Apple 'Special Event' on September 7th

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Tortfeasor said:
iPod nano 4GB - Black
Part Number: MA107LL/A
Estimated ship: 1-3 business days
Delivered within 5 business days after shipping 1 $229.00 $229.00

I am a sucker... I can't help myself. Impressions when it arrives next week!
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How are you getting it for 230? Student discount? How do you get that?
 
Love this. The wife knows I want an iPod ever since I bought her a Mini, so this should do it.

And a big FUCK YOU to Apple Australia for no longer allowing student discounts on the ipod line... :(
 
Hero said:
How are you getting it for 230? Student discount? How do you get that?
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When you go to the apple store web page click on the education store link and follow the prompts. Apple discounts almost everything for students or educators.
 
Gazunta said:
Love this. The wife knows I want an iPod ever since I bought her a Mini, so this should do it.

And a big FUCK YOU to Apple Australia for no longer allowing student discounts on the ipod line... :(
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i'm on the education site now and it is still showing a discount - you sure?
 
Guess who showed up at the Apple event?

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with as small as the nano is, I wouldn't expect to see larger capacities until you can increase the capacity of a flash chip. obviously 5, 6 and 8 GB nanos will be next, though at this point I would imagine this is all we're seeing until christmas.
 
nas said:
Does this have the same dock connector as the 20? And will you be able to use the camera connector with it?
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If you can't, deal breaker for me. I want to use this as a photo storage solution. Hopefully theyll come out with a smaller one tho.
 
Fowler said:
Stick a fork in the Mini, it's done.

The Nano is fantastic. People loved the Mini because it was smaller than an iPod, but really it wasn't THAT much smaller... whereas the Nano is.

borghe is right -- the Mini was successful because it hit an audience that either didn't have that many songs or didn't want to carry that many songs (something that Apple is trying to capitalise on further with the Shuffle), and the Nano will only take it further.

I know the old argument: For $50 more than a Mini/Nano, you get a full-sized iPod with five times the capacity. But with the Mini, people never saw it that way. They figured they didn't need the extra space, liked the smaller player, and they save $50.

The phone, however, is crap. It needed a distinctive, RAZR-esque look to stand out -- because it doesn't stand out at all. This is supposed to be some sort of signature, flagship phone, but it looks like a run-of-the-mill Motorola. Also, while it's nice that they're copying (most) of the iPod interface, the menu system alone isn't what made the iPod so easy to use. The wheel was really what made the iPod's UI so innovative, and that's missing from this phone (though to be honest, with a 100 song limit...).
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The Nano is perfect for me for these reasons alone. I have been holding out on Ipod for awhile but the Nano is my breaking point and I'm giving in. I may only get the 2GB model but perhaps splurge a little more on the 4gb model since it is only 50 bucks more. I don't need 20gig hdd space. 4GB will be more than enough. :) This thing will be hot to take to the gym with me.
 
nas said:
Does this have the same dock connector as the 20? And will you be able to use the camera connector with it?
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exact same dock connector. compatible with every dock accessory the mini and ipod photo are.
 
mrkgoo said:
Just wanted some tech info regarding Mac updates(seeing as Quicktime 7.0.2 and iTunes5 were also released as well).

I know about combo updates and point releases for MacOS in taht you need to get each point release, or the combo if you're missing some. But what about applications such as iPhoto (5.0.1-5.0.4) and Quicktime?

Are teh packages I get actually 'combo' updaters? Can I use the package I downloaded from upgrading 7.0.1 to 7.0.2 on a 7.0.0? Do all point release for applications include all the updates for the previous ones?

On that note, I'm still undecided about the look of iTunes5 - for the most part, I think it's really good, but it's inconsistent witht eh rest of MacOSX - I don't mind the disappearance of the brushed metal (that look is slowly getting old hat), but the squared corners of the window is really quite different for Apple.
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Little help?
 
mrkgoo said:
Little help?
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I'm not completely sure about your package question, but if you click on the apple in the far upper left of the screen, and then select software update, the mac will do all the work as to what new updates your computer needs.
 
Dear fucking god... So small, full regular iPod features and functions, and flash based? So long shuffle (am I becoming an iPod whore now?) If it has the superior audio of the shuffle (and since it's also flash based, then perhaps there's an even greater chance of that) then the black one is mine.
 
Small black Ipod...*drools*

Hopefully the black one comes with black headphones. I wouldn't wear the white ones in public.
 
Hmmm... According to Ipod Lounge, the sound quality is similar to the non-shuffle iPods in that it has the weak bass. That's dissapointing, but I think I'll still get one. Four gigs of flash with normal iPod features is too good to pass up. I almost never take my HDD player outside anymore because of how easily it can skip.
 
sportzhead said:
I'm not completely sure about your package question, but if you click on the apple in the far upper left of the screen, and then select software update, the mac will do all the work as to what new updates your computer needs.
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Yup, I know about that, but I typically keep the packages so I can update other computers without having to download it again - and was wondering if the new updates included all the info from the previous ones so I could use it on a computer that had an earlier version. (or delete earlier packages that are redundant).
 
Kurashima said:
Hmmm... According to Ipod Lounge, the sound quality is similar to the non-shuffle iPods in that it has the weak bass. That's dissapointing, but I think I'll still get one. Four gigs of flash with normal iPod features is too good to pass up. I almost never take my HDD player outside anymore because of how easily it can skip.
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Weak bass, I can live with, but I wouldn't buy another iPod until Apple works out that treble/sibilance issue when using even semi-good headphones.
 
Nano makes the existance of shuffle so damn illogical.... Nano spits in the face of the shuffle! *PTHEWI!*

The snuffing of Mini is a bit illogical as well though. Really, iPod as a music player should be only slightly bigger than the Mini, with about 30GB capacity max. And the "regular" sized iPod should go away as a music only player, and later resurface a smidgen bigger as a PMP (the "video pod") with at least 320x240 screen that's minimum of 2.8" diagonal and starting with a 40GB HDD.

Anyways, the Nano is the best iPod by far, and only thing that it really needs is to make it perfect as a music player in my mind is bigger capacity (which is guarenteed in the next rev), drag and drop/appear as removable drive in windows and OSX (Yeah I'm dreaming), and FM tuner and built in encoder (both of which Jobs is seemingly determined to never add).
 
Shog, you've been working on your accessory for the past 4 years...

...I smell a flop... ;)

FYI: With Podcasts SUCCEEDING... there is no longer a need for an FM tuner on the iPod what-so-ever.
 
Shogmaster said:
drag and drop/appear as removable drive in windows and OSX
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Every iPod is capable of this. The reason it requires iTunes or other management software for music management is because Apple's philosophy is that it should reflect your music collection exactly. Drag 'n' drop is pointless, there's enough space for all the music, why nut just put it there? Don't like it? Swing iTunes into manual and select what you'd like copied over.

You underestimate how many people just prefer a GUI and automagic functionality, Shog. If you don't like it, well, there are plenty of other players out there.
 
Apple Jax said:
Shog, you've been working on your accessory for the past 4 years...

...I smell a flop... ;)
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I wish I've been working on it for 4 years. I only started working on it from right after the last CES (in January). Had the idea a few months before.

I tried patent application myself, but the cost for it has ballooned out of control. I already spent couple of grand towards this, but it seems it's gonna cost well above 10 grand to do it properly (and even then, no guarentee that the patent will be granted).

So I'm looking for venture capital now. I'm currently getting a presentation together to show to VCs. I have one VC liason lined up, but I'm sure that it I won't be able to close something like this with the first shot. I need to line up many more potential VCs for this, but I've never sold anything to anyone on this scale before (convincing millions of dollars out of folks. The best I've managed was tens of thousands).

Whatever the outcome, this should be an interesting ride. :lol

FYI: With Podcasts SUCCEEDING... there is no longer a need for an FM tuner on the iPod what-so-ever.
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That's so BS. Downloading Podcasts is NOT realtime radio. It's stupid as saying having Bit-torrant installed on your computer makes owning a TV tuner or having a cable service moot. Podcasts, like BT, does not give you access to all the programing available to you with tuners. And it's a delayed service if you care about listening to the programming immediately (say sports).

Podcasting is Podcasting. It's not a replacement for a damn tuner!




xsarien said:
Every iPod is capable of this. The reason it requires iTunes or other management software for music management is because Apple's philosophy is that it should reflect your music collection exactly. Drag 'n' drop is pointless, there's enough space for all the music, why nut just put it there? Don't like it? Swing iTunes into manual and select what you'd like copied over.

You underestimate how many people just prefer a GUI and automagic functionality, Shog. If you don't like it, well, there are plenty of other players out there.
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I know. I use FooPod for this purpose with my sacrificial Minis (one already in pieces with soldering wounds).
 
Just ordered a black 4GB model.

I swore I wouldn't get an iPod until video iPods came out, but that thing is way too awesome for me to resist.
 
I've never understood people going nuts over FM tuners in MP3 players...If you want portable radio, you need something like the Sangean DT-200V. If I want music or podcasts I use my iPod. If I want AM, FM, or TV sound I use the Sangean. Why settle for just FM when you can have excellent AM reception too?
 
Anthropic said:
I've never understood people going nuts over FM tuners in MP3 players...If you want portable radio, you need something like the Sangean DT-200V. If I want music or podcasts I use my iPod. If I want AM, FM, or TV sound I use the Sangean. Why settle for just FM when you can have excellent AM reception too?
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The point is, something expensive like iPod should be a complete portable music device. Why should you carry two music gadget thingies in your pocket if you want radio as well? That's just stupid.
 
Shogmaster said:
The point is, something expensive like iPod should be a complete portable music device. Why should you carry two music gadget thingies in your pocket if you want radio as well? That's just stupid.
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if i want to watch tv and play gameboy games, should my ipod do that as well? Radio is worthless.
 
The point is, something expensive like iPod should be a complete portable music device. Why should you carry two music gadget thingies in your pocket if you want radio as well? That's just stupid.
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It's not stupid since no MP3 player will ever have AM. Without AM, you're missing half of radio. As far as sound (music, audiobooks, podcasts, radio) is concerned, no device will ever be the complete solution. In my case, I'd rather have two devices that do their jobs extraordinarily well than one device that does radio half-assed.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
if i want to watch tv and play gameboy games, should my ipod do that as well? Radio is worthless.
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Hardware wise, radio is a freebee to add to an high end MP3 player when it comes to processing power, screen technology, and battery capacity. it's just an additional radio tuner (cheaqp). TV and games are not.

Software wise also, radio is a freebee with plenty of FREE existing content that updates daily. TV and games are not.




Anthropic said:
It's not stupid since no MP3 player will ever have AM. Without AM, you're missing half of radio. As far as sound (music, audiobooks, podcasts, radio) is concerned, no device will ever be the complete solution. In my case, I'd rather have two devices that do their jobs extraordinarily well than one device that does radio half-assed.
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Yes to AM as well. I should just say "radio" tuner.
 
As I understand it, no MP3 portables have AM now (or will in the future) because the ferrite coil antenna is comparitively large and heavy. The other problem is that AM is very cheap and easy to put in a radio today, but good AM (in terms of sensitivity and selectiveness) is very difficult to do right. That pocket Sangean is legendary as pocket AM radios go (as seen here and here) and it costs $50 (which is more than most people are going to pay for a pocket radio). At dinner, I like to go up and down the AM band listening to stations from Detroit, St. Louis, Boston, Cleveland, and Cinncinatti (I'm near Toledo).
 
Anthropic said:
As I understand it, no MP3 portables have AM now (or will in the future) because the ferrite coil antenna is comparitively large and heavy. The other problem is that AM is very cheap and easy to put in a radio today, but good AM (in terms of sensitivity and selectiveness) is very difficult to do right. That pocket Sangean is legendary as pocket AM radios go (as seen here and here) and it costs $50 (which is more than most people are going to pay for a pocket radio). At dinner, I like to go up and down the AM band listening to stations from Detroit, St. Louis, Boston, Cleveland, and Cinncinatti (I'm near Toledo).
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Well shit, then I should just be happy with FM.....
 
borghe said:
in theory you are only losing 2GB total space across the line. And arguably at that level size shouldn't be much of a big deal. if you have more than 1000 songs you probably have more than 1500 as well.

IMHO the nano is targetted perfectly. A lot more than just a 512/1000MB player, yet nowhere near as large and bulky as a hard drive unit. Not much to complain about the unit. Sure you can complain about 2GB less storage, but f you were looking at the mini or similar players, those 2GB probably aren't going to be a deciding factor.
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my wife loves the idea of the ipod, but can't stand the size. Nano is perfect, and big enough for all the stuff she'd listen to anyway.
 
Can I ask a question?

How important is it that the itunes phone syncs with itunes and supports music downloads? How many tunes do people actually have purchased from itunes store?

Nokia just released a music pack accessory for 6630, 6680 etc that has a music player application on a 256MB card. Plays mp3, aac from itunes etc. create/edit playlists on the phone. search by artist/album etc.

Only thing it doesn't do is sync with itunes. Actually it comes on an MMC card, so you can sync with wmp via usb - can a mac itunes do that (sync to a USB MSC card)?
 
Sorry iPhone. You sux.

My Sony Erricson can play mp3s, but I've never touched that side, I've never even unpacked the headphones. I can see that there is a target market, but I think this is a bit of a feeble attempt at hitting it.

Nano and iTunes get thumbs up though. Happy with my 30gig photo (and will be for some time) though.
 
Batterylife sucks on the Nano anyway

"Up to 14 hours of music playback; up to 4 hours of slideshows with music"
=/

Sony lets you have 70hours on a regular AAA battery (which means you can always have a charged spareone in your pocket, or if you run of of battery, go to the nearest store and buy a new AAA if dont get access to a poweroutlet to recharge the batterys.

btw. those ugly Sony Bean mp3-players, goes for 3hours on a 3minute charge. Thats pretty impressive.
 
mrklaw said:
Can I ask a question?

How important is it that the itunes phone syncs with itunes and supports music downloads? How many tunes do people actually have purchased from itunes store?

Nokia just released a music pack accessory for 6630, 6680 etc that has a music player application on a 256MB card. Plays mp3, aac from itunes etc. create/edit playlists on the phone. search by artist/album etc.

Only thing it doesn't do is sync with itunes. Actually it comes on an MMC card, so you can sync with wmp via usb - can a mac itunes do that (sync to a USB MSC card)?
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The original iTunes used to be really good about connecting to MP3 players/memory card -- since the iPod came out they stopped touting it as a feature.
 
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