LastPadawan
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When do preorders typically go up on their site? If anyone recalls last year?
Apple September Event 2017 |OT| A Top-Notch Keynote
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I'm most likely getting an 8 and a new Apple Watch. I'm hoping that there are cheaper, non-LTE watches that will be available since I don't need cellular on my watch at all.
Broken Hope
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Should be Friday at midnight.
Wanna be my watch-buddy?
Nothing1016
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Gonna spend money I probably shouldn't on the iPhone X. Early graduation gift to myself. Finally finish college this December with a BA in Economics. Lets go boooys.
That's what I did last year and the plan doesn't change. I also have grandfathered unlimited
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh...what do watch-buddies do?
Clench their butts in anticipation, together.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........that doesn't sound good at all........
Thanks. Haven't upgraded since they got rid of the subsidized prices and went with the upgrade plans.
LyleLanley
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They better play X Gon Give It To Ya at the event.
RastaMentality
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Who's ready for a 5 minute demo on animoji?
Zeyphersan
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xXx: Return of Xander Cage
https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program
Check and make sure youre all good to upgrade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_PMOZ9bBo&feature=youtu.be
D NSFWUsing Apple Music without a phone? That's one I would assume is one of the biggest selling points. No need to bring a phone to listen to music or be limited by the internal storage of the watch.
LyleLanley
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Running outdoors without having to carry your phone would be nice. In theory I guess an LTE watch could replace your phone entirely although they'd need a new way to authenticate Apple Pay purchases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_PMOZ9bBo&feature=youtu.be
Using Apple Music without a phone? That's one I would assume is one of the biggest selling points. No need to bring a phone to listen to music or be limited by the internal storage of the watch.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Well I'm officially never going to be your watch-buddy.
Zeyphersan
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Apple Pay doesnt need your phone nearby to work, itll work offline. It just presents itself as a card and the reader is what connects to the bank for authentication.
LyleLanley
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I meant authentication as in touchID/faceID.
Ok I think I was confused thinking the monthly fee for the upgrade program WAS the financing payments for the phone when they're actually separate(?). So you're basically paying your phone off in 12 months instead of 24 and you're losing the equity of your paid off phone? I'm bad at this stuff
My bet:
The Series 3 debuts at the series 2 price, adds LTE, (maybe better water proofing or some other feature), series2 bumps down in price to replace Series 1.
It already has this, your passcode + continuously wearing it is Apple Watch authentication.
Doesn't Apple Pay on the watch work like this: you authenticate the watch to make purchases with touchID/faceID and as long as you don't take the watch off your wrist, it's authenticated to make purchases? Not sure though. Remember reading something to this effect somewhere, but I wouldn't be surprised if I had read it wrong. We don't even support Apple Pay in Finland.
Or is this even what you're talking about, cuz I am confused.
brianmcdoogle
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In order of importance to me tomorrow:
One. New Apple TV.
Two. iPhone X or high-end with Touch ID.
Three. iPhone 7S Plus with Touch ID.
One. New Apple TV.
Two. iPhone X or high-end with Touch ID.
Three. iPhone 7S Plus with Touch ID.
Zeyphersan
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I'm confused then. Why would the watch need a new authentication method with LTE?
So, the iPhone Upgrade Program is legally speaking a loan you're taking out with the bank in the amount of the full retail price of the phone plus AppleCare+. It divides this into 24 payments, one per month for two years. After 24 payments you own the phone, however after 12 payments you can turn the phone back into Apple and they will pay off the rest of that loan providing you upgrade to a new phone on the same plan with the same rules.
That's where I'm confused. I'm currently doing the 24 month financing through Citizen's One or whatever, but I am not in the upgrade program (I don't think?) So what does that mean for me? Am I just going to have to sell my iPhone 7 Plus and pay off the loan manually while financing a new one? Or can I just get "toggled" onto the upgrade program since my phone is now half paid off through Apple?
Whatever price, within reason, I'm getting it. My OG Apple Watch feels slow as fuck.
LyleLanley
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It doesn't, those were two separate thoughts. One about how an LTE watch could completely replace your phone and a second about it missing biometrics to secure Apple pay.
He means if it's used as a solitary device.
Currently, an iPhone is required for the initial setup of Apple Pay on an Apple Watch, as it required Touch ID to validate that the cards were usable on a device without Touch ID. After that, so long as you have been in range of your iPhone at SOME point while the watch was on your wrist that day to re-up that handshake agreement with the phone's Apple Pay payment card options, it will validate.
But as a solitary device without an iPhone, it can't perform that handshake. Hence the question.
Zeyphersan
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Apple Pay does not require biometrics, you can use it on an iPhone with just a passcode. It sucks, but is totally possible. Biometrics just make it easy. TouchID is not necessary for authentication for the watch.
You are paying for the retail price of the phone and AppleCare for 24 months without interest. Once you make 12 payments, you can trade in your phone for a new model, so the phone is half paid off. The stipulation is you have to give Apple your new phone and you can't resell it or trade it in for money.
Once you make all 24 payments (or paid it off early which I believe is an option), the phone is yours to do what you want with it.
Professional Enthusiast
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The X looks to be a goddamn beast, but I'll probably just end up getting an 8+ and some Beats. All this might change tomorrow when I wake up and get hype as fuck haha.
Maybe I'm in the upgrade program already then? Can you do the 24 month financing without being in it?
Tomorrow you'll be pawning your mama's jewlery to get an iPhone X.
Zeyphersan
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There's one easy way to check. Use the link I posted earlier, say "already enrolled" and enter your phone's serial number.
https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program
Not enrolled. Welp. This is sure gonna be a huge pain in the ass.
Professional Enthusiast
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Jewlery's been pawned for a few weeks.
Seriously though, i'm excited to jump into iOS for the first time.SCULLIBUNDO
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Taking calls/receiving messages while you're out exercising without your phone.
And having access to the entire Apple Music library without your phone.
For people who like to work out, it's a pretty big deal. LTE Apple Watch + AirPods make for a pretty convenient combo.
Broken Hope
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In for the X and the new Apple TV, will most likely not upgrade my series 2 Watch. I only really use it for fitness, notifications and Apple Pay and it does all of those fine.
Well the point is things that'd ordinarily require being tethered to the phone no longer requires such. Making and receiving calls and sending and receiving messages, for example.
My prediction:
Series 3 with Wi-Fi/Bluetooth only debuts at Series 2 price. Series 2 replaced Series 1 price-wise.
Series 3 with LTE for $100 or whatever more than the non-LTE model, just like with the iPads.
How did you buy your phone? If you have the Citizens One 24 month financing, that should only be available with the iphone Upgrade Plan. Apple's regular interest free financing on purchases is with a Visa Barclays card, at least in the US.
I am using the Citizen's One loan. But I'm not in the upgrade program apparently.
Zeyphersan
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Did you make a CitizensOne account to access your loan online? Should have received a letter in the mail a couple weeks after starting iUP
Did you use your phone's serial and IMEI numbers to look it up?
You should probably call Apple to check.
No. I just did everything on Apple's site. I never fucked w the Citizen's One account I just get billed on my CC.
Yeah it auto populated it in my Apple Store app.
Zeyphersan
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Hm..... did you get your phone replaced at all? Genius bar or otherwise?
No. I haven't done anything at all.
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