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[BluRayHiDef]

Yup, i did. And mine is from the beginning of the trailer

Doh!

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I didn't say justify, I sayed it won't matter. Because at the end of day 2 of protagonists of the game suffer. Theres probably a trama in between...maybe Ellie is as much as trouple as Joel(which is hilarious you painting Joel as master mind evil villain). But again, expecting a Joel or Ellie fan to have sentiments for someone that just appeared in this game out of nowhere? Hard to buy.
Absurd is wasting my time explaining the reason for people to be mad as if the leak is not reason enough lol.
But if your narrative is just that everyone should be friendly, justice giving in a zombie apocalipse game then maybe you're playing the wrong game. You're the one watching too much Marvel movies and trying to apply this logic here lol. I'm even surprised because you sound kinda mad with what I said in a leak thread, where the discussion is basically that.
Myself? I'm coom. Just expecting to see exactly what this Abby is and if Ellie really dies at the end.

Most protagonists in any game are going to suffer at some point... otherwise there isn't conflict.

I didn't paint Joel as a master mind evil villain, I said some of his actions in the first game were villainous.

How did people become fans of Joel and Ellie? Was it by playing as them in the first game and spending hours with them? You know, things they haven't done yet with this new character?

Where is my argument that everyone should be friendly and "justice giving" in a zombie apocalypse game?

We don't need "the full story" to have grasp of structure or overarching plot. So why the fuck are you harping up in defense like that? Sure, we don't know EVERYTHING, but if you need to know everything to make sure that something's not awful, then I am baffled on how you walk around on this world. Are you one of those going: "It's just the alpha", "It's just the beta", "it's just the first patch", etc?
In numerous posts I've pointed out that TLoU wasn't amazing in plot either, but it made up for it with the interpersonal relations and dialogue, thus that TLoU2 might be better than its plot. However, that we don't have much evidence and firm information about the plot and structure, just seems like an utterly deflective criticism. You might say we don't have all the scenes, which is fair criticism on the quality of the game, but that is irrelevant regarding the overarching plot. Especially regarding the structure, we have very specific information. Thou protest too much, methinks.

Yes you do.

Because you read a short summary and saw 5 2 minute videos and decided you know how well structured a plot is.

You know exceptionally less than everything, it's a 30 hour game.

You have a few key scenes spoiled, not the actual entire plot, people don't even know how it actually ends yet, lol. You're clearly jumping to conclusions and don't understand how to actually judge plot structure (you need the entire plot).

 

[infinitys_7th]

Game looks gorgeous. Story reads like some WB nonsense. I’ll still play it though as I’m a graphics whore.

Ding ding ding!

It's a game that revolves around a bunch of people cucking each other and sexuality melodrama and bad parental relationships over the top of a zombie apocalypse. You need a Buffy style and level of writing to make that work, but TLOU established itself as grounded and gritty.

I was expecting something to be done with Ellie's sexuality (like her being pressured by the community to get pregnant to start producing immune humans) but that would have fit with the first game - sacrifice for the greater good or fulfill personal desires. This teenage bisexual love triangle shit is about as dimwitted as it comes when the world is over.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

Maybe this is a bit off topic, but how badly do you think Ellie and the other characters smell while they're journeying, considering that they go days without bathing?

 

[DForce]

How so?

Here's why the 4chan rumors from that homophobic cult are fake.

Spoiler: spoiler

- The mysterious woman is not Ellie's mom, it's a character by the name of Abby
- Dina doesn't die
- It doesn't mention Joel dying by the mysterious woman
- The back story of showing Ellie's mom giving birth is fake.

 

[Saber]

Most protagonists in any game are going to suffer at some point... otherwise there isn't conflict.

I didn't paint Joel as a master mind evil villain, I said some of his actions in the first game were villainous.

You sound as if haha

It's a game where Joel murders unarmed surgeons trying to save the entire world because he can't face losing his new surrogate daughter the way he lost the last.

Why did you even care to cited that part? Everyone kills everyone in this game, this is not Joel exclusive lol
Pretty sure even Abby killed a bunch of innocent people just to get to Joel, assuming they're in her way(his brother might be an example).

How did people become fans of Joel and Ellie? Was it by playing as them in the first game and spending hours with them? You know, things they haven't done yet with this new character?

Oh please, don't start playing smartass here.

Where is my argument that everyone should be friendly and "justice giving" in a zombie apocalypse game?

Here:

The actions Joel takes at the end of TLOU were villainous, not heroic.

Question for you: why did you expected Joel to be a hero?

 

[Guilty_AI]

Maybe this is a bit off topic, but how badly do you think Ellie and the other characters smell while they're journeying, considering that they go days without bathing?

And probably shitting in the woods without cleaning properly

 

[Fake]

Spoiler: spoiler

Where does it say that there's two fights that take place in this game and the first is just a cinematic?

Spoiler

The leaker mention a 'boss fight', than later confirmed the fight between Ellie and Abbey (with Nadi helps) are much in the early game, not the ending (you can see the list of dev episodes). Unless some epifania happen to Ellie, will still be a second battle in place (between Ellie and Abbey without Nadi) as she will hunt down Abbey for avenge Joel.

Just feel details.

Spoiler

While Ellie is fightning Abbey, there is no sight of Ellie using Joel jacket.
In the Ellie cutscene when she decide to abandon Nadi, she is wearing the jacket, Nadi mention both 'Jessi' and 'Joel' die.
At the picture of Ellie seeing Joel tomb, speculation about if Ellie really escape from that 'Joel death' part, so Joel tomb actually not having 'Joel' body, but looks like that fight between Abbey and Ellie will happen in that close part. Thats explain 'why' Nadi appears to assist Ellie as Nadi, Joel, Tommy and Jesse search for the cult. So, the Abbey vs Ellie will close that capter with the consequence of both Joel and Jesse dying.
Someone in the other place mention 'Abbey invade home', with imply Abbey group will assault the Ellie camp.
Nadi don't care about revenge, as if I remember she already lost loved one long ago.
If Abbey really looking for remaining Firefly, thats explain 'why' Joel tried to backfire the attack as he still not want Ellie to know the true.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

And probably shitting in the woods without cleaning properly

Well, there are plenty of leaves and a river or two in the woods. So, they should be fine in that department.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Well, there are plenty of leaves and a river or two in the woods. So, they should be fine in that department.

Nah, imagine the sort of fungus they could catch

 

[Explosive Zombie]

You sound as if haha



Why did you even care to cited that part? Everyone kills everyone in this game, this is not Joel exclusive lol
Pretty sure even Abby killed a bunch of innocent people just to get to Joel, assuming they're in her way(his brother might be an example).



Oh please, don't start playing smartass here.



Here:



Question for you: why did you expected Joel to be a hero?

Pointing out Joel didn't take heroic actions isn't me saying he should be heroic. I was praising the game's multi-faceted approach to characters because I question if people truly value that approach when they say "MUH HECKIN' JOELERINO CAN'T GET HEAD BASHEDERINO!" It screams to me of children who don't understand adult drama.

 

[B-universe]

The amount of leaps in logic and assumptions people are making here is baffling. The leaks do not give you the full story or the full context for the events. Everything you guys are saying is premature assumptions based on out of context scenes. Like one of you is even talking about the STRUCTURE of the plot? Based on what a short summary of a 30 hour game? Like this shit is fucking madness. Get a clue.

The irony is neither do you.

Sure, you can give them the benefit of the doubt, based off on past titles, trailers, previews, but your assessment that hours of in-between content will manage to coalesce the leaked beats into one cohesive satisfying story arc is just as arbitrary an exercise in wishful thinking as the opposite reaction of asserting no amount of weaving will ever manage to salvage those exact same beats.

You are falling prey to thee exact same problem you're trying to point out.

What matters most is the execution, about which neither you nor anyone else would have much to say at this point.

As for structure, most mainstream fiction follows a strict three-act format or some other well-established device. I'd think it wouldn't be terribly difficult for someone with a background in storytelling to go though that list and identify the Inciting Incident, door of no return, mid point, etc.

 

[Saber]

Pointing out Joel didn't take heroic actions isn't me saying he should be heroic. I was praising the game's multi-faceted approach to characters because I question if people truly value that approach when they say "MUH HECKIN' JOELERINO CAN'T GET HEAD BASHEDERINO!" It screams to me of children who don't understand adult drama.

The only silly here is you, making a fuss and wasting people time in a leak thread discussion.
If you are mad why even enter this thread? Take a time off, no need to bring your provocations here.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

The irony is neither do you.

Sure, you can give them the benefit of the doubt, based off on past titles, trailers, previews, but your assessment that hours of in-between content will manage to coalesce the leaked beats into one cohesive satisfying story arc is just as arbitrary an exercise in wishful thinking as the opposite reaction of asserting no amount of weaving will ever manage to salvage those exact same beats.

You are falling prey to thee exact same problem you're trying to point out.

What matters most is the execution, about which neither you nor anyone else would have much to say at this point.

As for structure, most mainstream fiction follows a strict three-act format or some other well-established device. I'd think it wouldn't be terribly difficult for someone with a background in storytelling to go though that list and identify the Inciting Incident, door of no return, mid point, etc.

Oh man, that's so ironic how I also don't know the plot of a game I've reserved my judgment on?

Must be why I feel like we should WAIT AND SEE.

How so? Did I call the game great? Did I pre-order it?

My whole point is people don't know the execution, like WTF are you arguing with here?

Ah yes, you end a post about how the execution is most important by telling me people can fill in the blanks on what's missing based on their knowledge of common ways of telling stories to come to a conclusion about it, totally not self-contradictory.

 

[Darrec]

Lmao that's his job as a Journalist. You are comparing apples to rocks. He is not bound to an NDA agreement to any project. Furthermore, this man dose not go on spoiling video game's plots for the masses. He is a game industry journalist. I don't like him either but you fail at this comparison.

That's like saying stealing is fine if it's just a little.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

The only silly here is you, making a fuss and wasting people time in a leak thread discussion.
If you are mad why even enter this thread? Take a time off, no need to bring your provocations here.

It's better to just cede the argument than make things personal, there's no reason to assume motives or emotions (or project them onto) for me.

That's like saying stealing is fine if it's just a little.

Yeah, we have different levels of punishment for different levels of theft, actually.

 

[Darrec]

Yeah, we have different levels of punishment for different levels of theft, actually.

And morally it's either wrong or it isn't, no in-between.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

And morally it's either wrong or it isn't, no in-between.

Ah yes, binary morality is what I totally believe in, thanks for making it clear we're on the same wave length as each other.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

That's like saying stealing is fine if it's just a little.

Funny because here in UK the police do nothing unless you steal anything more than 10 pounds most shops account for theft so in reality petty theft is victimless crime.

 

[Sakura Doritos]

This game seems to be a real piece of shit. The story is so on the nose and so out of control they should just toss it on PS+ and walk away from it. It sounds like every walk of life could find a vector to hate it on.

Way to go... you just destroyed the franchise that put everyone on the edge of their seat. Now we're just leaning back with a belly ache.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

"MUH HECKIN' JOELERINO CAN'T GET HEAD BASHEDERINO!" It screams to me of children who don't understand adult drama.

lol this old argument again?

feels like a xerox of the Last Jedi argument. didn't like the movie? well YOU JUST WANTED LUKE TO BE A SUPER GOD YOU MANBABY CHILD!

i mean god forbid people get attached to characters they spend dozens of hours with. only a child would want to continue a story with the same protagonist (?)

there more people lean on these "you are a child!" arguments the more it makes them sound like, well, a child. a child gets mad that you don't like the same movie as them. an adult should be able to say "Ok, fine, i respect your opinion"

it is just funny seeing the same old arguments. "too smart for you" ah yes subversive artists they outsmarted the idiot consumers again, what true genuises. could have made something fun but instead made something Fun But Educational.

to me the main selling point of these style of "subversive" takes is in placating the ego of the pseudo intellectual. there is just as much fan servicing, it's just for fans of this postmodern deconstructionism (which is over half a century old at this point). rather than fan service aimed at "plebs" they aim them at the self styled culture gatekeepers who are professionally paid to review games (and call other people who don't like them children).

 

[B-universe]

Oh man, that's so ironic how I also don't know the plot of a game I've reserved my judgment on?

Must be why I feel like we should WAIT AND SEE.

How so? Did I call the game great? Did I pre-order it?

My whole point is people don't know the execution, like WTF are you arguing with here?

Ah yes, you end a post about how the execution is most important by telling me people can fill in the blanks on what's missing based on their knowledge of common ways of telling stories to come to a conclusion about it, totally not self-contradictory.

Just breathe, Explosive Zombie.

To me, your posts imply the game WILL succeed. You only seem to be directing your existential angst at people criticising the game, not the ones praising it based off ***on the exact same footage***.

At this point, the claim the game will succeed storytelling-wise is on the same footing as the counter-claim it will not .

 

[Fake]

How much people will use this spoiler as a console war ammunition?

 

[Darrec]

Funny because here in UK the police do nothing unless you steal anything more than 10 pounds most shops account for theft so in reality petty theft is victimless crime.

So i can basically stroll down the street and steal 10 pounds from each shop and get away with it? What a bananas place to live.

 

[DForce]

Spoiler

The leaker mention a 'boss fight', than later confirmed the fight between Ellie and Abbey (with Nadi helps) are much in the early game, not the ending (you can see the list of dev episodes). Unless some epifania happen to Ellie, will still be a second battle in place (between Ellie and Abbey without Nadi) as she will hunt down Abbey for avenge Joel.

Spoiler: spoiler

That's kinda strange

Abby Day 1:
This is her back story with flashback and her dad.

Abby Day 2:
Medicine and Amputation. This sounds like the the Paris Games Week trailer where the Asian woman has her wings clipped.

Due to having her wings clipped, she would need to have her arm amputated. During this trailer, Lev didn't want to cut her down, but the Asian woman told her to.

Abby Day 3:
Abby-Ellie-Fight takes places during day 3. This couldn't happen earlier in the game because Lev is with Abby.

End
The screenshot shows Lev with a full head of hair and Ellie is on her way to find Abby. Maybe it's a cliffhanger?

I would need to see this boss fight that this dev is talking about. It could happen in Santa Barbara.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

lol this old argument again?

feels like a xerox of the Last Jedi argument. didn't like the movie? well YOU JUST WANTED LUKE TO BE A SUPER GOD YOU MANBABY CHILD!

there more people lean on these "you are a child!" arguments the more it makes them sound like, well, a child. a child gets mad that you don't like the same movie as them. an adult should be able to say "Ok, fine, i respect your opinion"

it is just funny seeing the same old arguments. "too smart for you" ah yes subversive artists they outsmarted the idiot consumers again, what true genuises.

to me the main selling point of these style of "subersive" takes is in placating the ego of the pseudo intellectual. rather than fan service aimed at "plebs" they aim them at the self styled culture gatekeepers who are professionally paid to review games (and call other people who don't like them children).

A lot of people did want Luke to be a "super God", I saw arguments about how force projecting was lame and he should have shown up and been tossing the AT-AT walkers around and shit.

Why would I respect someone's opinion on a piece of media they haven't even experienced?

It doesn't take a subversive artist genius to be smarter than someone who just wants an invincible protag.

Again, not liking a piece of media you didn't experience is the problem. Imagine IGN releasing a negative review based on these leaks? Because people have shit on them before for reviewing games they didn't beat or play but suddenly you guys need to have your viewpoints on something you didn't play respected?

Just breathe, Explosive Zombie.

To me, your posts imply the game WILL succeed. You only seem to be directing your existential angst at people criticising the game, not the ones praising it based off ***on the exact same footage***.

At this point, the claim the game will succeed storytelling-wise is on the same footing as the counter-claim it will not .

Who's praising it right now based on the footage? My argument is against people jumping to conclusions about the game based on the leaked footage. Who is jumping to the conclusion it's a masterpiece or some shit that I should be arguing with?

I never said it wasn't on the same foot, you continue to argue against arguments I'm not making.

 

[Fake]

Spoiler: spoiler

I would need to see this boss fight that this dev is talking about. It could happen in Santa Barbara.

Thats why spoilers mean no shit without context. Thats what can happen:

Spoiler

Abbey fight Ellie. Abbey kill Ellie.
Abbey fight Ellie. Ellie kill Abbey.
Abbey fight Ellie, but none die. Abbey tell why kill Joel, explain the true and Ellie accept the true and go back.
Abbey not fight Ellie, Ellie will hunt down the part 3 entire time sugest the Part III will be the final showdown.

 

[Kamina]

Saw this on reset. Pretty much give the entire plot in more detail. Don’t know how accurate it is.

This cant be real

 

[Halo is Back]

That's like saying stealing is fine if it's just a little.

And what exactly is he "stealing"? Please tell me which game he personally spoiled for millions of gamers. He is a journalists. Do you actually know what a journalist dose?

 

[MadAnon]

It's a zombie apocalypse but nothing stops those gainz and roid supply.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

It's a zombie apocalypse but nothing stops those gainz and roid supply.

Wouldn't a zombie apocalypse be exactly the world you wanted to get buff in, though?

 

[Yoda]

sUbveRt eXpEctAtiOnS

Turning the protagonist into the villain sounds like some GoT Dany shit. Hope it's false but it lines up with the clips I've seen so far.

 

[Fake]

 

[JoyFreak]

Most of them say media is too big and won't play for me.

I think it's cause you need to sign up to telegram and join the channel.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I think it's cause you need to sign up to telegram and join the channel.

ugh... I kinda would rather not, what I would like to know is why some vids have sound and are in English and some have no sound or are in another language or have no sound and even the subtitles are in another language. Is this all from one source? Is it all from the same stage of development? It feels like the answers to both are no.

 

[JoyFreak]

ugh... I kinda would rather not, what I would like to know is why some vids have sound and are in English and some have no sound or are in another language or have no sound and even the subtitles are in another language. Is this all from one source? Is it all from the same stage of development? It feels like the answers to both are no.

Yeah, I can understand. It's about the only place they can't remove the videos for copyright, as far as I'm aware. I believe they are from different sources, translated into their native language.

 

[Fake]

Yeah, I can understand. It's about the only place they can't remove the videos for copyright, as far as I'm aware. I believe they are from different sources, translated into their native language.

Offtopic, but are you promoving your own site or just a coincidence you're have the same nick/avatar as the site you posted?

 

[MadAnon]

Wouldn't a zombie apocalypse be exactly the world you wanted to get buff in, though?

There's a difference between naturally buffing up/staying in shape and becoming a steroid filled freak. Obviously the zombie apocalypse doesn't stop that roid production and supply?

 

[Entroyp]

So I’m forced to play as a lesbian thought the game?

 

[JoyFreak]

Offtopic, but are you promoving your own site or just a coincidence you're have the same nick/avatar as the site you posted?

No, It is my website. I'm only providing a source for the videos as they've been removed from almost everywhere. (The source being Telegram)

 

[Fake]

No, It is my website. I'm only providing a source for the videos as they've been removed from almost everywhere.

You really can do that here? I know you ctrl+c ctrl+v the same post on resetera because there is really forbidden. Dunno if is the same case here, but figures.

 

[joe_zazen]

Most protagonists in any game are going to suffer at some point... otherwise there isn't conflict.

I didn't paint Joel as a master mind evil villain, I said some of his actions in the first game were villainous.

How did people become fans of Joel and Ellie? Was it by playing as them in the first game and spending hours with them? You know, things they haven't done yet with this new character?

Where is my argument that everyone should be friendly and "justice giving" in a zombie apocalypse game?



Yes you do.

Because you read a short summary and saw 5 2 minute videos and decided you know how well structured a plot is.

You know exceptionally less than everything, it's a 30 hour game.

You have a few key scenes spoiled, not the actual entire plot, people don't even know how it actually ends yet, lol. You're clearly jumping to conclusions and don't understand how to actually judge plot structure (you need the entire plot).

just to add to this, Naughty Dog focus tests the shit out of their gsmes. every line, action, and sequence will have been calibrated to popular tastes. This is how i know ellie doesnt die and most people will be just fine with the story. They make corporate product, not art afterall.

 

[JoyFreak]

You really can do that here? I know you ctrl+c ctrl+v the same post on resetera because there is really forbidden. Dunno if is the same case here, but figures.

They are usually from other gaming sources.

 

[Fake]

They are usually from other gaming sources.

Don't matter. You can't promove your own site. Is just like D dark10x posting or creating threads about Digital Foundry, with I guess is forbidden.
Is was better you should ask Mod of War before making that.

 

[MCplayer]

I'm Black and I want ND to implement black caracters in The Last of Us part 2 and 3, since they killed both blacks in one......................

 

[JoyFreak]

Don't matter. You can't promove your own site. Is just like D dark10x posting or creating threads about Digital Foundry, with I guess is forbidden.
Is was better you should ask Mod of War before making that.

I haven't? I only provided a link to telegram with the LOUP2 videos because they've been removed from other sources. Feel free to report it to a moderator to remove the post if that's forbidden. Also, we are steering this way off-topic so please PM me if you want to further discuss.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Joel was a hero, making you play as his killer is some s*ck sh*t.




That's about as fit as you see in the gym, it doesn't widen shoulders and waist to male proportions.





That is what you see when you look at dudes in the gym.

Sure, that screenshot looks odd. I should have clarified I was talking about what she looked like in this video.



Jacked, but not all that outlandish.

 

[RokkanStoned]

Yes you do.

Because you read a short summary and saw 5 2 minute videos and decided you know how well structured a plot is.

You know exceptionally less than everything, it's a 30 hour game.

You have a few key scenes spoiled, not the actual entire plot, people don't even know how it actually ends yet, lol. You're clearly jumping to conclusions and don't understand how to actually judge plot structure (you need the entire plot).

No, you don't. A plot's overarching structure is a thing in itself. The scenes it consists of are irrelevant in that respect (but they are both relevant to the story and experience as a whole), and we certainly have that information.

And no, you don't need an entire plot to judge a plot structure. That's kinda the point. We know how the game is split up, thus we can judge the overarching structure. Perhaps the plot itself might be harder to judge, as the structure is but a part of it, but there is no need to "wait judgement" anyways, as you judge things on what's available, not on what might hypothetically later be known. We don't know about the plot's pacing or all the scenes, which is the only part where "30 hour game" is remotely relevant. That's without considering that it's a game and likely filled with a lot of gameplay in those 30 hours, which again is irrelevant to the plot.

To give you an example:

humanity discovers impending doom thanks to scientist
scientists builds a AI driven computer DNA hotel "louis" and an ark
deteriorating hotel 1
deteriorating hotel 2
louis malfunctioning
ark returns to earth after millions of years and saves the hotel and start bringing humanity back

It can even be used in the same format as we know from TLoU2:

humanity-doomed
2-solutions
hotel-built
humanity-dying
20000-ad
1200000-ad
louis-flashback
ark-returns

That's the overarching plot structure of the one shot manga "Hotel". Sure, the story is more than its structure, but that's not what's being judged. What's being judged is the structure of the plot and the plot beats connected to them. It's not about the depth, because Hotel has a lot of depths and interesting aspects and scenes that happens within that structure. That's also why I've said that TLoU2 might be better than its structure, just like TLoU1 was. The problem is that the structure of TLoU2 and the story beats connected to them are awful, especially in the context of its predecessor, unlike TLoU1 which was more typical or generic.

It tells us more than enough for us to judge something like a timeline or a structure. That's also how the whole field of history works, by analyzing pieces of history and making casual and analytical judgements of them. If you combine screenshots and videos into it as well, then suddenly you have a plethora of information to judge something based on. Then once the game comes out (ie. getting more information) you can reassess things, though something structural is unlikely to change much. So your defense here is pretty weak. It's not like it's a rumour, we have actual information about the structure of the game. Literary analysis focus on all of these different things, though that's usually in a descriptive way (basically picking apart every aspect of a story) and not prescriptive as I'm doing.

In TLoU2's case we know the basic overarching structure and we even know some of the important story beats. Thus we have lots of things to judge the plot on without having to experience it all. Sure, we can't judge the whole story, because the story as a whole is more than the plot, but we have enough to be able to say "that's bad". Introducing the daughter of a no-name surgeon from the first game and a revenge plot is also as a story beat, especially in the context of the first game, that just is awful. Then again, perhaps there's so magical missing link that somehow justifies the choice of structure and story beats. However, you're arguing too much in its favor, saying that because we don't know every single thing about the game, that somehow there's something there that'll make things better, when in fact the opposite might be true, that it might make things much worse. What we can judge is what we know and that should be what's the most important, not wishful thinking about what might be, which is akin to religious fanaticism.

 

[Fake]

Looks like the playstation store page is back.

The Last of Us Part II

<b>To play this game on PS5, your system may need to be updated to the latest system software. Although this game is playable on PS5, some features available on PS4 may be absent. See PlayStation.com/bc for more details.</b><br>Five years after their dangerous journey across the post-pandemic United

store.playstation.com

Is this mention was there before?

Spoiler

A Complex and Emotional Story
Experience the escalating moral conflicts created by Ellie’s relentless pursuit of vengeance. The cycle of violence left in her wake will challenge your notions of right versus wrong, good versus evil, and hero versus villain.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Looks like the playstation store page is back.

The Last of Us Part II

<b>To play this game on PS5, your system may need to be updated to the latest system software. Although this game is playable on PS5, some features available on PS4 may be absent. See PlayStation.com/bc for more details.</b><br>Five years after their dangerous journey across the post-pandemic United

store.playstation.com

Is this mention was there before?

Spoiler

A Complex and Emotional Story
Experience the escalating moral conflicts created by Ellie’s relentless pursuit of vengeance. The cycle of violence left in her wake will challenge your notions of right versus wrong, good versus evil, and hero versus villain.

Welp... there it is. I can't believe they're doing a "but both sides" story as a follow up to The Last of Us. Seems like such a step down from the original.

There still could be a lot in the execution to make this an interesting game, so I'll wait for more post-launch impressions, but man, this is a huge disappointment.