Apple Special Event - 9.9.14 - "Wish we could say more"

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It has a metallic blue tint when you look at it in the light. The 5 and the original iPad mini had this color. It's beautiful. Tilt the device and let the light shine off it and you see a lovely metallic blue tint. I miss that color. I wish they made their computers with that color.

Then again, it was also the model that had a tendency to rub off so I guess that's why they dropped it.
Yup it does, I have a first gen 64gb ipad mini, and it's indeed beautiful, it makes me sad that we might never get an iDevice on that color again :(
 
Apple is not going to release a phone that they can not honestly say has all day battery life IMO.
I. . . Is this a serious opinion? iPhone batteries, like a lot of major players in the smartphone market, aren't anything to write home about.
 
Bigger isn't always better. Especially if it is bigger weight. Do you complain about the iPad Air's switch to more energy efficient screens and processors and a lighter battery? They could've kept the battery in there and have it last longer than the iPad 2-4. Why not both?

I'm not sure I understand. I (thought explicitly) said I want both!
 
I. . . Is this a serious opinion? iPhone batteries, like a lot of major players in the smartphone market, aren't anything to write home about.

I think the key here is that they want a phone they can claim has all day battery life.
 
I. . . Is this a serious opinion? iPhone batteries, like a lot of major players in the smartphone market, aren't anything to write home about.

Yup... It says 10 hours on their website... Been like that for many many iPhones... I don't believe they'll release a new one that lasts less than 10 hours ...
 
I'm not sure I understand. I (thought explicitly) said I want both!
It's not voodoo to suggest that bigger is not always better. There are trade offs, including weight. Many people do prefer lighter machines to heavier machines.
 
Yup it does, I have a first gen 64gb ipad mini, and it's indeed beautiful, it makes me sad that we might never get an iDevice on that color again :(
Yep. Which is why I'm definitely getting a case with my 6. A 6 in that black color would make me keep the case off. I feel so bad keeping my iPad mini in a case. I don't get to see the back color. But the company was awesome enough to give the black plastic it's made of the same blue tint. It makes up for it. I'd keep my iPad nude but I'd rather take less of a chance with a large screened device than a tiny phone.
 
Wait is killing me now (even tho I'm in a tier 2 country and will probably have to wait longer).

Sporting the 4s here and while its fine, the battery really sucks. Also everyone here carries around battery packs its insane.
 
One more full day, then the real wait for the release. I'm almost just as excited to switch over to verizon so I can have good service where I live. No more 2g for me.
 
So is the iwatch the new phone? No one will have a phone but everyone will have an iwatch? I'm for that. I'd rather have something on my wrist than in my pocket.

I hope that you don't need to have your iPhone in your pocket to get calls on your iWearable whatever its going to be called... Apple seems to be moving in that direction with Yosemite and iOS8 too.
 
I hope that you don't need to have your iPhone in your pocket to get calls on your iWearable whatever its going to be called... Apple seems to be moving in that direction with Yosemite and iOS8 too.
How else would it work?

Just setup your Apple ID and confirm?
 
I think this is pretty interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if the 5.5" worked like that in landscape. It's a shame that 5.5" is what a consider beyond stupid-sized yet it's getting cool things that the 4.7" isn't getting. :/
http://9to5mac.com/2014/09/07/5-5-i...pps-with-more-productive-ipad-like-interface/

One thing the 9to5Mac people didn't point out, though is that this new landscape UI may actually be designed for whenever they allow two apps to run simultaneously on iPad, rather than for 5.5" iPhone (although realistically, it was probably designed for both purposes).

Did you know that symmetry is often considered a bad thing for designers? Our minds reject it as unnatural, so it's often beneficial to strive for asymmetrical elements.

Obviously phone designs tend to be symmetrical, and I don't think they moved the headphone jack to create asymmetry or anything... But when you say "it's not symmetrical" as if it's a bad thing, I don't think trained designers would agree.
All I said was that didn't sit well with me for a while! Obviously there are things that are pleasing to be symmetrical and some things that aren't. The base looked good to me symmetrical. Not saying I was right or wrong!
 
I hope that you don't need to have your iPhone in your pocket to get calls on your iWearable whatever its going to be called... Apple seems to be moving in that direction with Yosemite and iOS8 too.
Well the call transfer thing uses Wi-Fi for all the other iOS devices for now, so I'm not sure if they'll have it transfer to the watch except over Wi-Fi, at least not initially.
 
I think this is pretty interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if the 5.5" worked like that in landscape. It's a shame that 5.5" is what a consider beyond stupid-sized yet it's getting cool things that the 4.7" isn't getting. :/
http://9to5mac.com/2014/09/07/5-5-i...pps-with-more-productive-ipad-like-interface/

One thing the 9to5Mac people didn't point out, though is that this new landscape UI may actually be designed for whenever they allow two apps to run simultaneously on iPad, rather than for 5.5" iPhone (although realistically, it was probably designed for both purposes).

If this is the case, I would probably get the fatty just for productivity purposes.
 
Tomorrow is going to be great: I finally will get to see how my new 4.7 looks like and while I wait I will get my hands on iOS 8. Nice :D
 
Tomorrow is going to be great: I finally will get to see how my new 4.7 looks like and while I wait I will get my hands on iOS 8. Nice :D
I get way too excited for OS updates.

No one I know gives a crap but I'm always pumped up for them. iOS updates, Windows updates, Steam updates, whatever.
 
Yeah, iOS updates are great. I think it's one of the differences between Apple and Android discussion - with Apple you essentially get one phone a year and the OS update is tied to that release, so there's months of discussion of new features, speculation about hardware, etc. With Android there's new phones every couple of weeks, so there's less of a "wait for the next phone, then everyone buy one at once" sort of mentality, and with the fragmentation and not all handsets getting updates the OS features tend to get lost in the mix.
 
I'm sure there will be a video tomorrow but can anyone name some 'must have' things in iOS8? Currently jailbroken on 7 so not sure about updating.
 
Maybe this was answered before but i can remember the time i got my iphone 5 i had to wait some time before most apps supported the resolution of the 5, is this gonna be the same story? i have to wait like 6 months before most apps are fullscreen on the iphone 6? or can the apps just scale resolution on the fly now?
 
Ok predictions. Nothing really out there:

iPhone 6
- as leaked
- 4.7 and 5.5 versions, resolutions as rumoured by Gruber
- 1 GB RAM
- More content on screen
- no sapphire screen on at least one model
- mobile NFC payments - compatible with existing Visa Paywave and Mastercard Pass(?) systems (currently widely adopted in UK, probably other countries)
- OIS on 5.5" camera only
- 5.5 inch software enhancements as rumoured (landscape ipad-ish apps)

Wearable
- iOS compatible only
- at least two different products
- band and watch
- limited battery life for watch <=24 hours
- NFC for mobile payments
- Wide price range dependent on materials and design of straps, casing, screen size etc.
- Health sensors with 1st gen caveats on accuracy and reliability
- Watch other main functions - siri, notifications, continuity, passbook
- Athlete and celebrity endorsements marketing strategy

iCloud
- increased security model - enforced 2 factor auth with touch ID authenticator app for iphone
- I would have said roaming health data - but probably has been pushed back
 
Do people think that there'll be a range of different wearables then? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times, but it doesn't seem very Apple-like to release a bunch of different 1st Gen products at once, usually they're all about "this is the best way to do things so get on board". I certainly don't think there's going to be much variation on the body of an iWatch, too much work for developers to design for different screen sizes etc. More likely they've worked out which works best for them and will be mass producing it. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having options, but it's not like Apple to hedge their bets, it makes them look unsure of what's best.
 
Yeah, iOS updates are great. I think it's one of the differences between Apple and Android discussion - with Apple you essentially get one phone a year and the OS update is tied to that release, so there's months of discussion of new features, speculation about hardware, etc. With Android there's new phones every couple of weeks, so there's less of a "wait for the next phone, then everyone buy one at once" sort of mentality, and with the fragmentation and not all handsets getting updates the OS features tend to get lost in the mix.
Plus you get officially supported through updates much longer than any android device (yes even nexus, they are only guaranteed for up to 18 months i think). The iphone 4 received updates for 4 years and got it's last update this year for ios 7.1, which it ran great on, had to get rid of mine for a moto g 4g since the battery wasnt so great anymore though. That was a crazy level of support.
 
How else would it work?

Just setup your Apple ID and confirm?


It could work like a second phone with 3G or LTE. You could answer a quick call on your wrist.

There are smart watches that claim they will be able to do that...



Well the call transfer thing uses Wi-Fi for all the other iOS devices for now, so I'm not sure if they'll have it transfer to the watch except over Wi-Fi, at least not initially.

Wifi initially would still be good. I wonder if it will work over my companies huge ultra secure wifi network...
 
It could work like a second phone with 3G or LTE. You could answer a quick call on your wrist.

There are smart watches that claim they will be able to do that...





Wifi initially would still be good. I wonder if it will work over my companies huge ultra secure wifi network...

Do you really think they'll put a 3G radio in it?
 
Do people think that there'll be a range of different wearables then? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times, but it doesn't seem very Apple-like to release a bunch of different 1st Gen products at once, usually they're all about "this is the best way to do things so get on board". I certainly don't think there's going to be much variation on the body of an iWatch, too much work for developers to design for different screen sizes etc. More likely they've worked out which works best for them and will be mass producing it. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having options, but it's not like Apple to hedge their bets, it makes them look unsure of what's best.
I'm expecting two sizes. Apple haven't made anything like this before - it's quite different to a portable/pocketable device. But even with those, I'm sure you'd see some clear trends in the sales between male and female when there are size options, i.e. the smaller MacBooks/iPods/iPads being more popular with females (on average). Of course every Apple product is unisex, but there are practical reasons why smaller versions would be preferred by women in many cases. While it's true that the first gen doesn't typically get two sizes, almost all Apple's products now come in multiple sizes, and iPhone is one of the last to receive that treatment.

With wearables this goes a step further, with the average wrist size being smaller on a female, and because there is a significant variation in wrist size within males and females, as well as by country. If they really want to knock it out of the park (unlike everyone else who's tried so far), it needs to be something that the vast majority of males and females across the planet would like to wear. It doesn't matter how useful it is, it will be seen as a fashion accessory, more so than any previous Apple device. This is a daunting task, and I don't believe it can be achieved with a single model, no matter how many wrist-strap variations you can offer. The vast majority of desirable watches have male and female sizes - most jewellers even label them as 'gents' and 'ladies' watches. I expect Apple to make two sizes but not label them in this way, as they could be designed so that both sizes appeal to both sexes, just like the two upcoming iPhones.

The counter-argument is that you see plenty of women using massive phones, and there are many deliberately-oversized timepieces designed to appeal to women, but I'm talking about averages here. It's also not that feasible to make a smart watch as small as a lot of 'ladies' watches - they are often deliberately tiny and we're expecting battery life to be a problem already. If they couldn't make a smaller version small enough, they might have given up on the two size idea early on. But I reckon to do it properly, it needs two sizes, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is what has caused the delay (i.e. every feature/spec had to work on the smaller design).
 
I assumed its because they realised that Spotify is the future and that Beats Radio was a capable competitor they could purchase to prevent iTunes going the way of the CD.
Are they using that Beats library to make the selection in iTunes Radio better, or just keeping them separate and keeping Beats Music its own thing? I'd like iTunes Radio to get better since I'm a match subscriber and I just found out streaming is data-free on T-Mobile now...
 
Yeah, iOS updates are great. I think it's one of the differences between Apple and Android discussion - with Apple you essentially get one phone a year and the OS update is tied to that release, so there's months of discussion of new features, speculation about hardware, etc. With Android there's new phones every couple of weeks, so there's less of a "wait for the next phone, then everyone buy one at once" sort of mentality, and with the fragmentation and not all handsets getting updates the OS features tend to get lost in the mix.
Fragmentation isn't really an issue anymore with Android. Everything important is updated through Google play services so you can't really compare it like that anymore. iOS 8 is going to be great though. Can't wait, many features that should've been there long ago that Android has had for years now.
 
Fragmentation isn't really an issue anymore with Android. Everything important is updated through Google play services so you can't really compare it like that anymore. iOS 8 is going to be great though. Can't wait, many features that should've been there long ago that Android has had for years now.

Many features that Android still doesn't have and won't have anytime soon too.
 
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Fragmentation isn't really an issue anymore with Android. Everything important is updated through Google play services so you can't really compare it like that anymore.

Really? So you're no longer reliant on your carrier providing OS updates? That's largely why I moved away from Android after a couple of years. I'm probably too deep into the iOS economy now to switch back though.
 
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