to ask people to just be decent human being and not to " get what I can and f#%^ everyone else " ?
Xbox can for sure see when people use them as its something Ybarra and I talked about often while he was still at Xbox
His reply whenever I would ask why not ban those people was they decided at Xbox to let each game studio decide what to do with those people using those devices
It's not about being illegal though, this won't be a case to put people in jail.But it is not illegal to impact business negatively with a different business. This is a device people buy because they want to alter the gameplay experience. Activision should find a way to detect and ban when used online. If it is blatantly obvious to you, that means there are obvious patterns that could be detected.
These things could be used by people in single player mode to make the games more enjoyable for them. For that reason alone, I have a hard time seeing how it does anything illegal.
But it is not illegal to impact business negatively with a different business. This is a device people buy because they want to alter the gameplay experience. Activision should find a way to detect and ban when used online. If it is blatantly obvious to you, that means there are obvious patterns that could be detected.
These things could be used by people in single player mode to make the games more enjoyable for them. For that reason alone, I have a hard time seeing how it does anything illegal.