How about Cyanogen splitting to build a better version of Android?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4...-million-to-build-the-best-version-of-android
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4...-million-to-build-the-best-version-of-android
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Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I've decided to just suck it up and buy the new N4 if it's a similar price. I mean, I can still sell this N4 for like $200, no? I still like the current N4 better, aesthetic wise.
OK, I'm still undecided. Hurry up and announce it already, Google.
OK, I'm still undecided. Hurry up and announce it already, Google.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Interesting. But why? If Google cuts off its apps, devs have to submit to another Store, no Gmail, Hangouts, etc. Sounds like a pain. I still like the idea. Let's see if Google decides to stop AOSP.
Admirable idea but its bound to fail. CM works at the moment because you can still use Gapps with it.
If they go for a full fork, then they lose out on this.
This works for Amazon because they have a store and content they can sell through their hardware.
Why would they cut them off. CM has always adhered to AOSP.
All they need to do is get legit with the licensing. I don't see them forking android to a point where it's not AOSPcetic.
I wouldn't be surprised to see all the additions from CM become premium features instead of just free for all open source. Anderwebs realized this early on with ADW+, and it looks like the CM guys finally got the lightbulb turned on.
Good for them, I say, they've done a shitload of awesome work.
i think this is pretty bad news for cyanogenmod. the real reason so many people install cyanogenmod is that its generally the best near stock android ROM on a lot of devices because all the good low level hackery type people who can hack the firmware and do stuff like make ICS run on a phone before samsung release it 'work' voluntarily for cyanogenmod as a hobby.
like on the SGS2, there were AOSP roms too, but I used cyanogen because they seemed to be the hackers who new what they were doing best, not because of any changes cyanogenmod made to AOSP.
their actual modifications to AOSP are very minor, and don't really indicate any kind of ability at large scale software engineering or UX design, just making small changes to the AOSP launcher and stuff. most of the good work they did was behind the scenes stuff to make some obscure audio chip's firmware run on ICS or whatever.
make it into a company and you lose all those hackers who were doing it as a hobby, and they move onto AOKP or something, and what is left?
plus their statements are super contradictory (although I don't really see what they are talking about with the cash register thing):
like on the SGS2, there were AOSP roms too, but I used cyanogen because they seemed to be the hackers who new what they were doing best, not because of any changes cyanogenmod made to AOSP.
their actual modifications to AOSP are very minor, and don't really indicate any kind of ability at large scale software engineering or UX design, just making small changes to the AOSP launcher and stuff. most of the good work they did was behind the scenes stuff to make some obscure audio chip's firmware run on ICS or whatever.
make it into a company and you lose all those hackers who were doing it as a hobby, and they move onto AOKP or something, and what is left?
plus their statements are super contradictory (although I don't really see what they are talking about with the cash register thing):
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Which is funny because as they said they probably have as many users as WP.
Anyways I think this will actually work out well for them, but you can put me in the remains to be seen category of just how this will all eventually shake out.
WHY IS THE VERIZON EDITION STILL BRANDED
Junior Mint
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too funny
Holy shit. Too funny.
Junior Mint
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I love that Facebook can update their app in time for iOS 7 launch but can't figure out Android 2 years after ICS.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
To be fair ask me a year or so ago and I would have bitched about FB. I got no real problems with the current version though.
Maybe it's because I'm on the beta track? IDK... runs fine and doesn't hang on loading like it use to for me.
Facebook still runs like trash for me. It was good for the 2.0 update but then slowly went back to crap after a few more updates. I don't know what happened and it happens on several devices I used.
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Vyse The Legend
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What a steal!
I'm surprised they didn't force Motorola to rename it the Droid Verizon: Developer Moto Edition X.
Junior Mint
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I'm on beta too. The main news feed looks fine. Start going anywhere else and the entire app design falls apart.
1. Click any of the status extras like add friend, location, "what you are doing", or the privacy/audience settings. All these menus look poorly designed and straight up ugly.
2. The photo selector is straight out of iOS. Seriously?
3. The check in and nearby places don't even look the same but they show the same information. Why? The nearby places menu in the sidebar looks like it still uses the Gingerbread loading circle.
4. Sliding an empty comments "bubble" causes the "no comments" image and text to go INTO the text entry box.
5. ANY kind of animation still jank as shit.
I can go on but basically the entire app outside of the news feed looks like it was just forgotten about.
At least the front isn't branded.
Pray Verizon won't put the logo on the virtual buttons next time.
ThatObviousUser
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Did you guys read Ars' Technica's G2 review? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Verizon replaced the standard black theme for the system bar with this. Yes, you read that right.
Verizon replaced the standard black theme for the system bar with this. Yes, you read that right.
Did you guys read Ars' Technica's G2 review? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Verizon replaced the standard black theme for the system bar with this. Yes, you read that right.
Oh they weren't just using the transparent bar with a pink background?
Junior Mint
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lmao
Did you guys read Ars' Technica's G2 review? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Verizon replaced the standard black theme for the system bar with this. Yes, you read that right.
The Faceless Master
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price causes terror
Did you guys read Ars' Technica's G2 review? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Verizon replaced the standard black theme for the system bar with this. Yes, you read that right.
The Faceless Master
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Did you guys read Ars' Technica's G2 review? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Verizon replaced the standard black theme for the system bar with this. Yes, you read that right.
*reads review*
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lol
decimals are expensive mang
More like flat RC Cola to Samsung's RC Cola
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
JonathanEx
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It's things like that which make me think "this Cyanogen going more serious may be a good thing".
Like, much easier install, getting real competition on OS? May get carriers/manufacturers to up their game with updates/bloatware, if it's really accessible to get off their OS. And if they switch from what's on their phone, they may not use some of your non-shit services you want them too...
Pipe dream of course
And nothing's gonna stop Verizon, christ alive
Like, much easier install, getting real competition on OS? May get carriers/manufacturers to up their game with updates/bloatware, if it's really accessible to get off their OS. And if they switch from what's on their phone, they may not use some of your non-shit services you want them too...
Pipe dream of course
And nothing's gonna stop Verizon, christ alive
ThatObviousUser
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So it's a half-step down from TouchWiz then.
Sorry BB, Hangouts has been out for months.
COLOURS! The operating system.
Android needs a real makeover with 4.4 and I don't think its going to get it. Holo dark needs to just.. die. Holo light is so much nicer, imo.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
That is ugly and Apple should feel bad.
I would have understood sticking to Holo dark if the Nexus lines used AMOLED screens but since Samsung isn't exactly taking advantage of the dark tones of stock Android with Touchwiz, there doesn't seem like a reason to not go with light over dark.
Best part of having switched to Android? I was doing some house keeping on my PC the other day and came across all these iTunes related folders and files. All these memories of the absolute hell involved in migrating my iTunes library between OS installations came flooding back. It felt so good to just laugh and delete it all.
All notifications stay holo dark (with the icons being white instead of fucking BLUE), all settings and apps are holo light/cards.
Vyse The Legend
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Mystery solved: LG D821 is the Nexus 5 for Brazil
Sorry, Verizon peeps, who thought this might be your variant.
Sorry, Verizon peeps, who thought this might be your variant.
You know, I say "whatever" to most of the design changes, but then I say "what the fuck" to the Newsstand and Game Center icons.
Still getting one because I want to learn development for iOS. But my GS4 will still be my main phone.
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