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Anonymousn says ISIS has plans for more attacks on Sunday (tomorrow)

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commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
If this is accurate why didn't they just let law enforcement know and not publicize it? Other than for attention I mean.


I don't understand why people are questioning this. If you were going to go to these events, why wouldn't you want to know ahead of time?
 

dejay

Banned
Keep in mind there are hackers out there beyond what fbi or others can possibly do. there will always be crazy amazing hackers around that just cant work in office buildings or work for someone.

For every amazing hacker there are fifty morons who are prone to reaching false conclusions, glory seeking, or being duped into spreading FUD on behalf of the organisation they're supposed to be attacking.
 
I don't quite agree.

They could feel like they have solid info, and they could pass that info on to the authorities, but if they aren't privy to whether the authorities believe and are acting on that information then I could see why informing the public would be the actions of someone really wanting to help. At this late stage it could mean disrupting a plan, and there would be the potential to save lives.

Yea, and now you could have 800 rambos showing up armed to the teeth, overly paranoid, attacking people based on the way they look. Or you could have the terrorists going into hiding, losing any opportunity of catching them.

Basic rule of military strategy: Don't let the enemy know that you know their plans. Pass it to law enforcement and let them do their jobs. If the intelligence is as much "proof " as they say it is, it will be acted on appropriately
 
For every amazing hacker there are fifty morons who are prone to reaching false conclusions, glory seeking, or being duped into spreading FUD on behalf of the organisation they're supposed to be attacking.

Yes of course, that is why we have to take it all with a grain of salt. But, if the right guys want to do it... hopefully they are able to prevent things.

I wouldn't take these things too seriously as it could be one of the morons... sure.
 
Oh man, I'm heading back home to Atlanta tomorrow for Thanksgiving. And I have a ton of friends who go to GA State and Tech. Stay safe, AtlantaGAF. Better to play it safe than sorry.
 

MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
If this is accurate why didn't they forward law enforcement their information and not publicize it? Other than for attention I mean.

I mean, it's right there in the OP:
The collective published the list of potential targets alongside a statement: "The goal is to make sure the whole world, or at least the people going to these events, know that there have been threats and that there is possibility of an attack to happen. Another goal is to make sure Daesh knows that the world knows and cancels the attacks, which will disorientate them for a while."
This also seems a lot more efficient than individually telling law enforcement agencies in Indonesia, Milan, Paris, Rome, Atlanta, Lebanon, and various other locales around the world, especially when the threat is so imminent.

Granted, they could also be full of shit and it is purely for attention grabbing, but there's no real way of knowing that.
 

Grizzo

Member
Uhhh I have friends who might be going to this week's Concrete :/

Concrete is a weekly electronic afterparty that takes place each sunday from like 6am to midnight.

I'm not feeling well at all right now.
 
I don't see how the FBI comments are validation of the claims. They take every threat seriously, that's how it works.

This is exactly the kind of thing that causes mass hysteria.
 
I do think these guys could have a hard time in america, I mean especially georgia... these guys have guns everywhere. I admit I feel uncomfortable when I have been around people walking around with guns on their belts but there are quite a few well mannered and helpful country people that would def. light these guys up.

I'm not saying a gun is the solution, but in a lot of ways it's the only equal imo and I would be thankful if someone was able to at least try to use their knowledge of guns to protect us. Not saying it would work out, and it's such a scary an tense situation that no one wants to go through.

And no, I def. don't want people going to these events with the idea of looking for it to happen with their guns.
 
Do they just target bands with "death" in the name or what?

I assume they chose bataclan for it's location, area for where people stand and for ease of use. It really seems like a place that people can't easily escape when you have a large crowd packed together in an oval shape. I doubt the band had anything to do with it. But I honestly have no idea.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Might as well post the original Source IBM times

According to Anonymous: "We only appeared now because our goal was to remain undercover and report everything to the right authorities and let them take all the action. But when authorities do not take action, Anonymous does. This part of the op started last Monday and has [been] and will be active 24 hours a day as long as the op is going on."

Speaking to International Business Times, Anonymous said it had passed proof to the MI5 intelligence agency in the U.K., the CIA and FBI in the U.S., and the Australian government but that it has no plans to release the proof publicly. "If we share the proof [publicly], everyone will start calling it fake because screenshots can be edited and accounts can be deleted. We have purposely not shared account links publicly because they would be shut down immediately and then no one would believe the proof."

http://www.ibtimes.com/anonymous-says-isis-plans-attacks-against-paris-world-sunday-2194926
 
I don't understand why people are questioning this. If you were going to go to these events, why wouldn't you want to know ahead of time?

It is literally the job of the FBI etc to determine the appropriate response. If the appropriate response is to alert the public, that's exactly what they will do. If there is a better response, they will do that instead. But they are in a far better position to determine what's appropriate than a bunch of random internet hackers.
 
The FBI said Saturday that it's aware of a terror threat made against a WWE event in Atlanta on Sunday — but with no "credible information," organizers said the show will go on.

"While we take all threats seriously, we do not have specific or credible information of an attack at this time," J. Britt Johnson, special agent in charge of the FBI Atlanta Field Office, said in a statement. "We have, however, made the proper notifications as we continue to work closely with our law enforcement and private sector partners to keep our community safe."

How about you put this in the OP?
 

Scrooged

Totally wronger about Nintendo's business decisions.
I mean, it's right there in the OP:

This also seems a lot more efficient than individually telling law enforcement agencies in Indonesia, Milan, Paris, Rome, Atlanta, Lebanon, and various other locales around the world, especially when the threat is so imminent.

Granted, they could also be full of shit and it is purely for attention grabbing, but there's no real way of knowing that.

The point is that counter terrorism isn't done this way for a reason. You're average person isn't equipped to deal with a threat like this, and the less the terrorists know about how much you know about them, the better.
 
I always feel they would lke to do something that is being televised live rather it be wwe, sports or some type of similar match.

It seems like something they would like to do to make people see it and afraid of it even though I doubt it would be on air after it started anyways.

The WWE is usually in NBA arenas?
 

Grizzo

Member
I always feel they would lke to do something that is being televised live rather it be wwe, sports or some type of similar match.

It seems like something they would like to do to make people see it and afraid of it even though I doubt it would be on air after it started anyways.

The WWE is usually in NBA arenas?

Well you're right since they tried doing just that, last week at Stade De France during the football match between France and Germany.
 

CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
I'm sure that randoms on the internet can spend a week digging into international terror networks and come up with more information than professional global intelligence agencies have. I'm also sure that those same randoms can analyse, interpret, and act on that information in a completely responsible and reasonable manner.

Actually, wait, no I'm not.
 
It doesn't really matter, it's just a translation of the acronym.

It does kind of matter bc Daesh takes out the Islamic part of the acronym because Daesh shouldn't be associated with Muslims since they're just terrible people/terrorists using Islam as a means to an end
 
Keep in mind there are hackers out there beyond what fbi or others can possibly do. there will always be crazy amazing hackers around that just cant work in office buildings or work for someone.

The goverenment obviously has more pull but they won't always have the skill or creative senses to detect everything. Don't think a hacker cant just cause you see some kids playing kill PSN and XBL

Besides, anything can be missed and picked up by chance by anyone.
Bigger issue (IMO) is that working for a big government agency implies conformity to a certain type of culture and mindset that can make you miss the forest for the trees.

Obviously some hacker types can excel in that environment, but many can't.


... that said? Hopefully these are bogus.
 
I don't understand why people are questioning this. If you were going to go to these events, why wouldn't you want to know ahead of time?

Because the public can be very very stupid in how they react to such things.

Quietly dealing with threats has worked well for many years. What is informing the public going to accomplish but panic? People seeking entertainment should not have to make attendance decisions on hearsay. Large scale "successful" terrorist attacks in the locations in the OP are still in the minority, and only really happen when agencies fail. The public should not have to worry about every suspected threat, as it is currently proven they can be dealt without interference.
 

MUnited83

For you.
But they don't like being called daesh, or so I heard. I mean, I don't care either way, but if people want to disrespect the menace, all power to them.

This isn't actually true, they don't give a shit.

If this is accurate why didn't they forward law enforcement their information and not publicize it? Other than for attention I mean.
Assuming it's actually true: we've seen intelligence agencies ignoring clear signs of terrorist attacks again and again. Informing people publicly of which places might be affected doesn't seem so bad to me considering that.
 

Cohsae

Member
Apparently the reason that many people refer to them as Daesh is because when it's spoken aloud it sounds like the Arabic words daes and dahes which mean something along the lines of people who sow destruction. And supposedly they aren't fans of the association.
 
UPDATE ON SITUATION

So we talked to Kane this morning via text about this thing and he says that we know more about this threat than they do.

You're going to ask how do we know Kane, we do interviews with him so much because he does a lot around the Knoxville community. His number ia in our system(I work in news).

At the moment they plan to carry on with the event but we'll see
 
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HE WILL PROFILE THE HELL OUT OF THEM BROTHER!
 

hokahey

Member
flying to ATL tomorrow for thanksgiving. now I'm just a tad anxious

Don't be. I don't know how old you were right after 9/11, but this kind of stuff was constant. Just about every major city was about to be obliterated. Remember when people were about to saran wrap their homes? Live your life but be alert. Odds are higher you'll get hit by a car than shot by terrorists in ATL tomorrow.
 

icespide

Banned
Don't be. I don't know how old you were right after 9/11, but this kind of stuff was constant. Just about every major city was about to be obliterated. Remember when people were about to saran wrap their homes? Live your life but be alert. Odds are higher you'll get hit by a car than shot by terrorists in ATL tomorrow.

to be honest the potential for panic and normal stupidity makes me more anxious for my trip than an unlikely attack
 
to be honest the potential for panic and normal stupidity makes me more anxious for my trip than an unlikely attack

Yep.

There have probably been thousands of threats of various levels of severity and credibility made against the US since 9/11.

There's a reason we don't hear about them unless they are gravely imminent.

Half of the populace completely shutting themselves off from civilization and the other half coming out armed like Rambo ready to fuck up the day of anyone who may even remotely "look like a terrorist" does not make for a well-functioning society.
 

Alx

Member
Speaking to International Business Times, the group behind the attack said it had passed proof to MI5, CIA, FBI and the Australian government=]

Claim to have info on events in France, Italy, Lebanon and Indonesia, only send the details to US, UK and Australia...
 
Nobody knows who anonymous is though. What if isis is just posing as anonymous? or what if isis = anonymous? Let's leave national security to our government please.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
Is it really good work? You're assuming the Feds don't already know about it. They might have been set up to thwart said attack and arrest the individuals. Now the individuals know we know and might be planning something else more carefully.

People always seem to ignore this fact.

This pretty much, Anonymous are nothing but a bunch of keyboards warriors who think that they are doing some good but in reality are doing more harm and in some case getting in the way of real police's work.
 

iMax

Member
@TripleH said:
.@WWE Survivor Series is currently scheduled as planned while we investigate reports with authorities.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TripleH/status/668164542887763968[/tweet]
 
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