Apple releasing first Public Betas of iOS 10 and macOS Sierra today

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If I backup my phone now (iOS 9.3.2), restore it to factory settings, and install iOS 10 beta, can I restore my data from the backup I made?
 
Because I can't update to the public beta for whatever reason, it fails once the download finishes every time and I'm itching to get it on my phone. I thought I'd try that because nothing else works.
 
I've got an extra 30GB of space on my HDD after installing Sierra. Not bad.

I think I'm gonna skip the iOS 10 beta and wait till the final release is out.
 
I've got an extra 30GB of space on my HDD after installing Sierra. Not bad.

I think I'm gonna skip the iOS 10 beta and wait till the final release is out.

I haven't been following too closely... What is the reason for the recovered space and is it an advertised feature?
 
Everything is running great on my iPhone 6, but for whatever reason, editing Favourite contacts is totally in the shitter. I've added my sister like three times just trying to add her once, and can't get rid of any of em from the widget.

Also the apps that were temporarily deleted to install the beta are lingering in "Waiting... " mode :( I turned the phone off and back on, but noooope.

Otherwise, it looks nice?
 
Not keen on the press home button to unlock but I guess I could get used to that.

Not sure what the hell is going on with the imessage animation stuff. Like I don't get it. And why does it send automatically. Give me the option to send or delete. I've just spammed someone practicing and trying to work out what the hell they are/do.
 
Seems like this beta fixed the graphics issues I was having with the previous version of OS X.

Thank you apple for ending any effort to fix the issue on the old OS.
 
Not keen on the press home button to unlock but I guess I could get used to that.

Not sure what the hell is going on with the imessage animation stuff. Like I don't get it. And why does it send automatically. Give me the option to send or delete. I've just spammed someone practicing and trying to work out what the hell they are/do.

It doesn't send automatically for me. There's a little X next to the text that you can hit to cancel sending animations (which don't get sent out to non-iOS 10 devices anyway). Hitting the arrow sends them.

Unless you're referring to something different.
 
my mid 2009 macbook is officially too old, wont install sierra. still runs el capitan
What about updating the hard drive with an SSD and updating the RAM to 8 GB?

The parts are probably $200 total, and the labor is easy enough to do on your own.
 
It doesn't send automatically for me. There's a little X next to the text that you can hit to cancel sending animations (which don't get sent out to non-iOS 10 devices anyway). Hitting the arrow sends them.

Unless you're referring to something different.

I'm talking about the sketch/hold/tap things. Say I sketch something out, it auto sends after like a second after I've took my finger off the screen. No idea what any of the other stuff does or how u create them. Like I said I just end up spamming people because they auto send :/
 
I haven't been following too closely... What is the reason for the recovered space and is it an advertised feature?
There's a new feature called Optomise Storage that shuffles things around and uploads stuff to iCloud so it might have been that. Pretty handy since I've only.got a 256GB hard drive in this Air.
 
Unlocking the phone is just annoying. Like if you have Touch ID on you still have to press the home button either before or after it recognises your touch. Why do that?!
 
Unlocking the phone is just annoying. Like if you have Touch ID on you still have to press the home button either before or after it recognises your touch. Why do that?!

Yeah this is really fucking stupid. It actually tempted me to remove the PIN-unlock from my phone because the touchID on my iPhone 6 just isn't fool-proof enough.
It still occasionally fucks up registering my fingers when they are greasy or damp or something.

Does re-registering my fingerprints improve that issue perhaps?
 
You have "Hey Siri" enabled by any chance?

I do, but I've had it enabled since 9.3.2. Never had a battery drain related to that.

I wonder if Siri has an audio glitch in both versions. Last night when I installed Sierra at one point Siri got locked in active mode even though the window was not visible but my audio remained muted. As if she was still talking or listening. Seems similar to this problem.

I'll have to wait for a new PB. I've reverted to 9.3.2 as 'Hey Siri' is very useful while driving.
 
I've noticed my activity widget won't update on my lock screen, but all of the other ones do. It updates just fine when I unlock the phone though. Working as intended or bug? I'm assuming bug.
 
I've noticed my activity widget won't update on my lock screen, but all of the other ones do. It updates just fine when I unlock the phone though. Working as intended or bug? I'm assuming bug.

Did you report it? ;)
 
Btw if anyone else has the problem where audio over Bluetooth pauses for no reason intermittently - turn off hey Siri. Seems to fix it!
 
Don't install iOS10 on the 5S or SE. The screen size is too small for the big and bold design choices.

Can't wait for the 2017 model when I pick up the Plus sized variant.
 
I installed Sierra, seems to be working fine. I'm liking the PiP for youtube. Being able to browse around and having the video playing in the corner is great. I have to play with Siri a bit more. Is there any list of some things you can do with the commands?
 
Does anyone know if there is an alternative to force touch for the animations in the messages app. I am on an iPhone 6.

Animations like slam? You just long press the send button, not force touch

Running into a lot of design issues in Apple Music. The damn font size is so huge that artist names sometime get cut off the screen. There's no way to go to an artist directly from a song. Can't even tap on the artist like before and go to their album. They really really need to reorganize the three dot menu. we don't need a huge ass button for like and dislike
 
Don't install iOS10 on the 5S or SE. The screen size is too small for the big and bold design choices.

Can't wait for the 2017 model when I pick up the Plus sized variant.

This has to be a bug. They need to make it adapt to the screen size
 
Don't install iOS10 on the 5S or SE. The screen size is too small for the big and bold design choices.

Can't wait for the 2017 model when I pick up the Plus sized variant.

On a 5C; no complaints other than the keyboard making unnecessary spelling corrections and some sluggishness that's to be expected with 4-year old hardware.
 
Actually I'm curious about iOS 10 on the 5C myself. When I do install it I want to start fresh. (But am not even going to think of it until I can archive the few message threads I really need to keep. -- And they're long threads too. Threads so long it would take hours of tapping the top of the screen to reach the very beginning. Only to have it reset when I sleep the phone because messages sucks with long threads. Hence why I need to export them...)

But it's about time I start fresh. All my data is practically on the cloud anyway.
 
There's a new feature called Optomise Storage that shuffles things around and uploads stuff to iCloud so it might have been that. Pretty handy since I've only.got a 256GB hard drive in this Air.
Oh yeah, that! Not a feature I'd tempt myself. I still don't fully trust the cloud, especially automatic implementations, and especially apple's.
 
The 'for you' section in Apple Music is much better than before... if only the design wasn't so terrible. I know it's beta, but I don't get how they released this with some obvious design bugs and features missing.
 
I think it's worse. Shoehorning connect at the bottom is just stupid. If they are going to keep connect they need to make it better, not hidden.

Also now with their gigantic album arts I only see four songs at a time on the entire screen lol. Terrible
 
I think it's worse. Shoehorning connect at the bottom is just stupid. If they are going to keep connect they need to make it better, not hidden.

Connect won't be around in a few years, so might as well start forgetting about it.
 
Connect won't be around in a few years, so might as well start forgetting about it.

They need to do something with the Following option instead. Like, what is the point of that? Give us a menu or something where we can easily go to followed artists. I would like to see a menu with maybe the latest release of every followed option. Quick and easy

Is anybody able to go to an album tracklisting or the artist page by clicking anywhere? I see no way to go to an artist's page
 

Before it was just a few recommended playlists/albums each day. Now it recommends latest releases for you, more albums, music you listen to on 'heavy rotation'. And the main thing I care about is that there's finally a recently played section.
 
Sierra running fine and all my apps seem to work, but it's refusing to download and install the update from the app store. Weird.
 
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