Fake
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LL had linear hud map, just like God of War 2018. Maybe a sandbox wolrd.
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All The Last of Us 2 leaks/spoilers in here and nowhere else.
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Jooxed
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For example lol
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BluRayHiDef
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Yes, very good. Very good.
Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
It depends on a lot how well its executed , how well gameplay is The leaker has done this intentionally to get worst reception on the Internet, you liturally do this some best games tv shows movies
. So many things unknown right now all that's been released are videos not even 15 minutes worth, and write up., that's missing hell of lot for game suppose to be 30 hours long.
At the of day I trust naughty dog they've not let's us down before, I do believe everything will make sense in the end, and doubt they will send 100 million IP to the death.
LaughingStock
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It'll still sell millions of copies. And i still might play it.
RokkanStoned
Member
Yeah, people thinking that it'll make a big bulk in the sales are obviously a bit delusional, though I'd never say never. The general audience will generally not get this information, and even if they do, it's likely to make them aware of the product and more curious, so it can often boost sales. It's also why companies trying to be uncontroversial is just silly and makes you wonder whether they should be more bold for exposure.
It's nice knowing, so I don't feel like I'm missing out delaying purchasing the game until PS5 comes or it reaches a more reasonable price. More so, giving the people an understanding of what they're going into, giving them a more informed choice in purchase is always nice.
Lol, dude, this just sounds like fanaticism or blind following. Naughty Dog has done plenty of blunders. Uncharted in general is not any pinnacle writing or gameplay, though it is fun, but with many disappointing titles. Uncharted is a pretty apt comparison, as TLoU in many ways is just using that third person action-adventure shell. Outside of that there's Crash Bandicoot: Warped as well. Just because they made one really good story-based game - TLoU - doesn't mean you need to trust them. People trusting companies are always skating on thin eyes. Even good bands, have their shit follow-up albums. There's no pattern that can be surmised.
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Azurro
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I think the people saying it's not supposed to be realistic are missing the point. It absolutely is supposed to be realistic, just with a couple of twists, like the cordiceps spore jumping to humans.
So this enormous "IT'S MA'AM!" lady/ladyboy that looks like she lifts every day and injects steroids is complete nonsense. The Asian boy/girl is also ridiculous, how the hell do trans people exist in a world where all the hormones they need for their therapy are gone? Which freaking gym do they go to and how are they able to eat all the protein they need to be that big?
The game went from a character driven drama in a zombie apocalypse to an lgbt power fantasy with some edgy violent scenes that thinks it's smarter than it is.
TLOU2: Trans/Hulk lady hunts down the lesbian couple and kills the evil white man. The end.
So this enormous "IT'S MA'AM!" lady/ladyboy that looks like she lifts every day and injects steroids is complete nonsense. The Asian boy/girl is also ridiculous, how the hell do trans people exist in a world where all the hormones they need for their therapy are gone? Which freaking gym do they go to and how are they able to eat all the protein they need to be that big?
The game went from a character driven drama in a zombie apocalypse to an lgbt power fantasy with some edgy violent scenes that thinks it's smarter than it is.
TLOU2: Trans/Hulk lady hunts down the lesbian couple and kills the evil white man. The end.
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Screamer-RSA
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I guarantee you she was raped by an evil white man.
Fake
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Abbey
RokkanStoned
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How is that ridiculous? With all people saying asian men look like boys in reaction to KPOP, I don't see how a MtF or FtM asian wouldn't exist. I mean, trans people existed before they had hormone therapy.
The fact that Abby had the time to exercise like an athlete is a bit more dubious, though that can be explained by raiding places where the PEDs were held, as well as a crazy work-out routine. That scenario is ridiculous, though revenge stories tend to focus on shit like that at times, though that makes them a bit less realistic and more comic-y.
With Abby's seeming ties to the Fireflies, it'd make sense that she'd have a bit better access to medical knowledge and equipment. So that can be said. Still don't see the need to make her beefy though, as better revenge stories focus on wit and not brawn.
Yu Furealdo
Member
I like the leaks as well as how they're triggering people.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I don't think it was confirmed that any characters are trans.
The first game was all about Ellie and Joel coming together.
The Walking Dead characters are filled with pandering "woke" characters, but it never takes away from the actual narrative of the story.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If you guys wanna see a trainwreck, check out ND's twitter comments. That 5,000+ comment post they did is literally like 97% ripping the story and ND apart. Fan down as many pages as you want and you'll see maybe 5 people defending ND, and one of them is Shinobi602 apologizing with a heart icon.
If you guys want to see the ultimate memes, forget about the Xbox and PS5 Controller threads here. That's ND tweet is the place to be.
If you guys want to see the ultimate memes, forget about the Xbox and PS5 Controller threads here. That's ND tweet is the place to be.
Maybe she wanted child support?
Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
Ultimate memes the only funny memes are dark humor memmes any others suck.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Is there any straight character in this?
I don't want to be rude but in apocalyptic world, women would be sex and work slaves... most likely aside from lucky few. Men are brutal and nobody would be even thinking about showing as gay.
I never buy these cult and men vs men plots. Just a s Walking Dead... Why can't post apocalyptic game/show be just about that
And about the muscles - I think that if You would have to hunt and scavenge all the time, You would be quite strong. Not that weird
I don't want to be rude but in apocalyptic world, women would be sex and work slaves... most likely aside from lucky few. Men are brutal and nobody would be even thinking about showing as gay.
I never buy these cult and men vs men plots. Just a s Walking Dead... Why can't post apocalyptic game/show be just about that
And about the muscles - I think that if You would have to hunt and scavenge all the time, You would be quite strong. Not that weird
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JLMC469
Banned
TWD has been crap for years.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Great VA, but the writing and “acting” here made me roll my eyes.
”Prove it”? Seriously?
”You think it’s easy?” Oh yeah, both have gone through hell and back and barely survived, but yeah, this is the right moment to play sorrow olympics.
See, this is why I can’t enjoy so many games that want to be movies (and so many modern movies, too). This shit is so cheap, so cliché.
Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
Have you watched the whisper stuff it's been amazing sine rick left. Thought it would get even worse but got so much better.
JLMC469
Banned
Stopped around season 5 (I think). It got repetitive and boring.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The show has improved within the past two seasons. The show is losing it's main actors, but it's still able to deliver good episodes.
Even with all these "woke" characters, they're still able to deliver good episodes without letting politics get in the way.
Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
I really suggest you watch it you've missed out some of the best bits yeah has ups downs some episodes are hard get through but overall still really good TV show.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
What you do in a gym is practice the sort of stuff survivalists actually need to do, asking how someone gets buff in a zombie apocalypse is kinda like... what? There should be mostly two types of people in such an apocalypse, expert survivalists who have bulked up from how well they've handled it and thin, malnourished people who have been good at things like hiding and stealth.
Also do people actually believe there are trans characters and not just one but multiple? Like, if that's true I'd be calling BS on the game, too but I really doubt these people are trans, they just don't look conventionally attractive which... uh... shouldn't that fit your required realism in an apocalyptic environment?
Also LOL @ everyone wanted to play as Joel. Count me as among those who were least surprised this game was you playing as Ellie after how the first ended, not to mention they already let you play as her for a while in the first which totally felt like a primer for what was to come. The mid game switch this one is going to do is surprising but I'm interested, don't understand peoples gut reactions to be that it will be bad no matter what. Even Call of Duty campaigns have killed your main protag and made you play as another before and they're like Michael Bay films turned into video games, I can't fathom how a game like Last of Us doing this is beyond some people.
Also do people actually believe there are trans characters and not just one but multiple? Like, if that's true I'd be calling BS on the game, too but I really doubt these people are trans, they just don't look conventionally attractive which... uh... shouldn't that fit your required realism in an apocalyptic environment?
Also LOL @ everyone wanted to play as Joel. Count me as among those who were least surprised this game was you playing as Ellie after how the first ended, not to mention they already let you play as her for a while in the first which totally felt like a primer for what was to come. The mid game switch this one is going to do is surprising but I'm interested, don't understand peoples gut reactions to be that it will be bad no matter what. Even Call of Duty campaigns have killed your main protag and made you play as another before and they're like Michael Bay films turned into video games, I can't fathom how a game like Last of Us doing this is beyond some people.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Well, here's my summary of this whole leak thing
- I like the plot twist with Abby
- The plot twist acceptance really comes down to if you like twists and how much you like Joel and Ellie. If Joel and Ellie kick ass and win Part II, most people would probably be happy going by the reactions
- Don't really care Abby is butchy. Maybe she just works out a lot
- Picking her as the antagonist is kind of weird since media usually has the arch enemy being obvious, but I guess that's part of the twist. In real life with no cops or laws, and someone goes on a murder spree, I'm pretty sure friends of the dead will come after you too
- Trying to make a game that is zombies, survival, drama and SJW is an odd blend
- Unless there is good reason, I don't see why a love triangle between two lesbians and a Chinese guy needs to be in this game. You don't get this in Call of Duty or any other zombie game. Nothing is stopping Nathan Drake or Marcus Fenix from having romps with other dudes during cut scenes. I'm sure a writer can figure out making it into a cut scene, but why jam it in?
- As someone said above, the game is supposed to be realistic (yeah I know it has fungasheads), but having a teenage girl literally be Rambo isn't exactly believable. Is it believable someone like Joel or Captain Price can mow down 500 soldiers? Not really too. But in a certain game setting, there's going to be some shit you got to accept as part of the setting. I guess TLoU has the benchmark being teenage girls. You never know 8 year olds with a slingshot can be written in too as just as effective
- I like the plot twist with Abby
- The plot twist acceptance really comes down to if you like twists and how much you like Joel and Ellie. If Joel and Ellie kick ass and win Part II, most people would probably be happy going by the reactions
- Don't really care Abby is butchy. Maybe she just works out a lot
- Picking her as the antagonist is kind of weird since media usually has the arch enemy being obvious, but I guess that's part of the twist. In real life with no cops or laws, and someone goes on a murder spree, I'm pretty sure friends of the dead will come after you too
- Trying to make a game that is zombies, survival, drama and SJW is an odd blend
- Unless there is good reason, I don't see why a love triangle between two lesbians and a Chinese guy needs to be in this game. You don't get this in Call of Duty or any other zombie game. Nothing is stopping Nathan Drake or Marcus Fenix from having romps with other dudes during cut scenes. I'm sure a writer can figure out making it into a cut scene, but why jam it in?
- As someone said above, the game is supposed to be realistic (yeah I know it has fungasheads), but having a teenage girl literally be Rambo isn't exactly believable. Is it believable someone like Joel or Captain Price can mow down 500 soldiers? Not really too. But in a certain game setting, there's going to be some shit you got to accept as part of the setting. I guess TLoU has the benchmark being teenage girls. You never know 8 year olds with a slingshot can be written in too as just as effective
Rock And Roll
Member
I agree with you so much on the last part and have been saying this for years. The writing just does not stand up to any good movie, yet it gets praised by games media for its "movie-like script". It sets the bar so low and then future games/scripts only have to hit that mark. Games are always going to be mediocre until people start calling this shit out.
Think about it, when Hollywood started the movies were dismissed as being inferior to books. Hemingway and F Scott felt like sellouts for writing for Hollywood. As the industry grew the scripts grew stronger and stronger because Hollywood had to prove their movies could be just as good as books. Videogames have yet to prove they can be as good as movies, yet gamers will pretend otherwise.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Despite the controversial story, this game will sell like hookers in Vegas.
Silent Duck
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Abby (Concept)
Abby (Final)
Abby (Final)
The Mad Draklor
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Dr Bass
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Remember how Last of Us 1 was constantly described as being the gaming industry's "Citizen Kane moment"? A completely ridiculous assertion, and I don't think the people that used that phrase even understood what it truly meant or why Citizen Kane was as influential as it was. So many people involved in video games have an inferiority complex when it comes to movies, we should really be focused on what games do best themselves. It's not a competition. Especially when video game writing is that bad.
Javthusiast
Banned
All these story beats sound like shit.
But I will still play the game to see if it maybe works in context. And I loved the gameplay of the first, so this should be even better. And let's be honest, first one storywise was absolutely nothing special. It was just executed well. So if by the end the gameplay is all I will take away as a positive from the sequel, then it will be good enough.
Will I buy it day one? Hard to say. If I do it then I will sell it immediately after beating to get more than half of money spend back. And if it turns out really good somehow and I plan to replay it, then I will keep it.
But I will still play the game to see if it maybe works in context. And I loved the gameplay of the first, so this should be even better. And let's be honest, first one storywise was absolutely nothing special. It was just executed well. So if by the end the gameplay is all I will take away as a positive from the sequel, then it will be good enough.
Will I buy it day one? Hard to say. If I do it then I will sell it immediately after beating to get more than half of money spend back. And if it turns out really good somehow and I plan to replay it, then I will keep it.
Hosam6xavi
Banned
Our hero
Sorrow Olympics. I've never heard that term before, I'm gonna use that.
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Personally, I really wanted to play as adult Ellie and have this be her story like the last game was Joel's story, while also connecting to and expanding on the grander plot about how her mysterious immunity and how humanity is going to deal with this virus going forward and rebuild society.
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I'm still skeeved-out by Dina's self righteous "we have a family". No you don't, you have the kid of the guy you cheated-on with each other, whom you then got killed when he was helping you rescue Tommy (for whatever reason). Poor fucking bastard. Really sits wrong with me.
Then after all of the game it's zero understanding of what Joel meant to Ellie, or the guilt Ellie feels towards Tommy. "What I'm just supposed to sit here?" it's not about you, you selfish bitch!
Oh... who am I kidding, look at the type of personalities the writer is pandering to. These are the people who pitch a bitch fit because they wanna be represented in everything. These are the character's stories, not yours. Stop being so self-obsessed and attention seeking.
Then after all of the game it's zero understanding of what Joel meant to Ellie, or the guilt Ellie feels towards Tommy. "What I'm just supposed to sit here?" it's not about you, you selfish bitch!
Oh... who am I kidding, look at the type of personalities the writer is pandering to. These are the people who pitch a bitch fit because they wanna be represented in everything. These are the character's stories, not yours. Stop being so self-obsessed and attention seeking.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Not to mention, Ellie was depicted as humanity's last hope in the 1st game. So for her to pull a Season 8 Daenerys is offputting.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
Banned
have they ever made you play as the terrorist that killed your protagonist and made you go after the rest of your squad?
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Not sure, there's a lot of games, that's oddly specific, though. They've had you take part in terrorist massacres before, like "No Russian" so I'm not sure why what you propose would be off limits to them. Besides that my point was that even shallow games like CoD will have shocking, subversive twists and kill off your main characters.
TheUsual
Gold Member
My only guess would be that the game will explain that since the time of the 1st game's ending and when 2 starts is that there are confirmed cases of many people who are immune.
Is it satisfactory? Not at all.
EDIT: That's the religious cult, right? Some of the immune people? So they stay hidden all this time then show up?
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Bar81
Member
Yup. The first game lost me when a girl who dripping wet is 90 lbs is taking out dozens upon dozens of dudes that are 180+ lbs.
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siekro1983
Banned
"Complex"
What a terrible follow up to TLoU. A cycle of revenge really has nothing to do with the beats of the original. What Joel did was never out of revenge, but out of love. The revenge would be far more relevant if it started from Abby's perspective. Why the hell would you start it from Ellie? It just baffles my mind and just seem like it's just going for shock.
Only thing I can think of is them trying to use it as some weird contrast, but that falls back on the same problem, that it feels utterly disconnected from the first game. Giving Ellie a revenge story just feels like completely wasting the character.
The game is all about showing how strong and bad ass females can be. we'll representing the LGBT community.
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The Mad Draklor
Member
Might as well rename the game to The MA'AM of Us.
Jon Neu
Banned
Not only you're wrong, but also if it was a realistic scenario, Abby would be a thin malnourished girl with dozens of kids from all the rape she would have endured through the years.
Females are not prepared to survive by themselves in a world without rules. They need the stronger males to protect them from other males.
Only in a higher society with rules a girl can have the luxuries of safety, time, nutrition, information, equipment and drugs that you need to transform the body of a female into that thing.
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desertdroog
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Has the leaks mentioned any special talents Ellie has? Can she still run through a pack of enemies and not be seen/heard/targeted/attacked? That was the neatest trick she pulled off in the first game.