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Apex Legends |OT| Have you seen Titanfall 3?

Excuse me, why the fuck does the casual mode have SBMM now?!
Respawn switched it on without saying anything. No one fucking liked it and people have left over it. They're killing their own game.

It never bothered me at first until I play with pre-mades and have to try EXTREMELY hard to win.
 

Mista

Banned
Respawn switched it on without saying anything. No one fucking liked it and people have left over it. They're killing their own game.

It never bothered me at first until I play with pre-mades and have to try EXTREMELY hard to win.
This is fucking stupid. There’s ranked for that :/

First CoD and now Apex. Great...
 

Alx

Member
How do you notice there's skill-based matchmaking involved ? The level of the randoms I'm playing with seem to fluctuate from "great players" to "really dumb" without any visible logic.
It felt that there were many beginners and clueless players lately, but I thought it was because of the holidays.
 

Mista

Banned
How do you notice there's skill-based matchmaking involved ? The level of the randoms I'm playing with seem to fluctuate from "great players" to "really dumb" without any visible logic.
It felt that there were many beginners and clueless players lately, but I thought it was because of the holidays.
When you drop out of the ship and hear lots of explosions (Diamond and Apex Predators) free falling, here you know that this isn’t random by any means
 
The updated kill leader graphic is so damned hot, really gives a boost of confidence to even the shittiest of us. Shame I don't get to see it very often.


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Mista

Banned
Respawn addressed the dashboarding abusers and they’ll face severe punishment. Good because those pricks ruined ranked for everyone else
 
As much as I love the game, I'm not sure I take what Respawn says seriously anymore since we're coming up on the anniversary and the netcode is still hit or miss. Getting mildly fed up with seemingly shooting a mag full of blanks at laggy bastards, not to mention getting murdered after getting behind cover. Maybe it can't be fixed, but I have yet to hear of any attempts at fixing it.

Respawn addressed the dashboarding abusers and they’ll face severe punishment. Good because those pricks ruined ranked for everyone else

I just don't get the point of abusing the system in the first place, is it just to get that predator icon? Bragging rights seem a bit off if you can't back it up anyway.
 
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DonF

Member
Netcode is shit, and even worse if you are like me, in south america. We have only the Brazilian server and that shit is ass. 4% package drop most of the time, 90 ms ping.

I love the game but I'm getting my ass kicked constantly by pre made squads, suspiciously good aiming (most ps4 games in high tiers are flooded with fuckers with XIM) and lag.

I feel like I play with everything against me.
 

Mista

Banned
Netcode is shit, and even worse if you are like me, in south america. We have only the Brazilian server and that shit is ass. 4% package drop most of the time, 90 ms ping.

I love the game but I'm getting my ass kicked constantly by pre made squads, suspiciously good aiming (most ps4 games in high tiers are flooded with fuckers with XIM) and lag.

I feel like I play with everything against me.
Bro, I’m in the Middle East and the closest thing I get is the same as you or 100-110. I feel you, because I can relate. All my life I’ve been playing with high ping in all games!

Also it’s weird that the Brazilian server is shit since you’re in Brazil
 

DonF

Member
My apologies. Thought you’re Brazilian and still suffering on Brazil server.
No worries.

Yeah, all the south cone of South America has just one server, or 4, but they are all located in San Paulo. So Argentinians, Chileans, Peruvians and Brazilians play on the same server.
Obviously Brazilians have the advantage and it's pretty obvious.

I swear to God it doesn't make sense. Fucking australians have more servers.
I would be happy with a server in Peru or even better in Santiago. Hell, the infrastructure is there. Valve and Riot have servers in Santiago and it rules.

Both psn and PC Apex play on Brazilian server.
 

ChoosableOne

ChoosableAll
Desperately waiting for cross-platform to play with my nephews. At least make duos permanent and i can play with my nephews in rotation.

I hope my nephews are waiting for it half as desperately as i am :messenger_grinning: Nevertheless, i will force them to play with me:lollipop_horns: I forced my self to play Fortnite with them like 120 hours. It's time for payback!
 
Gold rush sounds sick, but I really don't have that one duo player to run with. If anyone needs a decent Lifeline, hit me up.

Always be closing sounds like it will be a rough mode for the campers, almost hope that stays permanently.
 
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CuNi

Member
This is fucking stupid. There’s ranked for that :/

First CoD and now Apex. Great...

Modern gaming trend is literally going towards "maximize player retention, fuck fun" which I mean from a business point I can't blame them but as a gamer, I feel really sad.
This already drove me away from Overwatch when you had ranked and they slowly started to make Quick-Play something like "Softcore-Ranked".
Removed the feature to pick the same hero twice, added 2/2/2 to QP*, kept adding really weird heroes to the game.
I feel like we're steering towards games that literally try to tell everyone "nooo! You're good! believe me you are good at this game!", god forbid you get stomped in Quick-Play by someone better than you.

*2/2/2 is something I don't even get for Ranked. Why would you do this? I was slowly dropping out of overwatch before, but this literally killed the game for me.
 

Mista

Banned
Modern gaming trend is literally going towards "maximize player retention, fuck fun" which I mean from a business point I can't blame them but as a gamer, I feel really sad.
This already drove me away from Overwatch when you had ranked and they slowly started to make Quick-Play something like "Softcore-Ranked".
Removed the feature to pick the same hero twice, added 2/2/2 to QP*, kept adding really weird heroes to the game.
I feel like we're steering towards games that literally try to tell everyone "nooo! You're good! believe me you are good at this game!", god forbid you get stomped in Quick-Play by someone better than you.

*2/2/2 is something I don't even get for Ranked. Why would you do this? I was slowly dropping out of overwatch before, but this literally killed the game for me.
Excuse my question of it’s stupid but how’s it better business wise? You’re killing the casual play like that when you already have a ranked mode in your game. Straight up stupid if you ask me
 

CuNi

Member
Excuse my question of it’s stupid but how’s it better business wise? You’re killing the casual play like that when you already have a ranked mode in your game. Straight up stupid if you ask me

In games like Apex which rely on Microtransactions, you can kind of write off the people that end up in higher ranks anyway.
Most of your player base will be far behind those obviously and if you introduce SBMM, you kind of group more or less equally skilled players together so the chance that one team ends up significantly better than all other teams because they ended up having one of those top-tier players drops drastically (smurfs obviously still exist), which in turn increases the chance that player will have a feeling of "enjoying" the game since they statistically will be more likely to kill other players and/or win games when only playing in skill ranges around their own instead of having possibly players from all skill-tiers roaming the map. So those players are more likely to keep playing the game.

What we call "casual play" is most certainly already "enthusiasm play". I mean I can recount more than 1 occasion where friends didn't want to play Halo against me because back then I was the best from our group of friends and would crush them even 4 on 1. They said that's "unfair", so they rather played that game without me because they felt that they had better chances to win games if they could make sure I wasn't one of their opponents and thus didn't get discouraged by losing as much as they would be if I would have won.

TL;DR I guess it's mostly psychology for the casual and average player that when they know they only play against equally skilled players, they rate the amount of joy they get higher.
 

Mista

Banned
In games like Apex which rely on Microtransactions, you can kind of write off the people that end up in higher ranks anyway.
Most of your player base will be far behind those obviously and if you introduce SBMM, you kind of group more or less equally skilled players together so the chance that one team ends up significantly better than all other teams because they ended up having one of those top-tier players drops drastically (smurfs obviously still exist), which in turn increases the chance that player will have a feeling of "enjoying" the game since they statistically will be more likely to kill other players and/or win games when only playing in skill ranges around their own instead of having possibly players from all skill-tiers roaming the map. So those players are more likely to keep playing the game.

What we call "casual play" is most certainly already "enthusiasm play". I mean I can recount more than 1 occasion where friends didn't want to play Halo against me because back then I was the best from our group of friends and would crush them even 4 on 1. They said that's "unfair", so they rather played that game without me because they felt that they had better chances to win games if they could make sure I wasn't one of their opponents and thus didn't get discouraged by losing as much as they would be if I would have won.

TL;DR I guess it's mostly psychology for the casual and average player that when they know they only play against equally skilled players, they rate the amount of joy they get higher.
Good point my man. Very well written post too

Now I fully agree👍🏼👍🏼 Also massive respect to you for being a Halo player♥️
 

Nixonomics

Member
From an Apex dev on twitter:


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It looks like we'll be seeing a lot more of this behind the scenes SBMM in big MP games going forward. From a business perspective it makes sense - especially with the prevalence of micro transactions.

But I fucking hate it. I miss flexing in casual lobbies.
 

Mista

Banned
From an Apex dev on twitter:


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It looks like we'll be seeing a lot more of this behind the scenes SBMM in big MP games going forward. From a business perspective it makes sense - especially with the prevalence of micro transactions.

But I fucking hate it. I miss flexing in casual lobbies.
Fuck him and fuck whoever thought introducing SBMM in pubs is a great idea
 
I played the piss out of the game in casual playlist until they brought SBMM in and I've barely touched it since. Maxed the battle pass out and since then I maybe play one a fortnight until Im reminded how much fun has been sucked out of the experience. Shame.
 
Just had our whole team killed off by some jackass team who had made a nest inside a damned cliff at Fuel depot. Between this and a slew of weird bugs and netcode issues lately, I think I'm just about done with this game until the new season drops.
 

Mista

Banned
I played the piss out of the game in casual playlist until they brought SBMM in and I've barely touched it since. Maxed the battle pass out and since then I maybe play one a fortnight until Im reminded how much fun has been sucked out of the experience. Shame.
I haven’t even completed the BP yet. I’ll have to sooner than later. Funny how there’s SBMM in casual when the game has a ranked mode...
 
I haven’t even completed the BP yet. I’ll have to sooner than later. Funny how there’s SBMM in casual when the game has a ranked mode...

It was such a dumb decision. Before it arrived, I had a realistic chance of winning any game I entered. Now, I have to get the sweat bands on and mainline a jug of coffee to be in with a chance.
 

Mista

Banned
It was such a dumb decision. Before it arrived, I had a realistic chance of winning any game I entered. Now, I have to get the sweat bands on and mainline a jug of coffee to be in with a chance.
The amount of explosions I hear every game are unreal (Diamond and Apex Predator) I mean I can go to ranked if I wanna sweat. Apex and CoD are ruining it with this dogshit idea. I’m not here to test my skills, I’m here to have a couple of chill games for fuck sake
 
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Deleted member 775630

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I never really noticed the SBMM. I'm diamond, but only because I play very defensive. Go for away at launch loot, and end up in at least top 8 always. So I would image that if I play regular apex I get matched with all these amazing diamond players, but that's not the case at all. Most of the time I can easily Top 3 those games with a more aggressive playstyle, and I'm really not that good
 
Played a few rounds of gold to clear the challenges, I found it sort of amusing that it's called Gold Rush while in reality it was all about camping. Got a newfound respect for the kraber, though. May end up dropping the longbow for a kraber in regular modes from time to time.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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Gold Duos was fun, but I expected every weapon to be gold, but maybe the R301 and R99 would be too overpowered? Eventually only won 1 game, but we won by playing the best tactically, which is one of my favourite ways of winning :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

Mista

Banned
Gold Duos was fun, but I expected every weapon to be gold, but maybe the R301 and R99 would be too overpowered? Eventually only won 1 game, but we won by playing the best tactically, which is one of my favourite ways of winning :messenger_grinning_sweat:
Yeah the current gold guns are boring
 

Nixonomics

Member
Glad they brought back duos, even if it's just for 2 days. The Kraber is so satisfying to use and in duos it's incredibly strong. You can quickly break someone's shield with a Kraber shot (or just outright down them) and push the advantage much more confidently knowing there's only one other person in the squad. A Kraber and a gold Flatline has been my go-to. Picked up 4 wins yesterday and hoping to get the other 4 for the fully upgraded badge tonight.

LIVE.DIE.LIVE and Always Be Closing are going to make for some intense final rings.
 

Alx

Member
Yeah I was about to say that the Kraber felt much too strong for that game mode. It's ok in regular games since it's quite rare, but with the Golden Rush you would encounter it everywhere and are always exposed to being one-shot from an opponent you never saw.
For closer encounters the Eva-8 feels quite powerful too, especially since you can collect a lot of ammo for it. I don't like the Mastiff that much in comparison, even if I had one game where it proved quite deadly (I was probably lucky to score many headshots, but in regular firefights I get better results with the eva)
 

TeamGhobad

Banned
wait... how do you know that?
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if he was he would have been contacted a lot sooner, and sony is fully capable of hosting without bringing in third parties. its just not done. MAYBE he's hosting the pre and after show. but on stage no chance.
 
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