Any word on 1080p downsampling?
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All PS4 Pro enhanced games (native support and boosted)
- Thread starter Liabe Brave
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No mention of it in the video, but this line is from their text article:
Seems like it does.
It was confirmed in a Last Chance demo analysis I read somewhere, but I don't remember where.
Jakartalado
Member
I'm pretty sure I'll pass for 60U$D but, I heard Dream Drop Distance is currently running at 4K Native and 60 fps (no supersampling for 1080p users, sadly but not really staggering for a 3DS port).
Is this confirmed? I'm not seeing on the list. If it drops to 30U$D or something close I might jump in.
I know the 1.5+2.5 supports 4K native as Square already posted on a handful of previews.
OMG I NEED TO TEST THIS HITMAN IS AMAZING
Is this confirmed? I'm not seeing on the list. If it drops to 30U$D or something close I might jump in.
I know the 1.5+2.5 supports 4K native as Square already posted on a handful of previews.
OMG I NEED TO TEST THIS HITMAN IS AMAZING
2blackcats
Member
Boost mode for PS4 Pro?
This is going to get complicated.
This is going to get complicated.
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Boost mode, Liabe Brave's work just got a whole lot more complicated 
Liabe Brave
Member
All games in the list downsample to 1080p, unless Pro modes are marked with a red x. This is explained in more detail above.
Yes, War Thunder is supposedly working on a patch. And Futuridium EP Deluxe was announced long ago, but the dev has been busy with a multiplatofrm launch of their new game (which is said to support Pro from day one).
Note that even more games may be enhanced, though. Some of the current ones weren't announced ahead of time, support just showed up in a patch. And in addition, there's pretty sizeable lists in the OP of released games that supposedly already have enhancements. But either I've gotten no material to test, or--more rarely--my inital tests didn't turn up anything obvious.
It is not confirmed. Earlier in the thread someone posted a couple of screenshots. At least from those, the game looks 1080p. But I'd be happy to take another look, if anyone has screenshots that are meant to be 4K.
Liabe Brave - Better get that table ready for games that don't work well in Boost Mode. Most likely easier than those that do.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
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I've got a question. Every PS4 game after the PRO release was supported.
Will Persona 5 be supported? It came out in japan before PRO but will come out here after.
Will Persona 5 be supported? It came out in japan before PRO but will come out here after.
Will depend on atlus... but i don't think it will...
Confusatron
Member
Source? Not doubting you, just want to see more about it. That's huge.
Edit: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-ps4-pro-boost-mode-makes-standard-ps4-games-run-more-smoothly
Probably won't, like Yakuza 0.
killatopak
Member
every game is now enhanced when 4.50 releases lol
Super early impressions of Beast Mode look super promising!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqu1ObkxBAs
There's going to be a lot coming out over the next few days, exciting stuff!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqu1ObkxBAs
There's going to be a lot coming out over the next few days, exciting stuff!
giancarlo123x
Banned
"Which games have pro enhancements?"
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TetraGenesis
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"Which games have pro enhancements?"
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Hahahahahaha, incredible.
Aye I'm aware, I was more asking in regards to Nioh specifically, as it doesn't seem to be in the OP.
That being said, is this thread being updated with new games that come out? Or is it a neogaf limitation that posts can't be edited after a while?
"Which games have pro enhancements?"
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Well, not games that already have a stable frame rate.
I'm pretty sure that's not true. Even if you don't include localized games.
Liabe Brave
Member
If you read the OP, you'll see that it includes a changelog. In addition to specifying games added (or removed), you can also assume that existing games have been revised to match the latest info on the dates given.
Though really, you're just guessing it's not true. None of us have the data to say one way or the other. For example, can you name a game that's released since November 10th that doesn't have Pro support? There are some, but as far as I know they're all localized games which are just now being released in the West, which you say don't count. If you know of any others, what are they?
According to the info I've collected, about 120 games have released since the Pro launch. Of these, 16 (almost all the retail releases) definitely have Pro modes. About that many again have been claimed to have support by Sony, but haven't been analyzed. That does leave about 90 games not known either way, which sounds significant. But frankly, I doubt there's anyone in this thread who can say whether the Hasbro Family Fun Pack: Conquest Edition is Pro enhanced.
I strongly suspect you're right that some of these games aren't enhanced on Pro. But I don't think it's proper to say you're "pretty sure" unless you really can break down the numbers.
Liabe Brave
Member
My apologies for the double post, was meant to be an edit.
That's pretty nice! Every devs should make lists.
SirNinja
Member
Boost mode is more than just framerate improvements. Things like load times can be shortened as well. Apparently Destiny (an almost rock-solid 30fps game) has benefited from Boost mode in this regard, esp. when going to social areas.
Loading times in Destiny specially travelling to social areas is hard to measure, since the social areas have a limited number of players, while loading is also looking for a social area with an available space for you or your fireteam. I have times that I join a social area immediately and some times it takes a while.
2blackcats
Member
A good sign that they are at least working on it.
Don Bradman Cricket 17 has PS4 Pro features apparently, not the most popular game but worth adding to the list. Can't nail down the exact improvements yet as I don't want to spend £45-£55 on the game, but there's reports of improved frame rate and sharper visuals on forums/reviews.
This thread is brilliant by the way.
This thread is brilliant by the way.
Liabe Brave
Member
Thanks for the info! I did a bit of digging, and did seem to locate evidence of improved framerate (though no clear indications of better imagery). I've added the game.
I've also added Nioh since it's releasing tomorrow, and the Dream Drop Distance portion of Kingdom Hearts II.8, which I'd previously neglected.
I'm currently in the process of putting together data on the titles affected by the PS4 Pro Boost mode that's in beta right now. I won't be putting this up until the feature comes out of beta--this thread is for released improvements--but this is a very large amount of new work, so I'm trying to get a head start.
Because it's so much ground to cover, I can already guarantee that I won't be able to personally vet every single entry. I do already rely on external sources, but I'd wager even they will be swamped by the scores if not hundreds of games possibly affected. This means that anything I write up for Boost titles will be much more tentative and subject to change. So let me ask everyone, would you rather:
1. Include all Boost-enhanced titles in the same list as other games. This has the advantage of unified search. But--though they would of course be clearly marked as Boost-enhanced rather than patch-enhanced--there's opportunity for confusion.
2. Make the Boost-enhanced titles a separate list. This has the advantage of making it clear that they're different. But it would mean you'd have to look for specific games in two different lists.
My personal preference would be the first option, as I think it's more generally usable. But I'm definitely willing to hear a preference for the second option, if that's the consensus.
Thanks so much for your input. Please keep posting impressions, screenshots, video, and links as you find them. I can't do nearly as much without help from GAF at large.
I think a separate list would be more effective. It helps drive home the fact that Boost mode needs to be activated, and once people start to understand better that it only affects pre-Pro games it will be easier to know which list to look in.
Edit: Also, thanks again for all of this, your work pulling all of this disparate information together has resulted in one of the most useful threads in GAF history.
GET2DAACHOPPAAAA
Member
Is there a list of games that support supersampling? And what game should I get that "supersamples" the best?
Any game on the list with a resolution higher than 1920x1080 without a red X supersamples automatically on 1080p displays.
Ratchet & Clank is one of the better examples.
GET2DAACHOPPAAAA
Member
Awesome, thanks. I jut got a pro but only have a 1080p screen.
2blackcats
Member
I vote for a separate list too.
For one thing once the initial work is out of the way, there should be almost no additions to the list.
The enhanced list will be constantly expanding.
For one thing once the initial work is out of the way, there should be almost no additions to the list.
The enhanced list will be constantly expanding.
Andrefpvs
Member
This is a good point.
I think a second list too as there will likely be a large amount of games effected by boost mode and the other enhanced games will get lost in the mix. There will also be an increase in the amount of enhanced games coming out in the coming months so it could turn into a huge list itself.
I'm not sure if a separate boost list is required...there wasnt one for XB1S enhancements when that came out. It will also become impossible to manage, as you imply.
The original list was great as it allowed you to see the diff for new games, which is as stark as XB1 vs. OG ps4 in some cases.
LiquidSolid
Member
Yeah, personally I'd mention Boost Mode in the FAQ or Statistics section, maybe noting the games that are most dramatically improved (like Just Cause 3 and AC Unity) and the ones that are broken by it (like SOMA). But it seems like an impossible task to list and detail the differences it brings to the hundreds of non-Pro PS4 games.
If I had to pick one though, I'd go with a separate list. My problem with mixing them into the Pro list is that it'd make it more difficult to just check out the Pro supported games.
Miggytronz
Member
i dont know if its me but Transformers Devastation looks incredibly sharp now.
Played it again 2 weeks ago and what the opposite effect for me lol. Lots of jaggy edges. Obviously nothing has changed, just my opinion of its look. Games like this and DBZ: Xenoverse 2 would benefit greatly from downsampling. Sadly that will never happen
Liabe Brave
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Lifting a mountain is impossible. Keeping a long list is just a matter of effort.
That said, I definitely won't be able to put as much time into checking each Boost mode enhancement as into the normal patch enhancements. And I clearly hear the majority opinion that this means the lists should be separate. So that's what I'll do when the time comes.
As usual, thanks to contributors!
ScaryShark
Banned
Is Uncharted 4 the best HDR game? I just mounted my OLED and want to kick it off with the best.
Equanimity
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Ratchet and Clank is the best HDR game according to DF.