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[Moreche]

Uh... have you been getting charged for it this entire year?

When you try and get a new phone it asks you if you want to enroll or if you already are. If you say you already are that’s when it asks your for the serial/IMEI. If you say you want to enroll it doesn’t

I haven't been getting charged as Barclays cancelled the agreement but it still asks for serial/IMEA. It seems that when you return your phone, it doesn't cancel the IUP.
I'll have to get in contact with Apple but I've a feeling they'll point me towards the retail store.

 

[Dougald]

Who needs Apple Pay, really? They already missed the boat in most of the world. I pay wirelessly anywhere and I don't even need to pull out my phone and put my sensitive data on it to do so.

I use it often on my motorcycle as its hard to dig around in bike gear for a wallet and withdraw a contactless card as opposed to a phone. Of course if they require face auth and never bring back TouchID I suppose I'll just ditch it for regular contactless again

It's also useful as I record all purchases to a budget, and having all transaction amounts on my phone is handier than reading through a bunch of receipts. But I realise both of these are pretty specific use-cases - if you don't have a budget and aren't walking around in power ranger armour, it's just as easy to dig out your credit card and tap it.

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

Paying for things with my watch is easier than getting my card out my pocket, so I love Apple Pay

How does iPhone Upgrade Programme work in the UK; do we have to go to an Apple Store? Can't just do it online?

 

[Red]

That's like $50 more than the 7 Plus which a fuckload of people bought. I don't see what everyone's freaking out about

It's almost $250 more. The price has increased by 1/3.

 

[Aiii]

Point is that at this point they're already too late in many markets. Once you're used to doing it one way, it's done.

I have my card in a minimalist wallet, it takes more effort to pull out my phone and use touch id then it does to just put my card to the machine at this point.

 

[Ryaaan14]

It's almost $250 more. The price has increased by 1/3.

My 128GB 7 Plus was $950. What

 

[Zeyphersan]

I haven't been getting charged as Barclays cancelled the agreement but it still asks for serial/IMEA. It seems that when you return your phone, it doesn't cancel the IUP.
I'll have to get in contact with Apple but I've a feeling they'll point me towards the retail store.

Ah, Barclays, you’re in the UK. Yeah you’ll want to contact Apple, I only have experience with the program in the US and I know there are some differences

 

[LyleLanley]

My 128GB 7 Plus was $950. What

The base model 7+ starts at $769, presumably the X will start at $1000.

 

[Red]

My 128GB 7 Plus was $950. What

Entry price.

 

[mrkgoo]

I have apple pay, but I tend to use my contactless card. I know a whole lot of people in US say it's slow, butcher I'm at it's like a second or two. It's easy.

watch is cool, but no different really, aside from the potential slight increase in security (not sharing credit card number with merchant).

 

[Aiii]

The base model 7+ starts at $769, presumably the X will start at $1000.

And yes, it's a valid comparison to compare entry prices even if the memory is bigger. In the streaming world, all that extra memory is gonna do me is increase the empty space on my phone storage.

 

[Daffy Duck]

So is the iPhone 8 the iPhone x, or is the 8 replacing the normal S model?

 

[Zeyphersan]

I have apple pay, but I tend to use my contactless card. I know a whole lot of people in US say it's slow, butcher I'm at it's like a second or two. It's easy.

watch is cool, but no different really, aside from the potential slight increase in security (not sharing credit card number with merchant).

It’s slow in the US because retailers are shit with shit machines. It’s not even contactless, it’s just sticking the chip into the reader for what feels like forever. With actual contactless/NFC Payment it takes like two seconds

I would also consider not sharing the credit card number to be a huge benefit seeing as I had to cancel a card TODAY because someone jacked the number and started using it.

 

[Green Yoshi]

Will they ever bother to improve the working conditions for people that manufacture the iPhones in China?

 

[LyleLanley]

Will they ever bother to improve the working conditions for people that manufacture the iPhones in China?

Rumor is that Cook is going to announce that Apple intends to make conditions even worse for factory workers.

 

[mrkgoo]

It's slow in the US because retailers are shit with shit machines. It's not even contactless, it's just sticking the chip into the reader for what feels like forever. With actual contactless/NFC Payment it takes like two seconds

I would also consider not sharing the credit card number to be a huge benefit seeing as I had to cancel a card TODAY because someone jacked the number and started using it.

Oh wait, your explanation has reminded me - -I'm totally wrong. what I MEANT was US people complained about chip and pin.

Here chip and pin is just as fast. Stick it in, put pin, and the actual transaction is fast. Contactless is faster, but only because you don't need to stick a card inside anything, and no pin. I remember people complain it took like 15 seconds or something.

and yeah, I guess the number thing would be a good thing - I just wonder how many contactless terminals are jacking numbers. I just don't know.

 

[Aiii]

Oh wait, your explanation has reminded me - -I'm totally wrong. what I MEANT was US people complained about chip and pin.

Here chip and pin is just as fast. Stick it in, put pin, and the actual transaction is fast. Contactless is faster, but only because you don't need to stick a card inside anything, and no pin. I remember people complain it took like 15 seconds or something.

Takes like 3 seconds tops in The Netherlands. Probably even less than that, tbh.

 

[Green Yoshi]

Rumor is that Cook is going to announce that Apple intends to make conditions even worse for factory workers.

His wording would certainly be different but I guess shareholders would be happy with your words, too. ;-)

 

[ReplacementPelican]

Who needs Apple Pay, really? They already missed the boat in most of the world. I pay wirelessly anywhere and I don't even need to pull out my phone and put my sensitive data on it to do so.

I prefer it to my contactless card. My contactless has a £50 limit, I think and a higher daily limit so if I take that out of the house and lose it somebody could use it. They can't use my phone because they'd need by fingerprint. Make me feel safer and all that information is already on my iPhone anyway.

Though if you've got a reason why it isn't safe, I'd love to hear it.

 

[Martin5000]

Takes like 3 seconds tops in The Netherlands. Probably even less than that, tbh.

One reason, I want apple pay. I don't trust the merchants here.
When you use your CC contactless, the store will get your data.
With apple pay they only get a token and I trust apple more than german stores ...

 

[Vuze]

One reason, I want apple pay. I don't trust the merchants here.
When you use your CC contactless, the store will get your data.
With apple pay they only get a token and I trust apple more than the german stores ...

Yeah same, I don't really have much confidence in their solutions. Most seem like a quick acquisition or rush job to "compete" with the likes of PayPal and Apple Pay just to keep margins higher / earn the applicable fees themselves. #Neuland

 

[Roo]

So is the iPhone 8 the iPhone x, or is the 8 replacing the normal S model?

iPhone 8 will replace the S model. iPhone X will be their flagship phone this year.

 

[Dougald]

Yeah same, I don't really have much confidence in their solutions. Most seem like a quick acquisition or rush job to "compete" with the likes of PayPal and Apple Pay just to keep margins higher / earn the applicable fees themselves. #Neuland

Contactless credit cards predate the iPhone itself, so I wouldn't say it was a rush job. I do agree that Apple Pays tokenisation is preferable though.

 

[Damon]

Paying for things with my watch is easier than getting my card out my pocket, so I love Apple Pay

How does iPhone Upgrade Programme work in the UK; do we have to go to an Apple Store? Can't just do it online?

Yep you have go in store.
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program

Usually you'll make a reservation online and then they'll run a credit check on you instore and then your good to go.

Im curious though about the monthly upgrade plan price though.

The 256GB 7 is £43.45 /mo, so god knows what the base X will cost.

 

[Daffy Duck]

iPhone 8 will replace the S model. iPhone X will be their flagship phone this year.

Thanks, it got confusing as I've seen mention of the 7S and the X and the 8.

 

[kiguel182]

Always love a tech press conference, can't wait!

The only product I might get is an Apple Watch (my iPhone SE is treating me well) but I'm in to see what this iPhone Jesus is all about. Altought the leaks already revealed a ton of stuff so it's less exciting I guess.

Edit: Apple Pay in my country would be cool but not holding my breath. We are really behind on contactless payment compared to other EU countries.

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

Yep you have go in store.
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program

Usually you'll make a reservation online and then they'll run a credit check on you instore and then your good to go.

Im curious though about the monthly upgrade plan price though.

The 256GB 7 is £43.45 /mo, so god knows what the base X will cost.

I usually buy yearly outright but seeing as I’ll certainoy want AppleCare plus on this I may as well do the upgrade plan. Annoying having to travel though.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Aw no HomePod updates?

 

[Souless_PJ]

Store is down.

HYPPPEEEEEE

In for an X and Apple TV.

 

[Haloid1177]

Thank god work took over paying for my phone this year. I'd be way more disgusted with myself if I was paying the full price for this thing.

 

[ASTROID2]

Store is down.

HYPPPEEEEEE

In for an X and Apple TV.

Omg so hype!

 

[Jo Shishido's Cheeks]

128GB minimum would be wild.
I have everything stored in iCloud and stream all media so I’m taking up only 19GB of space* on my current phone.

(*i do have 200GB of cloud space though)

 

[Mr. Badger]

I have a 7 (as a work phone)- and really dislike the home button.
I have a Pixel XL as a personal phone.

Considering going to one phone only, if the X is decent and really not £1000.
Would love a (home) buttonless iPhone.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

I’ll likely be trying to get an X for me through the upgrade program, and an 8+ for the wife (starting her on the upgrade program).

Going to be a rough 3AM morning when pre orders go live.

 

[mrklaw]

Yep you have go in store.
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program

Usually you'll make a reservation online and then they'll run a credit check on you instore and then your good to go.

Im curious though about the monthly upgrade plan price though.

The 256GB 7 is £43.45 /mo, so god knows what the base X will cost.

so does that mean a reservation as in 'book a genius type appointment', or literally reserve the phone online for store pickup, and convert into an upgrade plan when you get there? If the second one then I might try that. Otherwise it'll go on a 0% credit card I think.

 

[Niven]

When are they expected to go on sale?

 

[Red]

I wonder if Apple is going to retain the $1000 price if, as is expected, the line adopts a full screen design next year. This could be the last year iPhones cost as little as $650/$750.

 

[AllGamer]

When are they expected to go on sale?

September 22 (probably). Preorder starts this Friday.

 

[Nihilistic Monk]

With the X potentially going over the £1000/$1000 mark is that putting people off this year? Is it too much to pay out for a phone?

I don't think the price is that much of an issue. There'll be several stories about the price being eyewatering and then it'll still exceed sales expectations. That said, I am an apple die hard and I must admit the rumoured price at least made me go and look at Galaxy S8 / Note 8 prices for comparison. I'm too in the ecosystem to shift, but this is the first year I've even wanted to take Android into consideration.

What I'm mostly sick of with Apple is the entire buying experience. Pre-ordering is going to be savage. If the rumours of the yields they're getting are true as well, then these are going to be out of stock and not be available for a good while.

This is going to make AirPods and the SNES classic look easy to get. Two buying experiences I've been exposed to this year that have thoroughly fucked me off.

I've got the money set aside for one, but my 7 seems just fine and the more I think of the pre-order stress, the more I think I just can't be arsed...

Spoiler

Check in with me 8pm GMT for my possible heel turn

 

[Vuze]

This is going to make AirPods and the SNES classic look easy to get. Two buying experiences I've been exposed to this year that have thoroughly fucked me off.

If it's anything like AirPods, it would be perfectly fine for me. I ordered like 15-20min after they popped up on the store and still got mine with the first shipment. iPhone X situation will surely be different.

I wonder if Apple is going to retain the $1000 price if, as is expected, the line adopts a full screen design next year. This could be the last year iPhones cost as little as $650/$750.

Nahhhh. They'll probably increase starting prices next year, seems overdue (if the Bloomberg graph from yesterday is correct, they have had the same starting price now since iPhone 4S except for the 7S Plus bump in comaprison to 6S Plus). Samsung has outpriced them since the S6.

 

[Sec0nd]

Honestly really excited for tonight. I always love me a good Apple conference. But in all honesty, all the recent conferences have been pretty boring. You can't expect a company to reinvent a market they invented in the first place every year. Yet you still hope for it. All the recent years have been iterations on the products and tech. But it feels like Apple is aiming to shake things up a bit.

Really interested in seeing if the X will be an inspired move, or yet another changeup for the sake of forced innovation.

 

[Pineapple]

Honestly really excited for tonight. I always love me a good Apple conference. But in all honesty, all the recent conferences have been pretty boring.

I don't know if I would call them boring, but I get what you're saying.

I think today though that will change somewhat with the iPhone X. It looks like it's going to be a huge leap forward in terms of technology and design.

 

[Martinski43]

How does the upgrade thing work? Is it even possible in Sweden? I have an iPhone 7 that i bought a few weeks after the release last year. I bought it without contract full price that is.

Got Apple Care+ with it as well. Or can you only upgrade to next model with that subsription model in the US and UK?

 

[Vuze]

How does the upgrade thing work? Is it even possible in Sweden? I have an iPhone 7 that i bought a few weeks after the release last year. I bought it without contract full price that is.

Got Apple Care+ with it as well. Or can you only upgrade to next model with that subsription model in the US and UK?

This is only for the iPhone Upgrade program, yes

 

[ChazGW7]

I don't think the price is that much of an issue. There'll be several stories about the price being eyewatering and then it'll still exceed sales expectations. That said, I am an apple die hard and I must admit the rumoured price at least made me go and look at Galaxy S8 / Note 8 prices for comparison. I'm too in the ecosystem to shift, but this is the first year I've even wanted to take Android into consideration.

What I'm mostly sick of with Apple is the entire buying experience. Pre-ordering is going to be savage. If the rumours of the yields they're getting are true as well, then these are going to be out of stock and not be available for a good while.

This is going to make AirPods and the SNES classic look easy to get. Two buying experiences I've been exposed to this year that have thoroughly fucked me off.

I've got the money set aside for one, but my 7 seems just fine and the more I think of the pre-order stress, the more I think I just can't be arsed...

Spoiler

Check in with me 8pm GMT for my possible heel turn

I'm with you dude, whilst September is a hype month for new iPhones, it's also the fucking worst because of pre order hell then the following chaos of trying to actually get one.

 

[Red]

Honestly really excited for tonight. I always love me a good Apple conference. But in all honesty, all the recent conferences have been pretty boring. You can't expect a company to reinvent a market they invented in the first place every year. Yet you still hope for it. All the recent years have been iterations on the products and tech. But it feels like Apple is aiming to shake things up a bit.

Really interested in seeing if the X will be an inspired move, or yet another changeup for the sake of forced innovation.

I'm excited too. Other companies have grown in influence the past couple of years, but Apple's conferences still serve as a glimpse forward at the next year of the mobile industry.

 

[kaskade]

This is definitely the first conference I’ve been really excited for. I know the X is gonna be supply constrained but I really hope it’s not as bad as we say. This has been a rumored phone for a while now so to not be able to get it for months is going to suck, especially since I have the upgrade program so any extra time paying for this phone is losing me money.

 

[acheron_xl]

Big cycle on my end. Have a 6+ that's itching to get replaced (longest I've used a single phone), and with the right price on an LTE Watch, I might go with that plus a Note 8. Or maybe a new SE if it makes an appearance and looks good. After 8 years with an iPhone, I'm starting to chafe.

 

[hirokazu]

Sorry, you're correct. "TouchID" has been used in place of the "secure element" erroneously. That is what is required to authenticate Apple Pay on Apple Watch upon first setup, along with a camera (as it will not set up an unknown card without a photograph of it, for obvious reasons) or an iTunes account activated on the phone with a listed card on file and its CVV number. The initial loading of the cards onto the Apple Watch still requires an iPhone that can properly communicate to the watch's secure element.

The camera step is just a shortcut to typing all the numbers in. You can skip it and enter the card details manually.

 

[Blackhead]

Big cycle on my end. Have a 6+ that's itching to get replaced, and with the right price on an LTE Watch, I might go with that plus a Note 8. Or maybe a new SE if it makes an appearance and looks good. After 8 years with an iPhone, I'm starting to chafe.

Same. I'm so hyped for the LTE Watch