How about some type of information on why or how it will be used? Personally I like the Beretta Px4 Storm for 9mm pistols but I've never shot a M&P and only the 5" version of the XD.
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How about some type of information on why or how it will be used? Personally I like the Beretta Px4 Storm for 9mm pistols but I've never shot a M&P and only the 5" version of the XD.
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I only shoot at ranges and so don't think I can really help. Glock is probably the most popular and I like the size of the 17 I but never have to deal with walking around with it in a holster. Recoil on the newer models is definitely better than the older. I'd say you really can't go wrong with any of them and the choice for you to make is on the size.
Eighty Deuce
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Alright thanks. I was just wondering if any were known to have a bad reputation or something to make my job a bit easier when shopping in the next few weeks.
Aww hell no, he just talk crap about my 1911?
I was considering SIG but they were removed from the list of allowed weapons a few years back and most models were put in an "unsafe" list. So, no Sig for me except for non-duty usage.
Will this be 100% duty belt / external holster, 100% concealed, or potentially a mix of both? Do you have some personal preferences that would already have you leaning towards one or more of these?
Can you upgrade to a Springfield XDM? If not I'd probably with that option go M&P personally. I'm not a fan of Glock's at all.
I hate the ergonomics. I hate the sights. I hate the takedown.
MisterNoisy
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No truly bad choices in that crowd, but I dislike the Glock trigger and grip angle. I like all of the XDs I've shot - even though they still have the striker gun trigger, it's pretty sweet and I'm almost as good with them as I am with my CZs (Any chance you can con them into letting you use a P07/P09?)
Reaper_88, that AR is super sick - I think you have more money in your lower than I have in my entire rifle, lol. Very hawt.
Also, this is a thing. While I'm not a huge fan of carry, the Taurus Curve looks like a perfect CCW/point-shooting BUG - I wonder how long it'll take for someone to copy the design.
I think the only reason to go with the Glock 19 over the 17 would be if you were going to carry concealed. It's common sense that up to a point, a similar but larger gun shoots better. I have shot the 19 a few times at the range, and it seemed like a good gun to me, but nobody at my IPSC club uses the 19 over the 17.
For what it's worth, at least one guy I know likes the M&P over the Glock, again for IPSC. It should be solid enough.
If none of the three guns has major reliability issues, I'd just choose based on which gun gives you the best grip. It's not good enough to try them in leisurely range shooting, you have to do fast draws, fast repeated shots, etc. and see if you still have a perfect grip afterwards for an accurate shot. For instance, my fancy CZ75 SP01 Shadow seems to fit my hands well, but with a symmetric grip that I'd like to use for speed & accuracy, it twists itself into a worse grip when shooting fast, and to prevent that I have to squeeze the gun really awkwardly and that costs performance. I should have gone with a Glock to be honest. It didn't feel as good at first but for my hand it does the important thing, locks into the grip. The Glock also points better for me (although I consider pointing completely secondary to grip stability - you can always tilt the wrists a little bit and drill that to muscle memory).
Gotta take my CCW class and then wait for my LiveScan to complete for my permit, got myself one of those Sticky Holsters for conceal carry.
Anybody have experience with TruGlo sights?
Also to TheJLC:
Go to a reputable gunstore, try out every single 9mm they have there and decide from there. I have small hands so Glocks are rather awkward for me, I settled on an XD because it fit right for me. Doing it over again, I would probably go with another M&P (I have a M&P Shield 9mm that I intend to use as a carry weapon). I'm also limited to selection because I'm in California.
Anybody have experience with TruGlo sights?
Also to TheJLC:
Go to a reputable gunstore, try out every single 9mm they have there and decide from there. I have small hands so Glocks are rather awkward for me, I settled on an XD because it fit right for me. Doing it over again, I would probably go with another M&P (I have a M&P Shield 9mm that I intend to use as a carry weapon). I'm also limited to selection because I'm in California.
MisterNoisy
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Looks like CZ is finally marketing a semi-auto version of the Scorpion EVO 3. I may have found my next gun.
BattleMonkey
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Sold out everywhere around here, it looks neat. Considering it myself but theres waiting lists
Had a pretty good day at the "range" (random shooting area in the middle of nowhere miles from town) today with a friend. Showed an old broken record player wassup with my new 9mm, the "full auto" (bumpski stock) AK, and my Mossberg, which we bought some 00 Buck for. That stuff is hard on the wrists! Will post a video soon of our shenanigans. Took some nifty slow mo footage with the iPhone 6 camera.
Also, might be getting a new rifle soon... My dad has a beautiful German .300 Win Magnum worth upwards of $2000 that he's going to give me.
Also, might be getting a new rifle soon... My dad has a beautiful German .300 Win Magnum worth upwards of $2000 that he's going to give me.
MisterNoisy
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Awesome. A day at the range is the best way to decompress that I know of. Very cool about the rifle, too.
Video time. My friend is a noob and likes to film in portrait mode so due to zooming in, clip quality varies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw9jXGzn7XU
That AK will never get old lol. Need to order more ammo soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw9jXGzn7XU
That AK will never get old lol. Need to order more ammo soon.
Eighty Deuce
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1500 is fair for used, H&k recently had a 200 dollar rebate going on for new guns.
The back lean is making me cringe something fierce.
Is that you with the back lean? Don't take this the hard way but that form is terrible.
That's my friend, who very rarely shoots. So yes his form is very poor.
My form isn't good either, but I haven't shot the AK often (it's my first assault rifle) and almost all of my prior target shooting was done long range from a resting position. So I have a lot to learn as well. I try to remind myself to lean into it, but we were just messing around and weren't really concerned about accuracy or form.
I'm good with scoped rifles and skeet shooting. Anything else and I need more practice.
My form isn't good either, but I haven't shot the AK often (it's my first assault rifle) and almost all of my prior target shooting was done long range from a resting position. So I have a lot to learn as well. I try to remind myself to lean into it, but we were just messing around and weren't really concerned about accuracy or form.
I'm good with scoped rifles and skeet shooting. Anything else and I need more practice.
BattleMonkey
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bumpstock on the ak?
BattleMonkey
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I've been wanting to get cheap AR to put a bump stock on, but don't really know of any place around me that would even let me fire it on "auto"
Beautiful!
Yeah, the local range here doesn't allow full autos or bump firing, but it's just as easy to drive out of town. Lots of good shooting locations around here.
Yeah, the local range here doesn't allow full autos or bump firing, but it's just as easy to drive out of town. Lots of good shooting locations around here.
If you live anywhere near the countryside, check online to find some public land that isn't a park of some sort. Then just call am ask the local sherrif/police and ask if there are any local statutes on using public land for firearm practice. If not, there ya go.
MisterNoisy
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New revolver. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet.
Hawt! I'd have gone for a longer barrel, just because I like the look of 6"+ barrel revolvers, but that's a sexy wheelie - bet it throws mean fireballs.
shadyspace
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I really need to start being more diligent about using ear protection.
MisterNoisy
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Absolutely - I highly recommend a set of these electronic earmuffs. Great sound reduction and you can still hear everything.
Going to the Great American Outdoors Show on Wednesday, can't wait to see all the amazing guns on display that I'll never, ever be able to afford. I'm just hoping for some sweet swag and to at least hold some of them!
I have the exact same pair and freaking love them. Super comfy with or without a cap and great noise reduction. The electronics also work great for hearing normal voices!
I have the exact same pair and freaking love them. Super comfy with or without a cap and great noise reduction. The electronics also work great for hearing normal voices!
Mad jealous. I love HKs and just picked myself up a VP9 last week.
lostsupper
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Congrats. Incredible pistol.
The only thing I hate is that I bought it used. Something about my personality. I just don't know what it is.
Eighty Deuce
Banned
I have 6" already
This is a small frame revolver and theoretically if I ever wanted to conceal carry, this would be a potential candidate.
shadyspace
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Ah, the gun that killed Hitler.
MisterNoisy
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That Scorpion EVO will be mine soon. Just need to wait for the second round of 'em to become available.
I want that evo in a sbr
MisterNoisy
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Inorite? I'd pay for the tax stamp if I could get the actual folding stock for it.
Me too. My state says no though
shadyspace
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Opinions on best caliber for home defense? Bill Burr has this bit in an act of his about how a .22 is best because you won't blow out your ear drums in a high pressure situation and disorient yourself. Obviously, its a joke and the guy doesn't know shit about guns but I keep coming back to that. Maybe the guy's got a point?